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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #240 on: October 07, 2019, 02:59:15 pm »

Let's hope Trump is right and Turkey isn't going to walk over them.  I hope not.
Turkey is going to annihilate the Kurds. They have said so. Why else would they be invading northern Syria?
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« Reply #241 on: October 07, 2019, 03:00:33 pm »

Turkey is going to annihilate the Kurds. They have said so. Why else would they be invading northern Syria?

Maybe you should send your son to help them. 

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« Reply #242 on: October 07, 2019, 06:11:04 pm »

No, not innuendo.  Biden admitted to shutting down the investigation when he was VP. 

No, he did not.

Your continuous attempts to rewrite history to match your delusions strangely reminds me about the way Trump turns facts into something they are not. Otherwise called fake news.

Trump did not violate the constitution as he is charged as president with enforcing laws.  Only he could ask a foreign president to help in a potential criminal case.  That's his job.  Or he can ask the Attorney General or his ambassador to speak to the foreign leader.  Even Rudy.  In any case, if he gets side political benefit, well that's the way it is.  His acting under his authority as president makes it legal and constitutional.

Absolutely not.

It has been said again and again that there procedures between states to request legitimate help on such matters.

It was clearly not Trump's job and what he did is against the law as a violation of the constitution.

Again, you repeating the same misinformation again and again won't make them true.

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« Reply #243 on: October 07, 2019, 06:29:55 pm »

Your continuous attempts to rewrite history to match your delusions strangely reminds me about the way Trump turns facts into something they are not.

Interesting point.  Confining this comment solely to Trump's elected supporters in the Congress — obviously, what participants in social media forums say is irrelevant to the impeachment inquiry — it appears to me that as Trump becomes increasingly fearful regarding his future, his public statements are becoming correspondingly bizarre (admittedly, that's a high bar) and therefore, synchronously, so are those of his supporters.  I can't quite figure out if the latter are expressing their anxieties or simply mimicking his own.
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« Reply #244 on: October 07, 2019, 06:39:09 pm »

Interesting point.  Confining this comment solely to Trump's elected supporters in the Congress — obviously, what participants in social media forums say is irrelevant to the impeachment inquiry — it appears to me that as Trump becomes increasingly fearful regarding his future, his public statements are becoming correspondingly bizarre (admittedly, that's a high bar) and therefore, synchronously, so are those of his supporters.  I can't quite figure out if the latter are expressing their own anxieties or simply mimicking his own.

Well, at the end of the day, and, not saying I 100% agree here, this is all a moot point if Warrens gets on the ticket.  She would be Trump's best re-election asset, and considering how Biden is handling this, it is almost a certainty at this point. 

I would be willing to bet the next debate will destroy Biden.  I cant see his fellow front runners ignoring this and not indirectly, at the very least, attacking him. 
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« Reply #245 on: October 07, 2019, 09:56:56 pm »


 
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Well, at the end of the day, and, not saying I 100% agree here, this is all a moot point if Warrens gets on the ticket.  She would be Trump's best re-election asset, and considering how Biden is handling this, it is almost a certainty at this point. 


I would be willing to bet the next debate will destroy Biden.  I cant see his fellow front runners ignoring this and not indirectly, at the very least, attacking him. 
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Biden's Democrat opponents have plenty to attack him on.


""In December of 2013, Joe Biden flies to Beijing, China on Air Force Two. On the plane with him is his son, Hunter Biden," Schweizer stated. "Frankly, he gets criticized on the trip for going soft on Beijing. What we now know is that ten days after they returned from that trip, Hunter Biden's small investment firm announced a $1.5 billion private equity deal with the Chinese government."

"In February 2014, the Yanukovich government falls, the Russians move into Crimea, there is a crisis situation. Joe Biden becomes the point person on the Western response in Ukraine," Schweizer continued. "Literally two months after that event, Hunter Biden and Devin Archer are appointed to the board of directors of Burisma, which is a notoriously corrupt energy company."

"The problem is," he said. "Just like in China, in the case of Ukraine, he has no background that would warrant him getting this position. He has no background in energy policy, and he certainly has no background and Ukraine.""
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/04/schweizer_bidens_son_cashed_in_on_vp_being_point_man_for_obama_in_ukraine_and_china.html


If people call Trump corrupt because of his business dealings, they better have clean hands themselves if they intend to run for office.

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« Reply #246 on: October 08, 2019, 03:53:53 am »


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/04/schweizer_bidens_son_cashed_in_on_vp_being_point_man_for_obama_in_ukraine_and_china.html

If people call Trump corrupt because of his business dealings, they better have clean hands themselves if they intend to run for office.

If people quote news organisations to call people corrupt, they better have clean hands themselves if they want to be taken seriously.

https://politicalwire.com/2019/10/07/secret-far-right-site-linked-to-realclearpolitics/

More than anyone really wants to know about the Biden family:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #247 on: October 08, 2019, 10:22:15 am »

If people quote news organisations to call people corrupt, they better have clean hands themselves if they want to be taken seriously.

https://politicalwire.com/2019/10/07/secret-far-right-site-linked-to-realclearpolitics/

More than anyone really wants to know about the Biden family:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign


The liberal press really doesn;t want Biden as president.  They prefer someone more radical and left like Warren.  So they won't protect him like they did Obama.  The more Democrats go after Trump regarding the Biden-Ukraine issue, the worse it will be for Biden. Not Trump.  Pure irony.  Frankly, Biden's toast.

faberryman

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« Reply #248 on: October 08, 2019, 10:24:56 am »

The more Democrats go after Trump regarding the Biden-Ukraine issue, the worse it will be for Biden. Not Trump.  Pure irony.  Frankly, Biden's toast.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
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« Reply #249 on: October 08, 2019, 10:26:42 am »

Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
What sounds like wishful thinking?  That the press wants someone like Warren not Biden?  Or that Biden is toast?

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« Reply #250 on: October 08, 2019, 10:33:52 am »

What sounds like wishful thinking?  That the press wants someone like Warren not Biden?  Or that Biden is toast?

Why the deflection to Biden in a thread about what Trump may have done wrong? Biden isn't in office anywhere at the moment, Trump is. Even if Biden was found to be in bed with the mob and the drug cartels combined, would Trump's methods be acceptable, that's the question, isn't it? Who cares about Biden. If he's toast, he's toast, just another has-been politician, plenty of those to go round. You seem to be awfully concerned about him.

Is there anything that Trump would dobe that would meet with your disapproval, I'm just curious. Given your stated problems with those old terrible royal family ruling elites, I would have thought that you'd be a little displeased at Trump hiring only members of his family for jobs for which they don't seem obviously prepared. Should they have jobs in the administration just because they're related to the guy? And related to that, I'm surprised you're not more concerned with the unusually high turnover in senior personnel, isn't that a red flag to you? Not to mention that many top jobs remained unfilled, probably because no one with experience or knowledge wants to work for him. Doesn't this worry you? Why doesn't it?
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« Reply #251 on: October 08, 2019, 10:41:48 am »

Don't expect consistency from Alan. It is like the 40% of Republicans who deny Trump even mentioned Biden's name in the phone call, and the other 60% claiming that he did but there is nothing wrong with Trump asking Zelinsky to dig up dirt on Biden. It's tough to maintain a consistent message when Trump keeps undermining it.
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« Reply #252 on: October 08, 2019, 10:47:57 am »

Trump got cold feet this morning and ordered Ambassador to the EU Sondlund not to testify. If the Zellinksy call was "perfect", what's the problem?
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« Reply #253 on: October 08, 2019, 10:49:07 am »

Why the deflection to Biden in a thread about what Trump may have done wrong? Biden isn't in office anywhere at the moment, Trump is. Even if Biden was found to be in bed with the mob and the drug cartels combined, would Trump's methods be acceptable, that's the question, isn't it? Who cares about Biden. If he's toast, he's toast, just another has-been politician, plenty of those to go round. You seem to be awfully concerned about him.

Is there anything that Trump would be that would meet with your disapproval, I'm just curious. Given your stated problems with those old terrible royal family ruling elites, I would have thought that you'd be a little displeased at Trump hiring only members of his family for jobs for which they don't seem obviously prepared. Should they have jobs in the administration just because they're related to the guy? And related to that, I'm surprised you're not more concerned with the unusually high turnover in senior personnel, isn't that a red flag to you? Not to mention that many top jobs remained unfilled, probably because no one with experience or knowledge wants to work for him. Doesn't this worry you? Why doesn't it?
Trump does a lot of things I don't like.  But at the end of the day, when you vote, you have a choice between two people. Warren and Sanders are too liberal, practically Marxists.  Biden's toast because of his own incompetence.  Warren is also a fraud who got ahead in life using a false claim of minority status.  That's pretty despicable. So no one's hands are clean.  The country is doing pretty well under Trump.  Socialists will just screw it up worse.  So you hold your nose when you vote.

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« Reply #254 on: October 08, 2019, 10:51:28 am »

What sounds like wishful thinking?  That the press wants someone like Warren not Biden?  Or that Biden is toast?
No, that, as you stated, Biden will be worse off that Trump because of the impeachment inquiry. It's lunacy that you could believe that.
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« Reply #255 on: October 08, 2019, 10:52:24 am »

  So you hold your nose when you vote.

Of course, but you're not voting you're discussing (*) on a forum.  Your vote will still count the same if you say here that Trump is a lying fool. But you're always just tooting his horn no matter how dumb it is.

(* not really - just mouthing slogans, but you get the idea)
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« Reply #256 on: October 08, 2019, 11:38:07 am »

Trump does a lot of things I don't like.  But at the end of the day, when you vote, you have a choice between two people... The country is doing pretty well under Trump.  Socialists will just screw it up worse.  So you hold your nose when you vote.
Apparently, given your defense of Trump, you are not really holding your nose. You are cheering him on, even in the face of the most despicable behavior.
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« Reply #257 on: October 08, 2019, 11:47:47 am »

What I don;t understand is why you foreigners are so obsessed with Trump.  I mean I look at Boris Johnson, and go , "meh", seems a little weird and I wonder of he knows what he's doing.  But I don't obsess about him like my neighbors wife.  You don;t live here.  You don't pay taxes here?  You don't have to send your son off to American wars.  You don't vote here.  Just what is it that drives you to think about this guy all the time? 

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« Reply #258 on: October 08, 2019, 11:51:04 am »

...to hate him so much?

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« Reply #259 on: October 08, 2019, 11:51:14 am »

you foreigners

Let me guess - "go back where you came from".
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