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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #860 on: September 14, 2019, 01:55:49 am »

Wait till I go buy tickets  ;)

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #861 on: September 14, 2019, 06:52:10 am »

Wait till I go buy tickets  ;)

Appears(?) to claim?
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #862 on: September 14, 2019, 10:18:19 am »

Appears(?) to claim?

That cautious phrasing is just Fox News trying to be “fair & balanced”  ;)

Actually, she said:

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Ocasio-Cortez was touting her "Green New Deal" program at a NAACP forum Wednesday when she addressed critics who have called her plans "not realistic."

"What is not realistic is not responding to the crisis -- not responding with a solution on the scale of the crisis," she said. "Because what's not realistic is Miami not existing in a few years. That's not realistic."

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #863 on: September 14, 2019, 10:29:27 am »

AOC is from The Bronx.  So am I.  I grew up there.  Then I moved to Queens.  Weiner was my Congressman.  I'm now retired in New Jersey.

Never mind. :)

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #864 on: September 17, 2019, 12:29:57 am »

The future:

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #865 on: September 18, 2019, 12:11:16 pm »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/failed-climate-change-predictions

"Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions"

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The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.

An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.

Just years prior, Time magazine echoed other media outlets in suggesting that "another ice age" was imminent. "Telltale signs are everywhere — from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest," the magazine warned in 1974. The Guardian similarly warned in 1974 that "Space satellites show new Ice Age coming fast."

In 1970, The Boston Globe ran the headline, "Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century." The Washington Post, for its part, published a Columbia University scientist's claim that the world could be "as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age."

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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #866 on: September 18, 2019, 12:21:08 pm »

FOX news is for animals ...
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #867 on: September 18, 2019, 12:29:13 pm »

FOX news is for animals ...

That's a new low. We are still getting used to "deplorables." :(
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« Reply #868 on: September 18, 2019, 01:50:04 pm »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/failed-climate-change-predictions

"Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions"

Excellent demonstration why we shouldn't rely on newspaper "quotes" alone (including the biased? Thinktank's compiled climate predictions).
Sadly, but not a surprise, there are no links to the scientific reports (if any) on which these soundbites are based. Just a few clippings from articles without researchable source material are shown.
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #869 on: September 18, 2019, 03:23:08 pm »

Excellent demonstration why we shouldn't rely on newspaper "quotes" alone (including the biased? Thinktank's compiled climate predictions).
Sadly, but not a surprise, there are no links to the scientific reports (if any) on which these soundbites are based. Just a few clippings from articles without researchable source material are shown.

You can find the "scientific" reports yourself, if you really want to.
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« Reply #870 on: September 18, 2019, 05:53:29 pm »

You can find the "scientific" reports yourself, if you really want to.

Not really. For example, the quoted text in that linked article:
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An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.

... cannot be found, by Google, so the article that supposedly " detailed a U.N. environmental official warning" cannot be traced. It is unclear what report it refers to, and whether is was an accurate quote or summary, assuming the report even exists.
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #871 on: September 18, 2019, 06:29:42 pm »

Excellent demonstration why we shouldn't rely on newspaper "quotes" alone (including the biased? Thinktank's compiled climate predictions).
Sadly, but not a surprise, there are no links to the scientific reports (if any) on which these soundbites are based. Just a few clippings from articles without researchable source material are shown.


Why not?  You relied on false newspaper articles accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians.  :)

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« Reply #872 on: September 18, 2019, 06:39:23 pm »

Not really. For example, the quoted text in that linked article:
... cannot be found, by Google, so the article that supposedly " detailed a U.N. environmental official warning" cannot be traced. It is unclear what report it refers to, and whether is was an accurate quote or summary, assuming the report even exists.

Really Bart? It took me 2 minutes on Google to find it: https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0
Guess you didn't really want to find it.
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Re: How media over-represents 15 times climatosceptiks fake science
« Reply #873 on: September 18, 2019, 06:45:27 pm »

The only thing the UN is good for is not paying the summons they get for parking illegally in NYC. 

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Speaking of dangerous places to live with seas rising is this place in Alaska.  What about tsunamis? Check the first photo.  Getting back to photography, this is a great photo essay of the people and community there.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/09/photos-impacts-climate-change-kivalina-alaska/598282/

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Another interesting article - on building large energy storage:

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Hydrostor, a Canadian startup that’s storing energy by injecting compressed air into deep underground caverns

Founded in 2010, Hydrostor’s core idea isn’t a new one: First, use excess electricity to run compressors and trap the pressurized air in a container. Then, to recover the energy, run the trapped air through a turbine that generates power.
So far, the startup has built one pilot project at 1 MW scale, and has another 2 MW project coming online “within weeks”—both of which are in Ontario, Canada. It has received government funding to build a 5 MW pilot in Australia, which will be completed late in 2020.

https://qz.com/1711536/canadian-startup-hydrostor-is-storing-energy-in-compressed-air/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo

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American Jeff Bezos (Billionaire CEO of Amazon) unveils sweeping plan to tackle climate change.  Going to buy 100,000 delivery vans from American electric car company Vivian.  Will beat Paris accord by ten years.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/19/jeff-bezos-speaks-about-amazon-sustainability-in-washington-dc.html
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