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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #1360 on: January 16, 2020, 09:45:27 am »

How are we going to change the climate when people demand washers and dryers in their lives and we have billions of people who still wash clothes by hand?  Reminds me when I was a kid. I grew up in The Bronx, lunatic congresswoman AOC's territory now.  There were 2 or 3 washers in the basement of the apartment building serving 64 apartments.  I was assigned the washer and had to take the wash down and argue for my next turn with other tenants.  Then after doing all the washes bringing them up to the roof to hang them out to dry with clothespins on a clothesline because it was cheaper than using the drier. I guess we used the drier in the winter or if it rained. I don;t recall now.   At least I got some sun when it was out. 

Having these things in my home now are so convenient.  They don't always clean things the way I like, but who's complaining too much?  We really are spoiled. 

OK who's the first here volunteering to give up their washer and dryer to save the earth?

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« Reply #1361 on: January 16, 2020, 10:17:38 am »

How are we going to change the climate when people demand washers and dryers in their lives and we have billions of people who still wash clothes by hand?  Reminds me when I was a kid. I grew up in The Bronx, lunatic congresswoman AOC's territory now.  There were 2 or 3 washers in the basement of the apartment building serving 64 apartments.  I was assigned the washer and had to take the wash down and argue for my next turn with other tenants.  Then after doing all the washes bringing them up to the roof to hang them out to dry with clothespins on a clothesline because it was cheaper than using the drier. I guess we used the drier in the winter or if it rained. I don;t recall now.   At least I got some sun when it was out. 

Having these things in my home now are so convenient.  They don't always clean things the way I like, but who's complaining too much?  We really are spoiled. 

OK who's the first here volunteering to give up their washer and dryer to save the earth?

The technology varied between Europe and America. When I was kid in the then communist country, our low-rise apartment building didn't have any elevators, but we had our own washer in the bathroom, which doubled as my dark room. As far as I remember, we didn't own a dryer. I am doing my bit in saving the earth. Although I own both washer and dryer, I don't use the dryer at all. In the summer, I string cloth lines in my backyard and in the winter in the basement. Most Cubans still hang out their laundry on the cloth lines.

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« Reply #1362 on: January 16, 2020, 10:30:15 am »

The technology varied between Europe and America. When I was kid in the then communist country, our low-rise apartment building didn't have any elevators, but we had our own washer in the bathroom, which doubled as my dark room. As far as I remember, we didn't own a dryer. I am doing my bit in saving the earth. Although I own both washer and dryer, I don't use the dryer at all. In the summer, I string cloth lines in my backyard and in the winter in the basement. Most Cubans still hang out their laundry on the cloth lines.
I too am doing my part to save the earth as I rarely do either the washing or drying.  My wife is the polluter, not me.  :)

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« Reply #1363 on: January 16, 2020, 10:31:53 am »

Most women like and use their dryers.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #1364 on: January 16, 2020, 10:54:12 am »

... Most Cubans still hang out their laundry on the cloth lines.

Out of necessity.

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« Reply #1365 on: January 16, 2020, 12:23:57 pm »

I always thought it was some secret spy signal. Although the arrangement in your third picture could have a different meaning.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #1366 on: January 16, 2020, 12:42:13 pm »

Jeff Bezos says that anyone who denies reality of climate change is ‘not being reasonable’.

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Denying climate change is dangerous and unreasonable in the year 2020, according to billionaire Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.
Speaking at Amazon’s Smbhav summit for small and medium-sized enterprises in New Delhi, India, Bezos described climate change as a big problem and warned that Earth is “a finite planet.”
“You can go back 10 years or 20 years and there were people who just did not acknowledge that climate change is real,” he said. “Anybody today who is not acknowledging that climate change is real — that we humans are affecting this planet in a very significant and dangerous way — those people are not being reasonable.”

“We have sent robotic probes to every planet in the solar system — this is the good one,” he said. “There are no other good planets in this solar system. We have to take care of this one.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/15/jeff-bezos-anyone-who-denies-climate-change-is-not-being-reasonable.html

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« Reply #1367 on: January 16, 2020, 01:03:39 pm »

How many times we need to go over that tired trope that “some” are denying climate change!? Nobody is doing that, as the climate has been changing since the dawn of time.
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« Reply #1369 on: January 16, 2020, 07:25:25 pm »

So much for Alan's assertion that things will get better as the climate heats up. 

Tell that to the estimated million common murres who died recently as a result of warming seas in the North Pacific.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51140869
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« Reply #1370 on: January 16, 2020, 08:03:44 pm »

So much for Alan's assertion that things will get better as the climate heats up. 

Tell that to the estimated million common murres who died recently as a result of warming seas in the North Pacific.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51140869

Not counting one billion dead animals in Australia fires due to a combination of very high temperatures and a record drought.

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Re: Extreme weather
« Reply #1371 on: January 16, 2020, 09:29:31 pm »

..l Tell that to the estimated million common murres...

Who gives a #$&* about murres!?

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« Reply #1372 on: January 16, 2020, 09:43:46 pm »

So how do you like your "low flush" toilet, Robert? Are you convinced that since you save water every time you flush it,  flushing it three times to clear it saves a lot of water?

What ARE you talking about?

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« Reply #1373 on: January 16, 2020, 09:50:13 pm »

People used to make fun of "third world" dictators saying stupid shit. Now Trump makes some comments about laundry machines and all the fellow travellers jump on the bandwagon. All of a sudden dish and laundry machines don't work anymore. You guys don't need to feel that you have to agree with everything that comes out of that guy's mouth. No one will doubt your credentials, you know. No one will see it as treason, you can relax.

Tribal identification is a powerful force.
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« Reply #1374 on: January 16, 2020, 09:56:47 pm »

People used to make fun of "third world" dictators saying stupid shit. Now Trump makes some comments about laundry machines and all the fellow travellers jump on the bandwagon. All of a sudden dish and laundry machines don't work anymore. You guys don't need to feel that you have to agree with everything that comes out of that guy's mouth. No one will doubt your credentials, you know. No one will see it as treason, you can relax.

Tribal identification is a powerful force.

WTH are you talking about? I posted an article that is from 10 years ago that identified the problem with dishwashers. Something I personally experienced. Long before Trump.

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« Reply #1375 on: January 16, 2020, 10:50:44 pm »

Not counting one billion dead animals in Australia fires due to a combination of very high temperatures and a record drought.

No kidding. I just sent some money to those who are looking after some of the survivors.

I can't help it.  It's the socialist in me.
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« Reply #1376 on: January 16, 2020, 11:24:34 pm »

The first google find, from a loonie left-friendly source, NPR. This is an older article, but I learned about it from a recent one (can't find it right now) that had an update: that the replacement chemical is even worse for the environment.

https://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132072122/it-s-not-your-fault-your-dishes-are-still-dirty

"Dishes Still Dirty? Blame Phosphate-Free Detergent"

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Seventeen states banned phosphates from dishwasher detergents because the chemical compounds also pollute lakes, bays and streams. They create algae blooms and starve fish of oxygen.

But dirty and damaged dishes are turning many people into skeptics, including Wright.

"I'm angry at the people who decided that phosphate was growing algae. I'm not sure that I believe that," Wright adds.

This is Trumper “logic” in a nutshell - the exact emotional level he plays to.  :-[
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« Reply #1377 on: January 17, 2020, 10:47:59 am »

Listen, guys. If your toilet isn't flushing properly, have it repaired or buy a better one. Stop blaming Obama. You sound like crazy people, seriously.
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« Reply #1378 on: January 17, 2020, 11:19:41 am »

Listen, guys. If your toilet isn't flushing properly, have it repaired or buy a better one. Stop blaming Obama. You sound like crazy people, seriously.

We recently moved.  I replaced all three toilets with high quality Kohlers.  They all still take multi flushes quite often.  The low water rules suck.  Dont get me started on washing machines....
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« Reply #1379 on: January 17, 2020, 11:29:14 am »

But you're saving water every time you flush, Craig. So it's okay.
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