The American Constitution

[JoeKitchen]

You wouldn't stand a chance, unless you're saying that the US military suck at their expertise.

Meanwhile, in the last 7 days: 200 people killed by gun violence, 32 injured. You don't need a tyrannical army to kill you, you're doing fine yourselves ...

Many argued that in 1776.  The rag tag militia of farmers, smiths, merchants, etc. would not be able to take down the more powerful military in the world, Great Britain. 

FYI, I don't own any of these guns but I support gun ownership for this very reason.  There is a cost, but so is there with allowing cars on the road. 

[LesPalenik]

In 1776, the guns of the farmers and smiths were not less lethal than the guns of British military.
Today, the rag tag militia equipped with semi-automatic rifles wouldn't be a match for laser guided rockets, drones, and blockbuster bombs.     

[Alan Klein]

Exactly what I was thinking Joe.  But actually, the circumstances would be different. The British army and navy were not American as would be the situation in America now should a tyrant ignore our constitution.  The American army and airforce would be facing other Americans. Would they drop bombs from B52's onto American cities?  Americans in the services as do the president and all government officials swear an oath to defend the constitution, not a leader.  We're not the Wehrmacht pledging allegiance to Der Fuhrer.  Or to a king.    Many military  generals and admirals who command their own armies and divisions would fight against the tyrant.  They would be supported by an armed citizenry with AR15's and other weapons who would join them in much the same way as occurred during our Civil War.  Remember, each state is sovereign.  Each state has its own forces, guards and reserves,  that are made up of residents of each state.  That too was the reason for the 2nd Amendment.  While state reserve and guards are used by the president during war against foreigners, they actually report to the governor of each state.  If a president became a tyrant, many states led by the governors of those state supported by their own armed guards and reserves would fight the US federal army that reports to the president that haven't deserted the president which many would do. 

As an aside, the Vietnamese beat us, the North Koreans fought us to a standstill, and we're still in  Afghanistan.  So having superior arms does not guarantee a win as Joe reminded us about our our citizen war against King George III.    Additionally, as in 1776, outside forces from France especially aided our effort.  They might support our citizens again.  So might the Brits.

[Alan Klein]

In 1776, the guns of the farmers and smiths were not less lethal than the guns of British military.
Today, the rag tag militia equipped with semi-automatic rifles wouldn't be a match for laser guided rockets, drones, and blockbuster bombs.     

Les read my last post.  It wouldn't just be a citizen army.

Additionally, you're proposing giving up instead of fighting for freedom.  That's not the America I know.  You see that's why the left wants to disarm the citizenry.  Because they know they couldn't ignore our constitution without facing a fight.  The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to defend the 1st amendment giving us all our freedoms.   All tyrants like we have on the left ("I've come to take you AR15's" - Beto O'Rourke) want to do exactly that.  Discerning Americans understand that.  That's why they are so emphatic about not accepting any laws the would confiscate or limit their right to bear arms.  The rest of the people are just sheep who buy into the fig leaf red herring reason that weapons kill people.    They will be the first people supporting the tyrant and then the first people complaining when that tyrant puts them in jail and takes away their freedoms.  Just like Cuba and Venezuela.

[Alan Klein]

Les, Even the Canadians might support the American citizens. 

[LesPalenik]

Les, Even the Canadians might support the American citizens. 

I don't know about it. In the recent years, there were several cases of peace-loving Canadians shot in USA.

You’re more likely to be shot to death in the United States than you are to die in a car accident in Canada.

https://globalnews.ca/news/2378037/gun-violence-by-the-numbers-how-america-canada-and-the-world-compare/

[Alan Klein]

I don't know about it. In the recent years, there were several cases of peace-loving Canadians shot in USA.

https://globalnews.ca/news/2378037/gun-violence-by-the-numbers-how-america-canada-and-the-world-compare/

A lot of people get shot during a road rage argument if they didn't get killed from the accident in the first place. Freedom is dangerous.  I never said it wasn't. 

[Alan Klein]

Here's a shot of a New York Air National Guard (ANG)  F16 fighter jet.  The wing is switching over to killer drones.  Note the Syracuse and NY on the tail.  (174 FW is the 174th Fighter Wing out of Syracuse, New York.) ANG's report to the Governor or can be federalized depending.  In a constitutional crisis, there's no counting on what might happen in any one state or ANG wing.  So figuring the tyrant-president will control them is not necessarily in the cards.  They could just as well be supporting an armed citizenry. Ditto with the Army National Guards in each State.  Of course, the anti-gun people will push the red herring that citizens having guns is a waste of time against a tyrant with the army behind him.  Of course, most ignorant Americans don't know any better they are so brainwashed by the left media and left politicians.  I don't expect foreigners to understand these points.  But American citizens should. 

[Robert Roaldi]

Maybe if you had a better class of politicians you wouldn't have to worry about tyranny so much. Just sayin'. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Maybe if you had a better class of politicians...

Who does?

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Ladies (if any) and gentlemen, the state of (left) journalism in America today: 

https://apple.news/AT9ktYmCUTey0Ys_-nEmhNg

[Alan Klein]

Maybe if you had a better class of politicians you wouldn't have to worry about tyranny so much. Just sayin'. 

The founders of America knew people are the problem. That's why the Constitution limits power of so much of the government and splits it up into different branches where one has to approve the other before things get done. That lessens the chance that some tyrant can take over. Also they put the Second Amendment in there because that's the final protection in case everything else fails in the Constitution. It's been over 200 years of orderly presidential transition.   So far so good. 

[Alan Klein]

Ladies (if any) and gentlemen, the state of (left) journalism in America today: 

https://apple.news/AT9ktYmCUTey0Ys_-nEmhNg

The Democrat Judiciary Committee should add this pancake theft to their list of Investigations regarding impeaching President Trump.  Now he's gone over the line.

[RSL]

Maybe if you had a better class of politicians you wouldn't have to worry about tyranny so much. Just sayin'. 

  This from a guy with a prime minister named Justin Trudeau!!!??? 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... a prime minister named Justin Trudeau!!!??? 

[Alan Klein]

Even the left calls "fake news" about the NY Times smear article against Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.  The "newspaper of record" biases the news again.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scarborough-cant-believe-the-ny-times-ran-salacious-brett-kavanaugh-essay-with-glaring-omission/

[Robert Roaldi]

I don't know what half of these posts mean anymore and have in fact stop reading most of them, but do you guys realize how crazy it sounds to justify the private ownership of AR-15s so you can be ready for the fight against your tyrannical government?

The loonie left lost its mind a long time ago, but replacing it with that bizarre version of insanity is not a step in the right direction, imo. In any case, I don't actually believe most of it, it's probably mostly just online hyperbole because people don't seem to have enough to do.

If you want to hunt or target shoot or keep a varmint rifle if you live in the country, no problem, everyone understands that. But if you resort to quasi-religious gun-worship rantings, I just shake my head and turn off the computer. What is keeping your families safe is the rule of law and the fact that the vast majority of people are decent. The rest of this foam at the mouth nonsense come from watching way too many Hollywood movies.

[Robert Roaldi]

This from a guy with a prime minister named Justin Trudeau!!!??? 

This one went over my head. It's just a name. But don't bother to try and explain it, I don't really care.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... do you guys realize how crazy it sounds to justify the private ownership of AR-15s...

We question the need to justify it.

...What is keeping your families safe is the rule of law and the fact that the vast majority of people are decent...

Are you in the contest for the silliest post of the year?

How decent people knock on your door in the morning:

[Alan Klein]

I don't know what half of these posts mean anymore and have in fact stop reading most of them, but do you guys realize how crazy it sounds to justify the private ownership of AR-15s so you can be ready for the fight against your tyrannical government?

The loonie left lost its mind a long time ago, but replacing it with that bizarre version of insanity is not a step in the right direction, imo. In any case, I don't actually believe most of it, it's probably mostly just online hyperbole because people don't seem to have enough to do.

If you want to hunt or target shoot or keep a varmint rifle if you live in the country, no problem, everyone understands that. But if you resort to quasi-religious gun-worship rantings, I just shake my head and turn off the computer. What is keeping your families safe is the rule of law and the fact that the vast majority of people are decent. The rest of this foam at the mouth nonsense come from watching way too many Hollywood movies.

The left wants to get rid of all private guns.  Ask the Venezuelans if that's a good idea.