Topic: New Mac Pro? (Read 17361 times)

Chris L · « **Reply #120 on:** June 20, 2019, 05:31:40 pm »

Hi I hope this isn't considered off topic but I am wondering which Mac Pro configuration or iMac Pro you guys would recommend for a working pro with the following needs:

Photographer using Capture One Pro and Photoshop for Canon and Fuji GFX100 ( soon ) cameras
Videographer using FCPx, Resolve, and shooting with Ursa Mini 4.6K, and using Pro res and Braw files

I already have an NEC Multisync PA 241w monitor that is about 10 years old but seems fine FYI, I already have a 2010 Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 32 GB ram ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB and its slow with video of course, and kinda slow with Photos.

Thanks in advance

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #121 on:** October 05, 2019, 08:55:28 pm »

Any update about the new Mac Pro availability?

It was announced nearly 4 months ago and still no visibility.

Is that another Trump casualty?

Cheers,
Bernard

faberryman · « **Reply #122 on:** October 05, 2019, 09:38:29 pm »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 05, 2019, 08:55:28 pm

Any update about the new Mac Pro availability? It was announced nearly 4 months ago and still no visibility. Is that another Trump casualty?

Apple moved production of the Mac Pro from China to Texas. Apple applied for a waiver from the 25% tariffs on some of the parts, but they were denied. The price will inevitably go up.

stevenfr · « **Reply #123 on:** October 05, 2019, 10:45:41 pm »

My guess would be Apple announces availability during their end of October event. With shipping at the end of the year.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #124 on:** October 06, 2019, 10:04:59 pm »

Quote from: stevenfr on October 05, 2019, 10:45:41 pm

My guess would be Apple announces availability during their end of October event. With shipping at the end of the year.

Wouldn't that be a 3 months delay relative to their June commitment?

Cheers,
Bernard

stevenfr · « **Reply #125 on:** October 06, 2019, 10:39:45 pm »

As long as it shows up at some point soon. I am debating if I jump in early and get one or wait for the bugs if any to be fixed. I usually don’t like to be first in on a new computer and new OS.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #126 on:** October 06, 2019, 10:53:37 pm »

Quote from: stevenfr on October 06, 2019, 10:39:45 pm

As long as it shows up at some point soon. I am debating if I jump in early and get one or wait for the bugs if any to be fixed. I usually don’t like to be first in on a new computer and new OS.

Indeed, I usually wait at least 6 months until I upgrade to a new release of Mac OS.

Upgrading to 10.14 basically made my MAc Pro 2013 so unstable that I had to remove by OWC 2TB SSD and revert back to the original Apple 1TB one... Huge cost of productivity...

Cheers,
Bernard

stevenfr · « **Reply #127 on:** October 07, 2019, 12:18:58 am »

It might be six months after the OS release, for a new Mac Pro. 😀

mcbroomf · « **Reply #128 on:** October 31, 2019, 03:48:07 am »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier on October 05, 2019, 08:55:28 pm

Any update about the new Mac Pro availability?

It was announced nearly 4 months ago and still no visibility.

Is that another Trump casualty?

Cheers,
Bernard

Perhaps soon now ... (emphasis on perhaps)
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/30/20940337/apple-mac-pro-fcc-launch-release-date

Christopher · « **Reply #129 on:** October 31, 2019, 08:57:46 am »

I'm just glad I am not fixed on the expensive mac stuff. The prices are just crazy.

kers · « **Reply #130 on:** October 31, 2019, 10:37:22 am »

Quote from: Christopher on October 31, 2019, 08:57:46 am

I'm just glad I am not fixed on the expensive mac stuff. The prices are just crazy.

I agree - this macPro might be worth the price but only for a very selected group of people.
It is like the nikon 0.95 lens , a 8000€ statement of technical skill.

JaapD · « **Reply #131 on:** October 31, 2019, 02:58:04 pm »

Well, I also see some buyers skills around the corner

Regards,
Jaap.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #132 on:** November 01, 2019, 05:51:45 pm »

Let’s see. Apple is really taking their time on this one...

I guess it means it will be absolutely flawless.

Cheers,
Bernard

kers · « **Reply #133 on:** November 02, 2019, 01:20:32 pm »

Model 2006-2012
Model 2013
....
....
Model 2019(or 2020)

But every year new phones and iPads....

Christopher · « **Reply #134 on:** November 02, 2019, 01:45:36 pm »

Model 2020, not faster than my current workstation (2018) and 3 times the cost.......

Quote from: kers on November 02, 2019, 01:20:32 pm

Model 2006-2012
Model 2013
....
....
Model 2019(or 2020)

But every year new phones and iPads....

kers · « **Reply #135 on:** November 02, 2019, 07:56:08 pm »

Quote from: Christopher on November 02, 2019, 01:45:36 pm

Model 2020, not faster than my current workstation (2018) and 3 times the cost.......

Model 2020 get interesting if you do high end video AND have the assignments to pay for it.
Then of course you have to buy the special modules etc, so you spend about 15.000+
At 8000 you better buy an even faster iMac; or a Windows container.
That will also leaves you 3000-5000 € to spend on... photography?

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #136 on:** November 04, 2019, 10:23:02 pm »

Quote from: petermfiore on November 02, 2019, 08:19:29 am

Exactly.......how could it not be so?

There is a long list of possible issues... all experienced with Apple models these past years

- instability in some configurations (for example with some USB or TB3 peripherals connected,...)
- thermal issues resulting in lower performance in some configurations
- random crashes
- ...

Cheers,
Bernard

smthopr · « **Reply #137 on:** November 05, 2019, 12:24:47 pm »

I'm thinking that for 99% of still photographers, the new Mac Pro will be much more expensive than useful. I can work with Photoshop on my 2013 MBP, and while with some very large files, it can slow down, my Windows workstation is not much faster for most photographs. This is a dual processor HP Z820 with 128gb RAM and an Nvidia Titan X GPU with 11gb Vram.

The one advantage of my Windows workstation (I use it for motion picture color correction) is that is has 128Gb of RAM. And that means with very large files, it does not need to use a disk cache which speeds work with large files. To my surprise though, the workstation also takes a long time to save large files, even to high speed media or even the RAID.

If you're doing video, and desire a Mac, then I can see investing in the new Mac Pro. Maybe also if you're working with very large files, such as panoramas and stitching. Or, maybe just scrolling through hundreds of images at a time in LightRoom. For the average landscape photographer... Maybe a nice iMac is a much better buy.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #138 on:** November 05, 2019, 10:32:05 pm »

The new Pro is probably indeed overkill for a majority of photographers.

On the other hand, a fast amd GPU is a god sent for C1 Pro users though.

On my 6 years old mac pro with 2 GPU it’s 4-5 times faster than LR to export jpg or tiff files.

The problem is Photoshop, at least on the CS6 version I am using, it’s incredibly slow at saving large files. Tens of times slower than theoretical (and measured by benchmark tools) write speed of disk system.

Cheers,
Bernard

kers · « **Reply #139 on:** November 06, 2019, 06:25:48 am »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier on November 05, 2019, 10:32:05 pm

The problem is Photoshop, at least on the CS6 version I am using, it’s incredibly slow at saving large files. Tens of times slower than theoretical (and measured by benchmark tools) write speed of disk system.

Cheers,
Bernard

Do you save your files without compression?
I do that and the write speed differs from 100-1500mb/sec. The disk speed itself is 2500...
Compression makes saving much slower.

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