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New York City last week
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:53:50 pm »

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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2019, 07:56:03 pm »

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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 08:17:40 pm »

Ah, New York... colorful in any sense of the word, full of contrasts. And those garbage bags... Nice vignettes, Eric.

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2019, 10:42:47 pm »

Eric,
Your first image seems alarming. Do buildings in New York lean so much, even more than the Leaning Tower of Pisa?  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2019, 11:39:52 pm »

It's a nice collection.  Gives me a feel for what's there. :)

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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 12:12:42 am »

Eric,
Your first image seems alarming. Do buildings in New York lean so much, even more than the Leaning Tower of Pisa?  ;)
Ray,
In the Wall Street area, where the streets are narrow and the buildings are tall, a "straight" photo will always show that "lean."
I did actually partially correct the distortion in LightRoom, but wanted to keep the sense of the buildings looming over you.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2019, 12:13:35 am »

Thanks, guys.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 08:09:08 am »

Eric, you're doing it on purpose; a fiendish ploy to make me want to escape my rural chains yet more strongly!

I already have a PLAN worked out for the day I manage that feat, but I noticed this morning that the Euromillions lottery has just been won by one mothereffer who wasn't I! That means waiting until Saturday morning, at the earliest!

But hey, I've waited this long, so what's another decade or two? In this world or the next, that olde D700 (it's coming with me) will live to fight a better battle.

:-)

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 09:07:21 am »

That's the spirit, Rob. As Churchill said: "Never give up." I'll be holding my breath until you report victory on Saturday morning.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 10:22:18 am »

That's the spirit, Rob. As Churchill said: "Never give up." I'll be holding my breath until you report victory on Saturday morning.


Waking up will be victory enough!

I'm off to see the doc tomorrow in another attempt to sort out my cataracts problems, but with this political, typically English mess pending (the Scots and Irish showed more street smarts on this occasion; what the Welsh did, GOK) they may not want to get involved with somebody who may be here today, gone in April. From their jurisdiction, I mean!

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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 11:22:28 am »

Hey Rob,

Why don't you just take out a huge loan and buy up a million or so Euromillions tickets.
Maybe one of them will win.

Eric
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 01:40:49 pm »

... I did actually partially correct the distortion in LightRoom, but wanted to keep the sense of the buildings looming over you.

Eric, my rule in correcting verticals, even if I want to retain some degree of convergence, is to keep the line in the very middle of the (cropped) image straight. Anything else appears unnatural to the eye. In your case, you are off by approximately 1.5 degrees. The red line indicates what needs to be straight.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 06:27:48 pm »

Eric, my rule in correcting verticals, even if I want to retain some degree of convergence, is to keep the line in the very middle of the (cropped) image straight. Anything else appears unnatural to the eye. In your case, you are off by approximately 1.5 degrees. The red line indicates what needs to be straight.

Now that's just nitpicking, Slobodan, but I'm sure you realize that, and were just making a joke.  ;D

Leaning buildings do not look natural. The solution is to use a wider lens than is required to capture the parts of the scene that you preconceived, so that you don't need to crop the essential parts of the scene that were envisaged, when later using the distort and perspective tools in Photoshop.
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 07:57:43 pm »

Hey, Slobodan,
I'll be happy to hire you to process all my photos for me. I think my budget will let me offer you something like 25 cents per hour.
Interested?   ;)
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 08:52:32 pm »

Eric,
Have you considered the traumatic effect on children that such severely leaning buildings might have? "Mommy, why is that building in New York leaning so much? I don't ever want to go to New York. I might get killed when a building falls over."

Answer: "Don't worry dear boy. The buildings in New York don't really lean. It just looks that way in the photo because the photographer did not do a good job".  ;D
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2019, 09:12:06 pm »

... The buildings in New York don't really lean. It just looks that way in the photo because the photographer did not do a good job".[/i]  ;D

Ray, have you actually been in NY? I can understand how from a down-under perspective, where a two-story building is considered a skyscraper, this might look strange, but if you ever find yourself in a big city, you would realize that, when you lift your head, buildings do converge. It is called perspective, you know. Discovered already in the Renaissance.

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 01:41:17 am »

Ray, have you actually been in NY? I can understand how from a down-under perspective, where a two-story building is considered a skyscraper, this might look strange, but if you ever find yourself in a big city, you would realize that, when you lift your head, buildings do converge. It is called perspective, you know. Discovered already in the Renaissance.

I've never been to New York, but of course I have been to many cities with tall skyscrapers and I get no sense of buildings leaning. This is because my mind automatically makes adjustments from the numerous perspectives I get with my 3-dimensional gaze.

However, a single, 2-dimensional perspective from a camera, produces a different effect which has to be adjusted if it is to look natural.

Sounds to me if a recreation of the Leaning Tower of Pisa were placed in New York, you wouldn't notice that it was leaning. Right?  ;D
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2019, 07:17:25 am »

I've never been to New York, but of course I have been to many cities with tall skyscrapers and I get no sense of buildings leaning. This is because my mind automatically makes adjustments from the numerous perspectives I get with my 3-dimensional gaze.

However, a single, 2-dimensional perspective from a camera, produces a different effect which has to be adjusted if it is to look natural.


Sort of.  On the other hand, even with a perspective-correcting tilt/shift lens, you get an "unnatural" look to some extent because the straight on POV doesn't always reconcile with the "below the median" positioning.  (Am I making sense?)

The other thing I find is that many images do require at least a very (very) slight "leaning in"perspective to actually look natural.
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2019, 01:26:44 pm »

OK, Slobodan and Ray,
Here are two adjusted versions. First corrects the tilt by 1.5 degrees, and the second is LR's version of what it might have looked like using a view camera.
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Re: New York City last week
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 01:32:45 pm »

And here's one more, tilted to roughly the same amount as the tower in Pisa.
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