The Changing Landscape

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

No, no! No locking, please!...

It must be a coincidence that it is always liberals who clamor for Soviet measures

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

It must be a coincidence that it is always liberals who clamor for Soviet measures

Gee whiz! And I always thought I was a liberal. I wasn't aware of my Soviet connections.   

[LesPalenik]

It's an oxymoron. Any liberals who get a taste of Soviet measures or connections stop being liberal.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...And I always thought I was a liberal.

It’s ok, Eric, nobody is perfect 

[Rob C]

I always thought myself a realist, until I decided to become a pro photographer, of course, at which point I threw up my own hands and declared myself to be in those of God.

I guess He knew what I was doing! :-)

Trouble with political cant is that it prevents the acceptance of another party's beliefs when those are, indeed, good for the general population.

I have never voted "left" but admire the thinking behind the Brit National Health Service, if only because I know how expensive and, as a direct result, how many aspects of keeping alive are beyond the average Joe. Your life should not depend on your ability to turn a trick in bed or in business.

Having always voted "right" (when I could vote!) does not blind me to the folly of those who still live in fantasies of the Britain of Queen Victoria's day today.

You'd imagine that a coalition govt. would provide the answer, but of course it can't: each bit strives to become top cat...

Sometimes, were I allowed to drink again, I'd open another bottle of Gordon's and bid this crazy world good night for another 24 hours.

Instead, I get pissed off at myself and most things else.

:-)

[Alan Goldhammer]

It must be a coincidence that it is always liberals who clamor for Soviet measures

This is the comment of the third grader on a school playground.

[Jeremy Roussak]

It must be a coincidence that it is always liberals who clamor for Soviet measures

This is the comment of the third grader on a school playground.

Unlike yours? Accusations of childishness are seldom cogent.

Jeremy

[Alan Goldhammer]

This is the comment of the third grader on a school playground.


Unlike yours? Accusations of childishness are seldom cogent.

Jeremy

Finally we here from the Administrator!!!  Why don't you do the right thing and lock this thing down; it's gone way off the tracks.  If it takes a childish comment to accomplish this so be it.  You are supposed to keep track of what goes on and I see no signs that you are doing this.  If you accept a job then just do it.  Certain posters just try to troll people and in this they are too often successful.  I shall leave this conversation now as it's just pointless to the point of being laughable.

[Kevin Gallagher]

" I shall leave this conversation now as it's just pointless to the point of being laughable."

 Hope that's a promise you keep!

[vjbelle]

Ever so often I read these longer threads...... always a good read.  This one is no exception.  All of the usual suspects and lots of BS slinging.  Maybe Josh can infuse a calming Zen kind of comment or so.......

Victor

[josh.reichmann]

Ever so often I read these longer threads...... always a good read.  This one is no exception.  All of the usual suspects and lots of BS slinging.  Maybe Josh can infuse a calming Zen kind of comment or so.......

Victor

Sure :
Be as careful as you can. Our minds are funny. Sometimes we are skeptical of things that are really worthwhile and completely accepting of things that we should avoid. Try to avoid extremes and follow the middle way, checking with wisdom wherever you go.
 Lama Zopa Rinpoche

[Rob C]

Sure :
Be as careful as you can. Our minds are funny. Sometimes we are skeptical of things that are really worthwhile and completely accepting of things that we should avoid. Try to avoid extremes and follow the middle way, checking with wisdom wherever you go.
 Lama Zopa Rinpoche

Now that's cool moderation! Like it.

Rob

[vjbelle]

 

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Now that's cool moderation! Like it.

Rob

+1.

[James Clark]

Now that's cool moderation! Like it.

Rob

Agreed.  Particularly considering that Josh himself has taken far more abuse in this thread that any of the complainers.

[Jeremy Roussak]

Finally we here from the Administrator!!!  Why don't you do the right thing and lock this thing down; it's gone way off the tracks.  If it takes a childish comment to accomplish this so be it.  You are supposed to keep track of what goes on and I see no signs that you are doing this.  If you accept a job then just do it.  Certain posters just try to troll people and in this they are too often successful.  I shall leave this conversation now as it's just pointless to the point of being laughable.

Your repeated whining at me because my approach to moderating a group differs from your own failed attempt is both tiresome and futile. As I have made clear elsewhere in this forum, I regard drift of a topic away from its original premise as a potentially Good Thing, not something to be discouraged.

I will certainly not lock a thread because of an infantile comment from a participant; the solution to degradation of debate in such a fashion is to remove the child, not to close the debate. As you profess to have removed yourself, the job is done (although I expect you'll return, as usual).

Jeremy

[Krug]

In response to Jeremy's and Josh's comments above I withdraw my support for locking the thread with a mild sense of shame - you are right gentle moderating and patience are far better - I really want to avoid sovietization and remain merely a mildly conservative liberal.

[RogTallbloke]

Sure :
Be as careful as you can. Our minds are funny. Sometimes we are skeptical of things that are really worthwhile and completely accepting of things that we should avoid. Try to avoid extremes and follow the middle way, checking with wisdom wherever you go.
 Lama Zopa Rinpoche

Wisdom is the domain of the Wis, which is extinct. ~Frank Zappa~ 

[DaveL]

I'm so grateful I found this site so long ago.
I considered Michael to be a mentor, though we hadn't met.
His advice here helped me grow as a photographer.
His reviews and recommendations guided me as I spent money on equipment. I bought several cameras that I wouldn't have considered otherwise.

So this site changed my photo life, improving the quality of my work and enjoyment.

edit: others have said this so much better than I. 

[BernardLanguillier]

Busy day, can someone write a quick summary of the conversation so far?

Cheers,
Bernard