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The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« on: December 06, 2018, 11:36:49 AM »

Magnum has a course on street photography. I wonder what Russ would say about it. I find it amusing that the very first photograph when you land on the site would not fit Russ' definition.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to include a link:

https://learn.magnumphotos.com/?utm_source=Magnum%20Photos&utm_campaign=1dc13e24f0-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_12_05_03_06_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8b268cbf2c-1dc13e24f0-4269213&mc_cid=1dc13e24f0&mc_eid=a183d9d9ca


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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 12:18:42 PM »

I find it amusing that the very first photograph when you land on the site would not fit Russ' definition.
Amusing but not surprising. And only amusing until Russ starts pontificating. Then just tiresome.

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 12:19:28 PM »

Magnum has a course on street photography. I wonder what Russ would say about it. I find it amusing that the very first photograph when you land on the site would not fit Russ' definition.

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There is not one definition of “street photography”: the word ‘street’ is a euphemism, standing essentially in opposition to the studio that preceded it, and ultimately to any kind of restrictive frame – it is a photography that is free of rules

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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 12:34:14 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 12:48:07 PM »

Really funny. As it happens I think pigeons are as overused as an old ABBA album. I have a list of stuff I hate in “street” photography. Pigeons are very high up.
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The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 12:59:33 PM »

Source/link?

The same website your are linking to.

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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 01:26:03 PM »

Yes, thanks, kind of hidden inside different menus.

Another relevant quote:

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As Carolyn Drake suggests: “Every photographer should define what ‘the street’ means to them”.

And this (emphasis mine):

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If Magnum photographers tend to focus on human nature and the human condition, some, like Ernst Haas, found street beauty in graphic elements alone: a torn poster, iron work in the pavement. Animals also make for very rich and lively subjects: while Elliott Erwitt is the most famous of the “street animal photographers”, Richard Kalvar’s nonchalant dog became one of his best-known images, and Inge Morath’s “Llama in Times Square” is one of the most popular photographs in Magnum’s archives.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2018, 01:27:36 PM »

Seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable and fluid interpretation by Magnum.

I dislike tight, limiting interpretations of genre in much the same way I dislike tight, limiting briefs - either those dictated by clients or those sold by Marks & Spencer.

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2018, 01:27:47 PM »

This really puts the cat amongst the pigeons.
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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2018, 01:49:02 PM »

All forms of Art need to evolve...otherwise they become irrelevant and die.


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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2018, 02:03:01 PM »

It’s a bit what I try to explain since day one I’m on Lula.

By the way, the 99$ is well spent. Very interesting videos and booklets.

I can encourage taking the course. Men could learn something about evolution in photography.
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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2018, 03:02:27 PM »

Amusing but not surprising. And only amusing until Russ starts pontificating. Then just tiresome.

Tell me what you think my "definition" is, Fab.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2018, 04:47:06 PM »

Tell me what you think my "definition" is, Fab.
You said you don't have a defintion.

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There IS no definition in words, any more than there's a definition for landscape in words. It's what you make of it.

The only criteria you have articulated is that the image be unposed and that it tell a story. Then there is a lot of hand waving.

https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 05:25:37 PM »

You said you don't have a defintion.

The only criteria you have articulated is that the image be unposed and that it tell a story. Then there is a lot of hand waving.

https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/


One man's hand waving is another man's semaphore.

I can't speak Greek, but I'm perfectly sure that the Greeks can, and understand what they say to one another most of the time, even through tragedies of many kinds.

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2018, 10:31:56 AM »

You said you don't have a defintion.

The only criteria you have articulated is that the image be unposed and that it tell a story. Then there is a lot of hand waving.

https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/

You're right, Fab. That's the problem with being in a hurry. I should have addressed that query to Slobodan.

Okay, Slobodan. What do you you think is my definition of street photography? And what makes you think the picture on the start of that email is street photography?

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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2018, 10:43:27 AM »

There is not one definition of “landscape photography”: the word ‘landscape’ is a euphemism, standing essentially in opposition to the studio that preceded it, and ultimately to any kind of restrictive frame – it is a photography that is free of rules.

This sort of fits all art genres. You can pontificate about what you're doing being "free of rules," but what that actually means is you haven't a clue what you're doing, and don't want to take responsibility for the results.

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2018, 11:09:00 AM »

There is not one definition of “landscape photography”: the word ‘landscape’ is a euphemism, standing essentially in opposition to the studio that preceded it, and ultimately to any kind of restrictive frame – it is a photography that is free of rules.

This sort of fits all art genres. You can pontificate about what you're doing being "free of rules," but what that actually means is you haven't a clue what you're doing, and don't want to take responsibility for the results.

I always knew those Magnum hipsters could not be trusted.
If HCB or Capa where still alive, they would give them a good spank, for sure.
How they dare not to take responsibility for the immense image diarrhea there are responsible for as a result of that utterly cluelessness.


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Re: The Art of Street Photography - A Magnum Course
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2018, 11:13:52 AM »

Apart from being clueless, I find the course very informative and interesting . It confirms largely my point of view and what I tried to explain in the past weeks.

One big surprise was the section of Bruce Gilden. I had a total wrong idea about that man, it appears to be a (relative) sensitive and intelligent man, I enjoyed his interview a lot.

I can only recommend to spend the few bucks.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2018, 11:57:37 AM »

It does look interesting. I may give it a go. Thing is street isn’t really such a biggie for me. Do I want to devote so much time to it. I will give it serious thought.
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