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Zeiss new camera
« on: September 28, 2018, 02:01:18 PM »

It seems that Zeiss has announced  new mirrorless full frame camera. If anybody has any more elaborate detail leave here please. Release time?
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 03:39:01 PM »

Supposedly out early-ish next year. No price info yet. The thing I like about it is wifi connectivity. The camera uses a version of Android as its OS, so networking stuff should work well. Apparently, though, it'll still require a smartdevice used as a wifi hotspot. At least initially…I see no technical reason why the camera won't be able to log into wifi networks directly. Just gotta enable that capability.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 05:18:45 PM »

And if the price andc quality are right, its going to be a serious rival of Leica M series. Small body with full frame sensore, very tepmting for street photographers...
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2018, 08:17:24 PM »

And if the price andc quality are right, its going to be a serious rival of Leica M series. Small body with full frame sensore, very tepmting for street photographers...

The body isn't overly small to say the least. The Sony Rx1RII is much more compact than the Zeiss.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2018, 11:21:54 PM »

The body isn't overly small to say the least. The Sony Rx1RII is much more compact than the Zeiss.

Much more compact ? I've read this comment in a couple of posts and I find it an odd point to make.

The Zeiss camera measures 142x93x66mm

The SONY is 133X65.4X72mm

So the Ziess is 9mm ( 0.35 inches ) wider, 6mm ( 0.23 inches ) taller but 6mm shorter from the back of the body to the front of the lens.

Imagine holding a camera this size and then change your grip of the camera by 0.23 inches from your thumb to your little finger as you cradle it in your palm. It's barely perceivable.


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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2018, 04:59:09 AM »

This camera is for me the most interesting anouncement.
what is interesting is the internal memory- 512Gb will be enough for almost everybody- no card slots and it could be very fast memory- USB-C for quick download.
also android as a operating system might bring more AI to the camera and image-making as well as better wireless connectivity. A weak point with most of the camera manufacturers.
In the end the price and quality will tell if it is a succes.
It is a daring move for Zeiss, but they have worked since long with Sony and produced many lenses for mobile phones so they have a lot of knowledge and contacts because of that.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2018, 09:31:51 AM »

.. its going to be a serious rival of Leica M series...

Except it is a fixed-lens, single focal length camera.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2018, 12:43:04 PM »

Much more compact ? I've read this comment in a couple of posts and I find it an odd point to make.

The Zeiss camera measures 142x93x66mm

The SONY is 133X65.4X72mm

So the Ziess is 9mm ( 0.35 inches ) wider, 6mm ( 0.23 inches ) taller but 6mm shorter from the back of the body to the front of the lens.

Imagine holding a camera this size and then change your grip of the camera by 0.23 inches from your thumb to your little finger as you cradle it in your palm. It's barely perceivable.

Here's a link that shows you the difference...not just a little different.

http://j.mp/2zEENEV

Your Sony figures are not correct...the length is not 133, but 113
Not only is the Zeiss quite a bit larger in size, but it also weighs almost 300gm more than the Sony.

Overall, a rather larger camera to carry around in the streets.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2018, 03:35:22 PM »

Yep, it's not a small camera. But it does have a large screen, 4.3"…around the same size as my iPhone's, so it needs to be big enough to accommodate that. Hi-res EVF (1920x1080 RGB) too. Maybe it'll end up being the Contax T2 of the digicam world.  :D

Edit: my iPhone's screen is closer to 6" diagonal.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2018, 06:25:55 PM »


Your Sony figures are not correct...the length is not 133, but 113
Not only is the Zeiss quite a bit larger in size, but it also weighs almost 300gm more than the Sony.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2018, 06:37:16 PM »

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2018, 12:53:12 AM »

It is big as larg as D850 Almost! I think partly because of internal hd.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2018, 07:34:45 AM »

I would compare it with the a7rIII and Z7.

About the same bulk and weight (and probably price).

A lot less capable IMHO.

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2018, 09:49:27 AM »

It is big as larg as D850 Almost! I think partly because of internal hd.
It is not an internal HD. It is a flash memory chip, just like an SD card but without the plastic case so it is smaller.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2018, 01:52:41 PM »

I would compare it with the a7rIII and Z7.

About the same bulk and weight (and probably price).

A lot less capable IMHO.

Cheers,
Bernard
Agreed: A Sony A7II or A7R with (Zeiss branded!) 35/1.8 lens are an almost perfect match for width, height and weight, and if there were a 35/2 Z mount lens, about the same would be true — even once you insert a 512GB card into one of those cameras. And those alternatives have IS along with the option of using many other lenses.

So a _lot_ depends on its "unique selling point" of in-camera editing on a screen that is smaller than many phones now have.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2018, 02:06:06 PM »

PRICE will determine it's success.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2018, 03:48:44 PM »

PRICE will determine it's success.

As can be said about virtually every camera.

Clearly they're going after a person who won't object to the cost, wants higher res than their phone and enjoys social media.
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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2018, 04:43:41 PM »

So a _lot_ depends on its "unique selling point" of in-camera editing on a screen that is smaller than many phones now have.

IMO direct wifi connectivity is this camera's thing. Having Lightroom on board is nice enough but not surprising given the camera's Android OS. Maybe it'll run Chrome, Instagram, Facebook (ugh), etc. too.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2018, 06:29:56 PM »

IMO direct wifi connectivity is this camera's thing. Having Lightroom on board is nice enough but not surprising given the camera's Android OS. Maybe it'll run Chrome, Instagram, Facebook (ugh), etc. too.

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Re: Zeiss new camera
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2018, 06:52:26 AM »

If it can carry a simcard you have 4g to transfer your images as soon as you shot them.
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