Trump III - the daily log

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

She didn’t lie...she accurately reported the facts as known and drew a faulty conclusion...that is not lying (look up the definition)

Trump says things he knows are not true....that’s lying.

+1

Cheers,
Bart

[Alan Klein]

She didn’t lie...she accurately reported the facts as known and drew a faulty conclusion...that is not lying (look up the definition)

Trump says things he knows are not true....that’s lying.

Well Trump gets some of his stuff from Fox.  So if they're wrong, he's not lying either.  If it's good for Rachel Maddow, it should be good for him too. 

In any case, his supporters, the people who voted for him, only care that he's not lying to them.  He's keeping his word and fulfilling his promises.  Meanwhile you guys are running around counting fibs and making charts to prove you hate him.  He has to defend himself not only against the opposition party but also against his own party establishment who feel he threatens them and 95% of the media.  Frankly, I don't know where he gets the energy and strength.  And he still has time paying off hookers.  Amazing.

[Alan Klein]

Second-quarter US GDP jumps 4.1% for best pace in nearly four years
Good news for America's economy and Trump. It will strengthened his hand in trade negotiations.  Doubles the GDP rate over the last quarter.  Supports the view that his tax legislation was right and it's working.  No lie here Schewe. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/us-gdp-q2-2018.html

[Alan Klein]

Remains of fallen US soldiers transferred out of North Korea
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/remains-fallen-us-soldiers-transferred-north-korea-024704315--abc-news-topstories.html

North Korea confirms new military chief of staff  Eliminated old war drum banging former chief as Kim pushes economic advancement.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-military-leadership/north-korea-confirms-new-military-chief-of-staff-idUSKBN1KH06N

More progress with North Korea.  Trump thanks Kim.  Negotiations continue.  War on hold.  Another Trump win and a win for America and the world. 

 

[digitaldog]

Second-quarter US GDP jumps 4.1% for best pace in nearly four years
Good news for America's economy and Trump. It will strengthened his hand in trade negotiations.  Doubles the GDP rate over the last quarter.  Supports the view that his tax legislation was right and it's working.  No lie here Schewe. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/us-gdp-q2-2018.html

No lies there yes, but it's a very different story here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/01/president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.a7fea6236140

In the 466 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president.

That’s an average of nearly 6.5 claims a day.

Even if you incorrectly suggest 80% are fake news (and no, they are not), that's still a big liar attempting to run the US!
Yes, Trump deserves some credit for the economy while standing on the shoulders of (you'll shutter to believe the facts as usual) Obama who was handed one big mess of a US economy.

[Alan Klein]

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Yes, Trump deserves some credit for the economy while standing on the shoulders of (you'll shutter to believe the facts as usual) Obama who was handed one big mess of a US economy.

I'm not taking anything away from Obama.  But when he started, the economy was in the toilet.  It had only one way to go - up.  Trump did start with a good economy.  But he's taking it to the next level and at a quick pace.  His tax legislation helped as corporate and individual taxes were lowered (not mine because I live in a high property tax state. So I'm not happy about that.)  .  His cheerleading also helped as did his attacks on cowards like Harley.  The strong GDP will help strengthen his hand in trade negotiations regarding tariffs.  This will also help photographers as well regarding intellectual property rights overseas especially in China.  While there will be short term pain, long term trade for America will increase.  A stronger GDP also encourages foreigners to invest in America creating even more jobs.  We'll have to legalize all those illegals as we'll need more workers.  Then they'll be able to vote.  Even Democrats can support that. 

[digitaldog]

I'm not taking anything away from Obama.  But when he started, the economy was in the toilet.  It had only one way to go - up.

That's a factual observation you can prove or simply another opinion san's facts?

[Alan Klein]

That's a factual observation you can prove or simply another opinion san's facts?

In 2008 while Bush was still in Office, the Fed and Treasury took major efforts to begin stabilizing the economy.  This was continued by Congress and Obama in the first weeks of his presidency in February, 2009.  The recession officially ended in June 2009 although we're still feeling it's effects. Frankly, we should have let the recession play out.  Recessions correct the bad practices of economies.  It's like taking an enema. When we're done, we feel better and are better.   Instead, by printing money and lowering interest rates to almost 0%, all we've done is kick the can down the road.  We've doubled our debt and now we have a deficit that is approaching $1 trillion again.  We're going broke and will pay the penalty in the next recession - only worse. Trump and the Republicans are no better than the Democrats.  Of course, Trump is the king of debt.  What he's doing now is forcing us to  print more something he couldn't do as a businessman. 

Here's a wiki report on the financial crisis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008#Emergency_and_short-term_responses

[digitaldog]

In 2008 while Bush was still in Office, the Fed and Treasury took major efforts to begin stabilizing the economy.  This was continued by Congress and Obama in the first weeks of his presidency in February, 2009.  The recession officially ended in June 2009 although we're still feeling it's effects. Frankly, we should have let the recession play out.  Recessions correct the bad practices of economies.  It's like taking an enema. When we're done, we feel better and are better.   Instead, by printing money and lowering interest rates to almost 0%, all we've done is kick the can down the road.  We've doubled our debt and now we have a deficit that is approaching $1 trillion again.  We're going broke and will pay the penalty in the next recession - only worse. Trump and the Republicans are no better than the Democrats.  Of course, Trump is the king of debt.  What he's doing now is forcing us to  print more something he couldn't do as a businessman. 

Here's a wiki report on the financial crisis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008#Emergency_and_short-term_responses

Can you or can't you answer the question, assuming you wish some of your readers to begin to accept your statement(s) outside of face value?

It had only one way to go - up.

Maybe a good (silly) trade war or similar would have produced another direction you state can ONLY go up, but thankfully, Obama didn't go that route and what did happen to the economy under his leadership is history (and to some, fake news of course).
You'll have us believe that while Bush was in office, he and the fed took steps to stabilize the economy, indicating prior to 2008, that wasn't their goals?
Your degree in economics is from where?
Your link indicates when the recession started and under who's leadership: The US recession that began in December 2007

[Alan Klein]

Can you or can't you answer the question, assuming you wish some of your readers to begin to accept your statement(s) outside of face value? Maybe a good (silly) trade war or similar would have produced another direction you state can ONLY go up, but thankfully, Obama didn't go that route and what did happen to the economy under his leadership is history (and to some, fake news of course).
You'll have us believe that while Bush was in office, he and the fed took steps to stabilize the economy, indicating prior to 2008, that wasn't their goals?
Your degree in economics is from where?
Your link indicates when the recession started and under who's leadership: The US recession that began in December 2007

The economy is booming under Trump.  Believe what you want.   

[digitaldog]

The economy is booming under Trump.  Believe what you want.   

I believe the economy is booming under Trump and Obama thanks largely and over far greater time to Obama. You stated that under Obama, the economy can ONLY go up which you can't prove. With such logic if I can be so kind, it doesn't matter who's running the show here (expect historically this century, Bush) and Trump doesn't deserve any more credit than Obama simply because again, you post assumptions without proof such as: It had only one way to go - up.
It's this so called logic if I can be so kind,which encourages other's here to call you out to back up your opinions with facts. Something you still haven't provided.....

Why not simply post your opinion without the need of any facts:
Trump=wonderful.
Obama=bad. Even if he can't make the economy do anything but go up.
It's simplistic, it is an opinion utterly void of fact, it can't be augured as such and you'd save yourself and other's so much time not posting about photography here. 

[Alan Klein]

I believe the economy is booming under Trump and Obama thanks largely and over far greater time to Obama. You stated that under Obama, the economy can ONLY go up which you can't prove. With such logic if I can be so kind, it doesn't matter who's running the show here (expect historically this century, Bush) and Trump doesn't deserve any more credit than Obama simply because again, you post assumptions without proof such as: It had only one way to go - up.
It's this so called logic if I can be so kind,which encourages other's here to call you out to back up your opinions with facts. Something you still haven't provided.....

Why not simply post your opinion without the need of any facts:
Trump=wonderful.
Obama=bad. Even if he can't make the economy do anything but go up.
It's simplistic, it is an opinion utterly void of fact, it can't be augured as such and you'd save yourself and other's so much time not posting about photography here. 

Thanks for your viewpoints.

[digitaldog]

Thanks for your viewpoints.

Trying to help you out as much as possible.
Still working on those facts?
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please" --Mark Twain

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...Trump=wonderful.
Obama=bad...

[digitaldog]

We atheists* find your sign to be as silly as your lack of evidence based facts! 
* https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/way-more-americans-may-be-atheists-than-we-thought/

[digitaldog]

Thanks for your viewpoints.

And for your further education historically on GDP:
http://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/what-is-the-gdp-and-what-does-its-4-1-percent-growth-mean-1286974531697

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

What is easier:

- first 100 pushups
- or subsequent 100 pushups?

[digitaldog]

What is easier:

- first 100 pushups
- or subsequent 100 pushups?

Ah. The old fall back: rhetorical questions.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Ah. The old fall back: rhetorical questions.

I'll translate the metaphor for you:

What is easier:

- to grow the economy from the bottom it reached and can only go up from there
- or to continue to grow the economy that is already high?

[jeremyrh]

I'll translate the metaphor for you:

What is easier:

- to grow the economy from the bottom it reached and can only go up from there
- or to continue to grow the economy that is already high?

False dichotomy. There is no "bottom" for the economy to reach.