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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #480 on: August 22, 2018, 10:55:22 am »

I want to pick up a camera that feels good in my hand, has the controls I need where I can reach them, and produces the best image possible. I spend most of my time looking through it, not at it, so I don't really care what it looks like. That said, the N7 looks pretty much like any other reflex camera... true, the grip sticks up a bit, but if that makes it easier to grip, so be it.

As photographers, we are visual artists, and as visual artists our task is none other than caring how something looks. See the conundrum?
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #481 on: August 22, 2018, 11:25:31 am »

Don't get too horny Bernard, but 5-axis IBIS and ISO64 (only on the Z7) seem to be confirmed. You can pre-order.

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/22/nikon-d850-vs-nikon-z6-vs-nikon-z7-specifications-comparison.aspx/



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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #482 on: August 22, 2018, 11:51:08 am »

As photographers, we are visual artists, and as visual artists our task is none other than caring how something looks. See the conundrum?

+1

Some of the mirrorless cameras, Sony in particular, and now Nikon, look like designed by IKEA or LEGO. Do you need to assemble it first?

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #483 on: August 22, 2018, 12:08:12 pm »

Some of the mirrorless cameras, Sony in particular, and now Nikon, look like designed by IKEA or LEGO.

Oh yeah, while DSLR's have been sculpted by Michelangelo...


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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #484 on: August 22, 2018, 12:16:43 pm »

As photographers, we are visual artists, and as visual artists our task is none other than caring how something looks. See the conundrum?

Indeed.

As visual artists I wouldn't recommend anyone come shopping with my wife and I. It doesn't matter if it's an egg cup or a car, the process is just mind numbing. And don't even get me started on clothes: we're as bad/good as each other.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #485 on: August 22, 2018, 12:17:43 pm »

I have seen many ugly photographers producing spectacular images.
At least on paper it looks as an amazing camera, so good that the only thing Nikon-haters can say is that it is ugly

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #486 on: August 22, 2018, 12:19:37 pm »

Believe me, this is not just Nikon...
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #487 on: August 22, 2018, 12:21:25 pm »

I've also seen many ugly images made by beautiful photographers.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #488 on: August 22, 2018, 12:24:59 pm »

And the new 24-70 looks like designed by Sigma  :P

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #489 on: August 22, 2018, 12:26:13 pm »

I've also seen many ugly images made by beautiful photographers.

Well, it does not take much effort  :)

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #490 on: August 22, 2018, 12:49:12 pm »

Oh yeah, while DSLR's have been sculpted by Michelangelo...




Yes, sculpted, but not by Michelangelo... more like Henry Moore... no sharp edges ;)

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #491 on: August 22, 2018, 01:05:20 pm »

Sharp edges


Losing them was reason that the F2 was picked up before the F; I think that shutter went up to 1/2000th instead of the F's 1/1000th, but I very seldom found myself above 1/250th on either

These usually high speeds popular today seem to be the product of sensors being too damned fast and people exploring wide-open aperture photography, even when there's no logic to it.

Oh well, guess it's a fun thing to do...

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P.S. Let nobody forget: Canon made the first melted Mars Bar bodies.

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« Reply #492 on: August 22, 2018, 01:10:35 pm »

... P.S. Let nobody forget: Canon made the first melted Mars Bar bodies.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #493 on: August 22, 2018, 03:09:08 pm »

+1

Some of the mirrorless cameras, Sony in particular, and now Nikon, look like designed by IKEA or LEGO. Do you need to assemble it first?

Hmmm... But the Sony and Nikon look very little like each other.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #494 on: August 22, 2018, 04:57:08 pm »

As photographers, we are visual artists, and as visual artists our task is none other than caring how something looks. See the conundrum?
For some visual artists, attractive form follows function, so it is the ones shaped like a bar of soapóand about as easy to grip securely with a heavy lens attachedóthat are ugly.

Anyway, for my eyes itís back to looking at the specs and hoping to look at sample images soon.
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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #495 on: August 22, 2018, 05:19:45 pm »

One possible very bad news that they may only feature one memory card slot.

When I thought that only Phase One could still make such terrible design decisions. ;)

Other than that the specs look great. If AF performance is up to speed we have a great first FF mirrorless camera from Nikon.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #496 on: August 22, 2018, 05:23:53 pm »

One card slot - are they serious? Sure the chance of failure is extremely low but for most working photographers that isn't good enough. I find myself on 100k+ / day sets (digitech on the side) quite often and a card failure would probably ruin someones career if they weren't tethered.



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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #497 on: August 22, 2018, 05:26:14 pm »

For some visual artists, attractive form follows function, so it is the ones shaped like a bar of soapóand about as easy to grip securely with a heavy lens attachedóthat are ugly.

This is my view as well.

I find as much beauty in a rhino as in a tiger.

The beauty in a camera shouldnít be assessed as a static object but as dynamic extension of oneís arm, eye,  mind. It is the fluidity of the experience, the ability of the tool to just vanish and enable the achievements of oneís artistic goal that determines beauty for me.

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #498 on: August 22, 2018, 05:31:51 pm »

One card slot - are they serious? Sure the chance of failure is extremely low but for most working photographers that isn't good enough. I find myself on 100k+ / day sets (digitech on the side) quite often and a card failure would probably ruin someones career if they weren't tethered.

Yes...

Even the Nikon APS-C bodies in the D7000 series had two slots.

That was one major reason why I picked the H6D-100c over the IQ100...

If confirmed this may mean that I would only use a Z as a testing ground for mirrorless, meaning I would possibly only buy a Z6 with one lens as a go everywhere camera.

Now XQD cards are probably the most reliable (never had a failure), but still...

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Re: Nikonís new mirrorless system, coming in early 2019
« Reply #499 on: August 22, 2018, 05:45:09 pm »

Im hoping they put a second slot in the battery grip.
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