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Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« on: April 25, 2018, 01:00:10 AM »

I have just noticed that there are currently 7 recent P1 backs for sales in the second hand section, which is unheard of as far as I can remember.

What’s up in the P1 world?

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2018, 01:35:39 AM »

P-1 has announced the end of factory-servicing for these backs.

Get ready for a landslide of "used" sales....and strategic retreats....

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2018, 04:11:09 AM »

P-1 has announced the end of factory-servicing for these backs.

Get ready for a landslide of "used" sales....and strategic retreats....

Sighing......Hank


That is only the old P backs. The P+ and forward is still being serviced and of course the IQ backs will be serviced for many years to come.

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2018, 05:20:59 AM »

That is only the old P backs. The P+ and forward is still being serviced and of course the IQ backs will be serviced for many years to come.

And all those poping up are mostly CMOS based IQ backs.

As if some guys had insider information about something about to happen. ;)

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2018, 06:03:54 AM »

Very interesting! I have noticed this elsewhere also and was wondering why there are so many IQ backs floating around at the moment.
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2018, 07:11:44 AM »

My setup is P1 and I love it to be honest.  Have tried the GFX and much prefer my P1.  That being said, I posted a while back concern given the obvious shift in marketing behavior of the company.  I am a senior executive with an expertise in strategy and usually such a shift is not a good sign for a company.  That being said there are a few other reasons that a company might curtail or shift their marketing strategy but even there it would be at the verge of a shift in focus for a company.  So whatever it is, it is a sign of a change coming.
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2018, 08:03:56 AM »

My setup is P1 and I love it to be honest.  Have tried the GFX and much prefer my P1.  That being said, I posted a while back concern given the obvious shift in marketing behavior of the company.  I am a senior executive with an expertise in strategy and usually such a shift is not a good sign for a company.  That being said there are a few other reasons that a company might curtail or shift their marketing strategy but even there it would be at the verge of a shift in focus for a company.  So whatever it is, it is a sign of a change coming.

Maybe they have a mirrorless camera in the works to compete with the X1D?
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2018, 08:11:39 AM »

Maybe they have a mirrorless camera in the works to compete with the X1D?

Indeed, that is a possibility.

Another one is that they need cash so badly that they are selling new backs as used ones at a large discount?

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2018, 08:41:28 AM »

Indeed, that is a possibility.

Another one is that they need cash so badly that they are selling new backs as used ones at a large discount?

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Bernard

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2018, 12:08:16 PM »

Indeed, that is a possibility.

Another one is that they need cash so badly that they are selling new backs as used ones at a large discount?

Everything is possible, but we know that the cmos backs will be replaced around summer as Sony new sensors become available. I am not surprised to see discounts. The Fuji GFX and Hasseblad X1D are discounted as well.
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »


That is only the old P backs. The P+ and forward is still being serviced and of course the IQ backs will be serviced for many years to come.

Peter

Does anyone know how to fix column issues?
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2018, 05:42:11 AM »

Does anyone know how to fix column issues?

Viagra?

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2018, 07:34:31 AM »

Does anyone know how to fix column issues?
If by that you mean a remap then sort of. I did a solution for Kodak ProBacks where remap happens in camera, but with P1s it is actually a lot easier - not much is applied to raws in camera and metadata is written in IIQ files. It should be possible to write software to preprocess them and inject the remap should the need arise for it
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2018, 11:20:30 AM »

Does anyone know how to fix column issues?
Remove the car sitting on top of it?  ;D
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2018, 02:07:52 PM »

Does anyone know how to fix column issues?

I think that spiderman saved a famous one in the last movie or am I misunderstanding what you are talking about?

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2018, 03:35:28 PM »

Oh no!
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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »

Really, ya'll?

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 04:30:55 PM »

Viagra?

Viagra is just a one-time fix, and we're addicts  ;)

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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 09:36:30 PM »

Really, ya'll?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcCPR7hQHCk


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Re: Large amount of P1 backs for sales
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2018, 09:32:47 AM »

It is easy to see why people might get the idea that there's trouble in Phase One land given the relative quietness of the company of late.  There is a marked reduction in Webinars, we are now 33% through 2018 and still no PODAS schedule, a big decline in Phase One folks engaging with the public online.  There was a major firmware update about 6 months ago and no webinar to teach us how to use the new features, etc...  One would think with the new much cheaper "quasi" medium format products available they would spend a lot more time being out there and promoting their products and explaining why their platform is superior.  As a Phase One customer and system owner, I very much hope they are very busy creating great new products but as someone that has invested a lot of money into the Phase One ecosystem, these things don't go unnoticed and give concern.
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