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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1060 on: November 12, 2020, 12:19:59 pm »

(‘accept it’ refers to cheating)


Okay then. Forget decency, respect, fairness, legality.

What the hell; forget laws, too.  They’re useless. Cheaters gonna cheat.

Yes cheaters are going to cheat and I suspect the vast majority of people in the world have cheated at least once.  I'm guilty, are you?  It's just who humans are. We are flawed. 


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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1061 on: November 12, 2020, 12:20:23 pm »

That's false. Seven states have certified their elections. Would you like a list?
Not on his planet. Posting FUD before fact is his posting history!  :'(
 Of course you are correct. Anyone on planet Earth that wants can keep track:
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020
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« Reply #1062 on: November 12, 2020, 12:20:39 pm »

I didn't follow this so I don't if the matter was raised.

What if Trump starts an war. Let's say with Iran. Reasons and ways he can find. Would that give him the opportunity to "disregard" the transition of power?

Nope.
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« Reply #1063 on: November 12, 2020, 12:20:57 pm »

That's false. Seven states have certified their elections. Would you like a list?
Oh, oops, sorry I didn't do a daily or hourly check; I'm a couple of days behind. So, let me be fair to the snowflakes and restate: not all states have their votes certified yet, so there is nothing to accept yet.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1064 on: November 12, 2020, 12:21:39 pm »

I'm not vilifying him.  He did this to himself, no pun intended,  and lost all authority.  They fired him because who would take him seriously after this incident?  Most men would rather identify with a guy with lots of pretty girlfriends than some guy who's self satisfying himself on Zoom.

Best to keep that webcam lens covered up with post-it notes and shut down the mic when not in use.

I don't know about "lost all authority". It was embarrassing, sure, and he may want to lay low for a while, but it's like not he choked a chicken on prime time.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1065 on: November 12, 2020, 12:22:35 pm »

I'm not vilifying him.  He did this to himself, no pun intended,  and lost all authority.  They fired him because who would take him seriously after this incident?  Most men would rather identify with a guy with lots of pretty girlfriends than some guy who's self satisfying himself on Zoom.
He lost authority in your mind. No lawsuits of rape and assault from multiple women unlike Trump.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1066 on: November 12, 2020, 12:23:51 pm »

Not on his planet. Posting FUD before fact is his posting history!  :'(
 Of course you are correct. One on planet Earth that wants can keep track:
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

Looks like he didn't think before posting.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1067 on: November 12, 2020, 12:24:19 pm »

Excellent Alan, glad you were able to rejoin with your loved ones. The way you describe it it is fine and poses no risk. Unfortunately, not every one follows common sense. This second wave is going to be tougher than the first one, because if countriesneed to implement a full lockdown, the economy will barely survive. So we are walking a fine balance, trying to minimize number of deaths and number of bankruptcies.
The vaccine better work.

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1068 on: November 12, 2020, 12:24:33 pm »

Not on his planet. Posting FUD before fact is his posting history!  :'(
 Of course you are correct. Anyone on planet Earth that wants can keep track:
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020
Nice try. Yes, the certification dates have passed in 7 states, but no word about if certification took actually place in those 7 states yet.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1069 on: November 12, 2020, 12:26:00 pm »

Oh, oops, sorry I didn't do a daily or hourly check; I'm a couple of days behind.

The first state certified a week ago. You might need to check your clocks and change your calendar.

Nice try though.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #1070 on: November 12, 2020, 12:27:50 pm »

It's hard to square the notion of a MASSIVE fraud with what happened in Congress and Senate. I mean, if there was fraud, they didn't do it very well, did they. Not massive in any sense that I understand the word.  :)

But also, since Trump was President for 4 years and has been whining about this voter fraud thing for as long as I can remember, shouldn't he have done something about it before the election? It's like those histograms on mirrorless bodies, it sure is a lot handier seeing the histogram before taking the picture.

Cause you know guys, there's not much that's easier to do than count votes. It's not high-tech, no mystery involved, just volunteers putting numbers in columns then double-checking the sums. Many countries have mastered this, a lot of them with fewer resources and experience than what the USA can bring to the table. So what gives?

You know, don't you, that there are people all over the world shaking their heads at this sh*t show. Or is it all just really part of an anti-immigration meme, hoping that people all over the world are looking at this and thinking, "Nah, I don't want to move there."  :)

Just lke the pandemic response, voting is a State matter.  Its not Federally controlled and as such each State has its own rules.  The President can't order a State to change is voting methods any more than he can make them enact a mask mandate.  For good or for bad thats the system.

Counting votes is more involved that just making a tally and much of it is done via machine with a computer interface.  Humans are also a big part of hte mail in ballot counting and more important the ballot verification process. 
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« Reply #1071 on: November 12, 2020, 12:28:42 pm »

So I was doing some back of the envelope math. I read that the Trump campaign had 60 million in the bank in October, and then spent 160 million on media ads. So they are in the hole 100 million, less the amount raised in October. So they are now raising money for the voter fraud litigation, and there is this little asterisk that says 50% of each donation goes to retire campaign debt. So the cynic in me says they need to keep up the voter fraud litigation long enough to raise a sufficient amount to pay off the campaign debt, which could take a while. Meanwhile, the lawyers are loving it, racking up those billable hours at a fast clip. And of course Trump is not coming out of pocket, so he doesn't care how much any of this is costing. Just suggesting that this may not be about preserving democracy at all.

By the way, who cares what Hillary did what, when, or where? It is a pretty close race for who can claim the title most despicable, Hillary or Trump. Saying you are better than Hillary doesn't exactly raise you to the level of paragon of virtue.
Well, Democrat Hillary in 2016, Democrat Gore in 2000.  The point is legal and other challenges are nothing new.  It's just that whatever Trump does, the Democrats make it seem like WWIII forgetting their candidates did similar things. 

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« Reply #1072 on: November 12, 2020, 12:29:50 pm »

I didn't follow this so I don't if the matter was raised.

What if Trump starts an war. Let's say with Iran. Reasons and ways he can find. Would that give him the opportunity to "disregard" the transition of power?
No.

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« Reply #1073 on: November 12, 2020, 12:32:06 pm »

I don't think you want me to get on the topic of politics since you couldn't handle that.

You couldn't handle it; don't be a masochist!

Not feeling any pain yet. Feeling tired?
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« Reply #1074 on: November 12, 2020, 12:33:40 pm »

Best to keep that webcam lens covered up with post-it notes and shut down the mic when not in use.

I don't know about "lost all authority". It was embarrassing, sure, and he may want to lay low for a while, but it's like not he choked a chicken on prime time.

Choked a chicken?  Nah.  I'm not touching that.  :)

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« Reply #1075 on: November 12, 2020, 12:33:45 pm »

Nice try. Yes, the certification dates have passed in 7 states, but no word about if certification took actually place in those 7 states yet.
As expected, you're again utterly lost. 7 states have been certified on the this planet, in this country.
You are of course entitled to your uninformed opinions on this subject. As I am entitled to my fact based data points.
Own a camera yet?  :P
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« Reply #1076 on: November 12, 2020, 12:34:19 pm »

Choked a chicken?  Nah.  I'm not touching that.  :)
Well at least you'd be doing it with someone you love  ;D
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« Reply #1077 on: November 12, 2020, 12:34:42 pm »

I'm not vilifying him.  He did this to himself, no pun intended,  and lost all authority.  They fired him because who would take him seriously after this incident?  Most men would rather identify with a guy with lots of pretty girlfriends than some guy who's self satisfying himself on Zoom.

Girlfriends? Trump's been credibly accused of sexual assault. He's on video talking about grabbing women by the pussy. If I'd been in charge at the New Yorker, I don't think I'd have fired Toobin, but I would have made him stand in the corner for a while. With his hands in plain sight. I don't think he's in any way comparable to Trump, who is a sexual predator.
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« Reply #1078 on: November 12, 2020, 12:37:45 pm »

He lost authority in your mind. No lawsuits of rape and assault from multiple women unlike Trump.
You'd still listen to Toobin?  What would you be thinking as he was expressing himself on TV?  Seriously? Choking chickens? ;)

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« Reply #1079 on: November 12, 2020, 12:37:56 pm »

If I'd been in charge at the New Yorker, I don't think I'd have fired Toobin, but I would have made him stand in the corner for a while. With his hands in plain sight.

Perhaps he was just lying on the bed to tuck in his shirt like Trump's personal attorney Rudy.
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