Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[kers]

This is actually a profound point, in my opinion. I'm reminded of a parable attributed to the Buddha, which conveys a similar message. There are many versions of the story, but the fundamental concept is the same. Here's one version:

"After many days of travel, Buddha arrived at a small town to give a speech. Everyone was happy to see him, except one young man.

While Buddha spoke, the man was shouting at him. Buddha did not pay attention and continued speaking. This infuriated the man even more. He walked directly in front of Buddha and continued to ridicule him. “You have no right to teach others. You’re stupid and you’re a fake!”

The Buddha's response to the man was to ask the question: “If you buy a gift for someone and that person does not accept the gift, to whom does the gift belong?”

"The young man was surprised by the question, thought for a moment and answered, “It would belong to me because I bought the gift.”

The Buddha said, “Correct. It’s the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I don’t feel insulted nor accept your hostility, the anger falls back on you, as it was initially yours to give. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you’ve done is hurt yourself.”

"The young man understood, clasped his hands together and slowly bowed to the Buddha. It was an acknowledgement that this man learned a valuable lesson that day."

Where to find this Buddha ?- he would be a great moderator...

[faberryman]

And while we are on the subject of idiot lawyers, why did Trump's lawyer suggest that Trump should be tried in criminal court rather than by the Senate in an impeachment proceeding?

[Robert Roaldi]

And while we are on the subject of idiot lawyers, why did Trump's lawyer suggest that Trump should be tried in criminal court rather than by the Senate in an impeachment proceeding?

Is it my imagination or are there more and more lawyers doing weirder and weirder stuff every day?

Also, is it my imagination or has Trump more or less disappeared from the public sphere? There's still a lot of talk around but is any of it coming from him?

My belief was (and is) that since he's no longer the political centre of attention, he has just moved on. If it's not about him, he doesn't want to know. Am I wrong, am I missing something? He doesn't even seem to be very interested in this impeachment. Maybe from his point of view, the fix is in no matter what, so why spend time on it.

[PeterAit]

I won't communicate with someone who doesn't respect me. If it happens a lot, then I don't want to even be here in this forum. I have better things to do and will go elsewhere.

People can be perfectly polite and civil and still have no respect.

[PeterAit]

This is actually a profound point, in my opinion. I'm reminded of a parable attributed to the Buddha, which conveys a similar message. There are many versions of the story, but the fundamental concept is the same. Here's one version:

"After many days of travel, Buddha arrived at a small town to give a speech. Everyone was happy to see him, except one young man.

While Buddha spoke, the man was shouting at him. Buddha did not pay attention and continued speaking. This infuriated the man even more. He walked directly in front of Buddha and continued to ridicule him. “You have no right to teach others. You’re stupid and you’re a fake!”

The Buddha's response to the man was to ask the question: “If you buy a gift for someone and that person does not accept the gift, to whom does the gift belong?”

"The young man was surprised by the question, thought for a moment and answered, “It would belong to me because I bought the gift.”

The Buddha said, “Correct. It’s the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I don’t feel insulted nor accept your hostility, the anger falls back on you, as it was initially yours to give. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you’ve done is hurt yourself.”

"The young man understood, clasped his hands together and slowly bowed to the Buddha. It was an acknowledgement that this man learned a valuable lesson that day."

Excellent!

[faberryman]

Another nonsensical post.

Not everything you don't understand is nonsensical.

[John Camp]

Is it my imagination or are there more and more lawyers doing weirder and weirder stuff every day?

Also, is it my imagination or has Trump more or less disappeared from the public sphere? There's still a lot of talk around but is any of it coming from him?

My belief was (and is) that since he's no longer the political centre of attention, he has just moved on. If it's not about him, he doesn't want to know. Am I wrong, am I missing something? He doesn't even seem to be very interested in this impeachment. Maybe from his point of view, the fix is in no matter what, so why spend time on it.

News reports said he was enraged by his lawyers' fecklessness at the opening of the trial, so he is paying attention. But I think the fact that he has been pulled off the biggest social media has had an effect -- and that a lot of people have moved on to topics like vaccine distribution, the support checks, and so on...and most approve of Biden's performance, which reduces the impact of Trump's childish temper tantrums. The more he dwindles in the rearview mirror, the less important he'll seem.   

[Alan Klein]

News reports said he was enraged by his lawyers' fecklessness at the opening of the trial, so he is paying attention. But I think the fact that he has been pulled off the biggest social media has had an effect -- and that a lot of people have moved on to topics like vaccine distribution, the support checks, and so on...and most approve of Biden's performance, which reduces the impact of Trump's childish temper tantrums. The more he dwindles in the rearview mirror, the less important he'll seem.   

The Republican party needs someone young and vigorous with an exciting presence and agenda. Trump, like Biden, is too old.  People want to move on.  They'll want younger blood. The economy is in for some challenges in the future.  People are going to be concerned about their paycheck and inflation and other financial challenges we face.

[digitaldog]

The Republican party needs someone young and vigorous with an exciting presence and agenda.

Take your pick, after defying what "young' and "vigorous" means in context:
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-trump-republicans-talks-to-form-third-party-reuters-2021-2
I'd pick Evan McMullin if I were considering to vote Republican (but only after a brain clot).

[Alan Klein]

Take your pick, after defying what "young' and "vigorous" means in context:
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-trump-republicans-talks-to-form-third-party-reuters-2021-2
I'd pick Evan McMullin if I were considering to vote Republican (but only after a brain clot).

He seems to be part of a group that represented all the old establishment insiders like Bush. Those guys got us into Iraq and inflated the dollar making the country poorer for many.   That's going backward. Then again, I shoot film.  So who am I to talk? 

[faberryman]

The Republican party needs someone young and vigorous with an exciting presence and agenda. Trump, like Biden, is too old.  People want to move on.  They'll want younger blood. The economy is in for some challenges in the future.  People are going to be concerned about their paycheck and inflation and other financial challenges we face.

Do you have anyone in mind? Someone that you would vote for?

[digitaldog]

He seems to be part of a group that represented all the old establishment insiders like Bush.

Seems=assumption but by all means, provide some data IF possible.

So you've kind of failed (again) to make a fully coherent request for the Republican party so let me edit and aid you, (which may or may not be useful to your readers who I suspect, have dismissed the first post):

(According to Alan with aid) The Republican party needs someone young and vigorous with an exciting presence and agenda, BUT NOT part of a group that represented all the old establishment insiders like Bush or guys that got us into Iraq and inflated the dollar making the country poorer for many.

See Alan, it's possible to post a fully thought out opinion, and more, assuming (and I hate to do on any topic, most certainly how your mind works...), it's not that difficult.
What else must be added to the above with respect to what The Republican party needs, from the keyboard of one Republican?

So who would that be Alan?

[Alan Klein]

Seems=assumption but by all means, provide some data IF possible.

So you've kind of failed (again) to make a fully coherent request for the Republican party so let me edit and aid you, (which may or may not be useful to your readers who I suspect, have dismissed the first post):

(According to Alan with aid) The Republican party needs someone young and vigorous with an exciting presence and agenda, BUT NOT part of a group that represented all the old establishment insiders like Bush or guys that got us into Iraq and inflated the dollar making the country poorer for many.

See Alan, it's possible to post a fully thought out opinion, and more, assuming (and I hate to do on any topic, most certainly how your mind works...), it's not that difficult.
What else must be added to the above with respect to what The Republican party needs, from the keyboard of one Republican?

So who would that be Alan?

So now you're a grammar and literary teacher.  Will you be checking my spelling too? Man, are you tiresome.

[faberryman]

So now you're a grammar and literary teacher.  Will you be checking my spelling too? Man, are you tiresome.

Literary teacher?

[Alan Klein]

Do you have anyone in mind? Someone that you would vote for?

No one I'm aware of yet.  If Trump stays out of the picture sucking up all the oxygen, there'll be some new people we'll learn about. 

[Alan Klein]

Literary teacher?

Let's concentrate on the point of the post, not style, grammar, or spelling.  That's just an excuse to attack posters personally rather than debating the points they're making.

lit·er·ar·y
/ˈlidəˌrerē/

adjective
1.
concerning the writing, study, or content of literature, especially of the kind valued for quality of form.

[digitaldog]

So now you're a grammar and literary teacher. 

Nope, you're confused, slow down and read what was written (now by two of us) again.

Will you be checking my spelling too?

No. It is a web forum, some here typing on phones etc, some with spell checkers going rouge. Too much work when most of the time, many of us here can bypass your spelling, and simply check on your facts and misunderstandings. That's enough work. You know, like "all original prints are 300 dpi" and many, many other examples. 
You can state: "all original prints are 300 dpi" or "al originel prints are 300 dpi" and the spelling doesn't change the confused incorrect post.
So I'll try again.
The Republican party needs, (from the keyboard of one Republican) who Alan, type a name of someone, correctly spelled or not?

[faberryman]

Let's concentrate on the point of the post, not style, grammar, or spelling.  That's just an excuse to attack posters personally rather than debating the points they're making.

lit·er·ar·y
/ˈlidəˌrerē/

adjective
1.
concerning the writing, study, or content of literature, especially of the kind valued for quality of form.

Just trying to understand what you are talking about. The use of the term "literary teacher" doesn't make any sense.

[digitaldog]

The use of the term "literary teacher" doesn't make any sense.

Consistency.... 
“Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago.” ― Bernard Berenson

[Alan Klein]

Biden to follow Trump's China policy while changing the style a little.  But tariffs, military presence, and tough positions will remain in force.  Suddenly, tariffs are good again. It was easy to criticize Trump's policies from the outside.  But when you're in charge of protecting American interests, the chessboard changes a lot.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-raises-concerns-chinese-president-first-official-phone-call-n1257405