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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #820 on: April 03, 2020, 12:15:49 pm »

Your picky comment is typical from those who will find everything he does as wrong.  What confidence and hope would a president inspire if he was hiding in his basement like Biden?

Come on now, there's quite a difference between setting a good example by practising safe social distancing and hiding in a basement.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #821 on: April 03, 2020, 12:16:50 pm »

Why are you so angry at "our leader".  What's it your business?  What's your politics?  What's your nationality?  What's your name?  Why are you hiding here in plain sight?
Psst... it is a conspiracy.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #822 on: April 03, 2020, 12:17:14 pm »

People party indoors too. They do it all winter long even though it gets dark early. Maybe because it gets dark early. They ski and party afterward. They play hockey in crowded arenas, don't need to wait for March break.

You are way over-reaching.

No, I'm not.  Not as many people can party in most interiors as on a beach.  Plus, you can easily storm a beach and throw a party.

What are rowdy hockey fans going to do with the season cancelled.  Break into a locked venue, strip down to just bath suits and party like it is 1999? 

Plus, show me the Canadian story that got nearly as much attention as the spring break story. 

Like I said, it is a narrative that we in the USA are not taking this as serious as you guys up north, but it is just a narrative due to more media attention, not a reality. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #823 on: April 03, 2020, 12:17:59 pm »

The odd thing is neither governor outlawed the sale of fish bowl cleaner, so after your doctor turns down your request for a prescription, you can just head over to PetsMart. I don't think either the Republican or Democrat governors are distinguishing themselves.
My wife figured that out and picked up spray cleanser for pets at the pet store when we couldn't find antibiotic cleanser any elsewhere.  Works just as good as "human" spray like Lysol disinfectant.

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« Reply #824 on: April 03, 2020, 12:19:20 pm »

No, I'm not.  Not as many people can party in most interiors as on a beach.  Plus, you can easily storm a beach and throw a party.

What are rowdy hockey fans going to do with the season cancelled.  Break into a locked venue, strip down to just bath suits and party like it is 1999? 

Plus, show me the Canadian story that got nearly as much attention as the spring break story. 

Let I said, it is a narrative that we in the USA are not taking this as serious as you guys up north, but it is just a narrative, not reality.

I would argue that indoor transmission rate will be significantly higher than outdoor.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #825 on: April 03, 2020, 12:20:17 pm »

Just look North. Consistent message from the top all the way to the local mayors and even your doctor or neighbours. Sure it won't be 100%...but I can tell you the people I know that arrived from outside of Canada have self isolated for 14 days.
The government has told people to self quarantine if they were in NYC during the outbreak and travelled elsewhere particularly FLorida.  I was one of them living in NJ.   So that had been done.  Geniuses don't only live in Canada. 

Alan Klein

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #826 on: April 03, 2020, 12:21:30 pm »

And why did other countries start a testing effort and isolation of incoming people? Are they smarter than Trump? Did they have better medical and scientific data? Exactly what logical reason was there no isolation attempt and very little testing for weeks? Can you lay out the logic which led to these decisions...especially when other parts of the world were moving ahead with isolation and full on testing?
Questioned and answered.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #827 on: April 03, 2020, 12:23:33 pm »

Are you sure it was the Chinese tourists or American tourists coming from China carrying the virus?

Vancouver had the 2nd highest population density in North America and has very issues. The vast majority of deaths in metro Vancouver were in care homes...not random people in the street.
Asked and answered.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #828 on: April 03, 2020, 12:24:50 pm »

Insofar as the captain, he broke the chain of command and went directly to the press.  He deserved to get fired. 

The US Navy is probably the most traditional of all the branches. Captains go down with their ship.  You don't embarrass your commander or the navy by sending out emails to 20-30 people to cover your ass and make it seem like others weren't doing their job.  He should have made a private phone call to his commander or written just him to ask for help and given them an opportunity to help fix the problem or he should have fixed it himself. As a Captain, one grade below an Admiral, and commander of one of America's largest fighting ships with 5000 men and officers, you expect more.  The Secretary lost confidence in his ability to command such a large vessel and relieved him.

Well Joe you and Alan Klein , should go on Twitter and do a search hahtag #leader,  #USSTheodoreRoosevelt , #CaptainCrozierAmeriocanHero

you'll see a multitude of tweets and video clips of the crew, en masse, on deck , shouting " Capt Crozier , Capt. Crozier" clapping and cheering the Captain as he leaves his ship.

I can't link but you'll find hundreds,thousands of tweets and retweets, type: 

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>It’s so rare to find a commanding officer that is so well received and respected.....I hope @USNavy takes a real look at this #USSTheodoreRoosevelt

>The Commander of the #USSTheodoreRoosevelt threw himself on a live grenade for the lives of the sailors who serve under his command. So instead of receiving the Medal of Honor, he is being fired. Go #Navy?

>One of America's best. This is disgraceful treatment and I am ashamed for our country. And Eddie Gallagher keeps his SEAL Trident pin.

As to Alan Klein's riposte above - deserves a different hashtag : #ShameOnYou

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #829 on: April 03, 2020, 12:25:52 pm »

You completely missed the point. 

He was stating that the USA was having many more people disobeying the order then in Canada, and use spring break as an example. 

This is just not the case. First, like I said no one cares enough about Canada to pay attention to it.  (There is no non-stop thread on here about Canadian politics, is there?)  So there is a media bias which publishes more USA examples. 

Second, it does not take a rocket scientist to realize less people go out and interact when it is cold then when it is sunny and warm.  Thus, stories like spring break are not going to be happening in Canada.


No; a lot of people cares about Canada; there are many there of UK descent and thousands there faithfully buy - or are sent - Scottish calendars of glens, mountains and northern beaches. Had I gone down that route I would probably have never retired: cupidity might well have driven me to an early grave. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Scots fans of Canada than there are French ones!

But politically, the reason people are bogged down in US politics is Trump: he is such an unexpected, unmitigated misfit for the rôle of president that the world can't help itself watching out for the next disaster in the slow-mo train-wreck show. Added interest is that unlike in the movies, what this guy does affects all countries, not because he is a savant, a wunderkind of any sort even, but because he happens to be at the wheel of the world's biggest war and economic machine that is hurtling along, effectively out of control.

That many of its passengers are telling one another that everything is cool, that the best thing to do is go make another cheese, go shoot another camper van and, most certainly, invest in an extension to the armoury only adds drama to the background scenery. Some external observers even wonder if they are actually watching a very expensive and long-running commercial for a new Amazon or Netflix show.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #830 on: April 03, 2020, 12:29:53 pm »

I think William described this behavior better than I've seen anywhere: Pavlovian. Somebody says Trump, you guys jump. Doesn't matter what is said.

Read the articles that Joe posted and my summary. Whitmer's restrictions had nothing to do with Trump, but with the reports that way too many physicians were inappropriately prescribing the drugs to friends and families.
You're being naive. She did it for political reasons.  Trump was for it so she had to be against it. His opponents don't want to say anything nice about anything he does.   It's too bad this virus did not hit after the election.  A lot of the politics wouldn't have occurred that creating problems.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #831 on: April 03, 2020, 12:31:19 pm »

Why are you so angry at "our leader".  What's it your business?  What's your politics?  What's your nationality?  What's your name?  Why are you hiding here in plain sight?

Alan I care because of the people that will die. Nationality has nothing to do with caring for people all around this world. I see the screwups by the leadership in the USA causing a bunch of unnecessary death and hardships. I see a bunch of self centred countries and leaders all over the world that turn their back on the millions of Afrcans that die of starvation every year. My nationality has nothing to do with my concern for humanity.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #832 on: April 03, 2020, 12:32:46 pm »

Psst... it is a conspiracy.

Damn it...you've blown my Biden cover.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #833 on: April 03, 2020, 12:33:47 pm »

What people are asked to do is stay in the house for 14 days...no shopping. There are tons of services that can deliver food to your door.
Where do you live?  How can we judge where your head and knowledge is without it.  How about just a city?  A country?  Maybe a hemisphere? 

No one is delivering where I live.  I've been trying to get a delivery window for food and groceries and staples from Amazon for days.  I finally found an Italian grocery that took my order on the phone and prepared it for curbside pickup but no deliveries to your home. 

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #834 on: April 03, 2020, 12:35:48 pm »

The government has told people to self quarantine if they were in NYC during the outbreak and travelled elsewhere particularly FLorida.  I was one of them living in NJ.   So that had been done.  Geniuses don't only live in Canada.

We hear it everyday from all level of leadership. We have not once heard "it'll be over by Easter" or "it'll just go away like magic" from our leaders. Big difference on how one leads. Even today I see Trump standing side by side, even touching the others at the podium. What message is that sending?
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #835 on: April 03, 2020, 12:36:49 pm »

Questioned and answered.

Please elaborate here. Let's hear the answer from your own mouth.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #836 on: April 03, 2020, 12:37:35 pm »

There are multiple tests out there now, still in inadequate supply, but also with another issue: sensitivity. This means how many times it detects a tests when it is present. I hear some reports, at least for some used in Michigan, of 70% only which is quite bad. That means 3 out 10 people who have it can test negative.
Of bigger concern is how effective with vaccines be if they invent them?  The regular flu vaccine is only 40% effective this year (that's another rough number folks. :) )  So even if we get a vaccine, if it's 40% effective, we'll be right back in the soup again next year.   Not sure my marriage can survive another quarantine.  :)

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #837 on: April 03, 2020, 12:39:01 pm »

Asked and answered.

Alan I understand what your doing...cornered and giving smart ass replies. Bottom line people coming into the US from foreign lands whether tourists or American citizens were not tested nor quaranteened.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #838 on: April 03, 2020, 12:41:03 pm »

Come on now, there's quite a difference between setting a good example by practising safe social distancing and hiding in a basement.
You guys just don't want him to look good.  You'd prefer he look like sleepy Joe hiding in his basement mumbling his words and incoherent.  You even want him to shut down the news conferences because you know it's helping him in his poll numbers which is good for re-election. 

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #839 on: April 03, 2020, 12:45:34 pm »

Where do you live?  How can we judge where your head and knowledge is without it.  How about just a city?  A country?  Maybe a hemisphere? 

No one is delivering where I live.  I've been trying to get a delivery window for food and groceries and staples from Amazon for days.  I finally found an Italian grocery that took my order on the phone and prepared it for curbside pickup but no deliveries to your home.

I live in Canada and there are delivery services that are crawling over themselves to help out. Many have organized as a grass roots move to help the seniors stay at home...but it has spread to anyone needing or wanting help getting groceries or medical supplies.

This has been praised a number of times by our Prime Minister during his daily address to the nation. It's inspiring and infectious.
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