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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #840 on: April 03, 2020, 12:51:16 pm »

Alan I care because of the people that will die. Nationality has nothing to do with caring for people all around this world. I see the screwups by the leadership in the USA causing a bunch of unnecessary death and hardships. I see a bunch of self centred countries and leaders all over the world that turn their back on the millions of Afrcans that die of starvation every year. My nationality has nothing to do with my concern for humanity.
You nationality does count.  Maybe you're Chinese and trying to make America look bad.  Also, just how well is your country handling this?  It's easy to point fingers at America.  Just how great is your country?  Hiding who you are, it's easy to criticize and not have to take responsibility for your country's screwups.  Be a man.  Own up to who you are.

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« Reply #841 on: April 03, 2020, 12:53:28 pm »

We hear it everyday from all level of leadership. We have not once heard "it'll be over by Easter" or "it'll just go away like magic" from our leaders. Big difference on how one leads. Even today I see Trump standing side by side, even touching the others at the podium. What message is that sending?
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« Reply #842 on: April 03, 2020, 12:54:38 pm »

Alan I understand what your doing...cornered and giving smart ass replies. Bottom line people coming into the US from foreign lands whether tourists or American citizens were not tested nor quaranteened.
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« Reply #843 on: April 03, 2020, 12:58:44 pm »

I live in Canada and there are delivery services that are crawling over themselves to help out. Many have organized as a grass roots move to help the seniors stay at home...but it has spread to anyone needing or wanting help getting groceries or medical supplies.

This has been praised a number of times by our Prime Minister during his daily address to the nation. It's inspiring and infectious.
Thanks for letting us know you're Canadian.  How about adding that detail to your profile so everyone can know that going forward?  It would be really helpful.  A first name would also help so we can refer to it rather than hogloff.  It's not very personal and would help us be more friendly to each other.  Look how nice people are to me because I give my name.  :)

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« Reply #844 on: April 03, 2020, 01:01:52 pm »

You're being naive. She did it for political reasons.  Trump was for it so she had to be against it. His opponents don't want to say anything nice about anything he does.   It's too bad this virus did not hit after the election.  A lot of the politics wouldn't have occurred that creating problems.

You are being obtuse here. The drug is accessible for physicians to prescribe in the hospital setting, just harder to call in prescriptions to the outpatient pharmacies. It's not that difficult really. Not everything revolves around Trump outside of your world.

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« Reply #845 on: April 03, 2020, 01:04:27 pm »

Of bigger concern is how effective with vaccines be if they invent them?  The regular flu vaccine is only 40% effective this year (that's another rough number folks. :) )  So even if we get a vaccine, if it's 40% effective, we'll be right back in the soup again next year.   Not sure my marriage can survive another quarantine.  :)

Different things.

So far there is no data that this will change its structure in a similar fashion to the flu virus. And that 40% is a little deceiving, even if you get it, if you had other flu vaccines in the past, you tend to have a milder form.

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« Reply #846 on: April 03, 2020, 01:09:30 pm »

Thanks for letting us know you're Canadian.  How about adding that detail to your profile so everyone can know that going forward?  It would be really helpful.
Otherwise, how will Alan know which set of prejudices to apply.
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #847 on: April 03, 2020, 01:21:48 pm »

On that note I should probably remind everyone I'm an immigrant. :)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #848 on: April 03, 2020, 01:23:11 pm »

Guys,

I got up to make coffee and you are already 2-3 pages ahead. Please! I can't keep up. I am going to have ask Josh to institute circuit breakers like on the Wall Street, so that when number of posts in a single forum reaches 15 per second, the posting is automatically halted for 15 min.

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« Reply #849 on: April 03, 2020, 01:34:57 pm »

Just look North. Consistent message from the top all the way to the local mayors and even your doctor or neighbours. Sure it won't be 100%...but I can tell you the people I know that arrived from outside of Canada have self isolated for 14 days.

What a cop out.  Looking north is useless.  Did you have 3 million entries?  I asked you how do we confine 3 million people. Its a pretty simple question and all you did is sidestep.  Wanna try again?  I'm sure may of those 3 million did self confine, but not at the port of entry which is the only place it make sense.  But them again there is that pesky constituion. 
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #850 on: April 03, 2020, 01:36:52 pm »


No; a lot of people cares about Canada; there are many there of UK descent and thousands there faithfully buy - or are sent - Scottish calendars of glens, mountains and northern beaches. Had I gone down that route I would probably have never retired: cupidity might well have driven me to an early grave. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Scots fans of Canada than there are French ones!

But politically, the reason people are bogged down in US politics is Trump: he is such an unexpected, unmitigated misfit for the rĂ´le of president that the world can't help itself watching out for the next disaster in the slow-mo train-wreck show. Added interest is that unlike in the movies, what this guy does affects all countries, not because he is a savant, a wunderkind of any sort even, but because he happens to be at the wheel of the world's biggest war and economic machine that is hurtling along, effectively out of control.

That many of its passengers are telling one another that everything is cool, that the best thing to do is go make another cheese, go shoot another camper van and, most certainly, invest in an extension to the armoury only adds drama to the background scenery. Some external observers even wonder if they are actually watching a very expensive and long-running commercial for a new Amazon or Netflix show.

G--D--- this Texan American loves you, Rob :)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #851 on: April 03, 2020, 01:37:26 pm »

And why did other countries start a testing effort and isolation of incoming people? Are they smarter than Trump? Did they have better medical and scientific data? Exactly what logical reason was there no isolation attempt and very little testing for weeks? Can you lay out the logic which led to these decisions...especially when other parts of the world were moving ahead with isolation and full on testing?

Do you actually read the news?  Do you understand the cultural and size differences betweens countries.  Do you even have a clue as to how US law and the constitution dictates how things happen?  Sheesh.
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« Reply #852 on: April 03, 2020, 01:39:29 pm »

On that note I should probably remind everyone I'm an immigrant. :)

Brave man :)
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #853 on: April 03, 2020, 01:42:57 pm »

G--D--- this Texan American loves you, Rob :)

Ever since Brexit, Rob has sold his soul to commies. No wonder you are welcoming him into your arms.

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #854 on: April 03, 2020, 01:46:29 pm »

What a cop out.  Looking north is useless.  Did you have 3 million entries?  I asked you how do we confine 3 million people. Its a pretty simple question and all you did is sidestep.  Wanna try again?  I'm sure may of those 3 million did self confine, but not at the port of entry which is the only place it make sense.  But them again there is that pesky constituion.

Canadian are quaranteening in their homes. They go from airport to home without stopping. These orders are given to every individual that comes into Canada. I don't know what percentage of people are doing this...but I believe it is very high as this information is given out through every media every day. Everyone I know that came into Canada from being away has self quaranteened in their homes.

So it's hard to do...just give up and party instead? What exactly was the alternative method employed in the US to all those Americans coming home?
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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #855 on: April 03, 2020, 01:46:54 pm »

We hear it everyday from all level of leadership. We have not once heard "it'll be over by Easter" or "it'll just go away like magic" from our leaders. Big difference on how one leads. Even today I see Trump standing side by side, even touching the others at the podium. What message is that sending?

Good grief.  Are words like "I hope",  "Maybe",  "it would be great", "its an asperation" missing from your reading capacity? 

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Re: Covid 19 Updates Part 2
« Reply #856 on: April 03, 2020, 01:49:33 pm »

Do you actually read the news?  Do you understand the cultural and size differences betweens countries.  Do you even have a clue as to how US law and the constitution dictates how things happen?  Sheesh.

I don't see the laws being any different here in Canada. Are Americans so hung up on their constitutional rights that they would not self isolate to possibly save other people's lives. Are your damn rights so important to you that you'd risk infecting...and leading others to death? Where's the humanity in you?
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« Reply #857 on: April 03, 2020, 01:51:05 pm »

Ever since Brexit, Rob has sold his soul to commies. No wonder you are welcoming him into your arms.

Unpossible.  We don't allow commies or commielovers here in the great state of Texas.   
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« Reply #858 on: April 03, 2020, 01:51:50 pm »

You nationality does count.  Maybe you're Chinese and trying to make America look bad. 

Yeh those commies are hiding under every stone. Better look over your shoulder when you walk down the street.
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« Reply #859 on: April 03, 2020, 01:53:49 pm »

Canadian are quaranteening in their homes. They go from airport to home without stopping. These orders are given to every individual that comes into Canada. I don't know what percentage of people are doing this...but I believe it is very high as this information is given out through every media every day. Everyone I know that came into Canada from being away has self quaranteened in their homes.

So it's hard to do...just give up and party instead? What exactly was the alternative method employed in the US to all those Americans coming home?

Is your understanding of how international travel works so limited that you think that everyone coming into the US from overseas lands directly at the airport in their hometown?  That many make one or more other flights, train rides, cab rides or even Ubers to get home?  How many more people will they be in contact with?  Or want about those who are not residents but were visitors?  This is nothing about having a party but rather the massive logistics of dealing with 3 million people.
 
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