Started by Diego Pigozzo, March 27, 2015, 08:50:58 am
Quote from: michael on March 28, 2015, 09:16:30 amTruth be told, it was a mistake.
QuoteThe important question to ask is not, "Does the work say what I wanted it to say?" Instead ask, "Can I take responsibility for what it is saying?" ... from time to time, one will receive new insights and learn new things when one engages with a medium. ... Sometimes your pictures will closely correspond to your pre-visualized notion. Sometimes they will be vastly different.
Quote from: Telecaster on March 27, 2015, 04:35:15 pmOne of my all-time favorite photos (depending on the day it's my #1 fav):http://www.photoforager.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/william-klein12.jpg-Dave-
Quote from: Iluvmycam on March 28, 2015, 03:15:11 pmBut what will the anal landscapers and LF guys produce in place of my shot....ZERO. Number 1, they don't have the skills of a doc photog to shoot such pix up tight in areas where photography is banned. Anal landscapers and LF guys go for perfection. I go for getting the shot and keeping the IQ doable. But by doable it is doable by doc standards, not LF or anal standards.
Quote from: Slobodan Blagojevic on March 28, 2015, 04:52:09 pmMistakes happen. Dozen, hundreds, thousands. But the ability to recognize and see something else in a mistake is a sign of a true photographer. Such is the case in Michael's photo.
Quote from: jjj on March 28, 2015, 04:52:49 pmIt is dangerous to assume that just because someone likes doing high quality landscapes that they are incapable of some stealthy street shooting.
Quote from: Hans Kruse on March 28, 2015, 05:00:39 pmSo true and so often people that are good at one thing are viewed as incapable of other things. Strange that people are often viewed as almost binary in terms of talent. I find that often talented people are talented in many different things. Sometimes not even in the same field.
Quote from: Iluvmycam on March 28, 2015, 04:46:25 pmHere is a little known masterpiece from Cartier-Bresson's 1952 book The Decisive Moment called 'Tehran 1950'. http://blogsearchtest.tumblr.com/image/110263740956Here are a few comments from a discussion on it..."Looks pretty marginal to me. Do you want me to bow down to him?""I found it more obnoxious than anything else.""What makes it so great? The crooked horizon? The poor composition? The distracting background? The blown out chandelier? The blown out black-blob of a curtain? The distracting bright triangle from the area beyond the curtain? The poor use of bokeh to make it hard to tell the wall is a mosaic of mirrors? The pushed-too-far contrast to remove any details."Let's look at these 'perfection' critics a little closer. Here is a little background from the "Looks pretty marginal to me." critic.http://freezingtime1.tumblr.com/image/114526874247And something from the "What makes it so great?" critic. This guy must be a master photographer with his devastating critique of Bresson...right.http://freezingtime1.tumblr.com/image/114526979642 When I tried to discuss this on that forum they banned me. It seems to be a common phenomena that online critics think they can always do it better than someone else. All my critics know more than me. The 2 critics above know better than Bresson. This is how the ego can distort reality. Photogs can be a jealous bunch. Lots of hatred within many of them. Our work defines us and is an extension of ourselves. But deep down inside many know their work will never amount to anything. Photogs as well as artists are stressed out trying to get attention for their work. All the while the market is polluted with so many images no one person could possibly look through them even part of them in a lifetime. All this stress can put the photog / artist in a bad mood. When people are in a bad mood they may not think straight. When people do not think straight they can't be depended upon for right thinking. That is why online feedback can cause more harm than good.Bottom line..."Never give up! Don't listen to the haters. Don't try to be an artist unless you can work and live in isolation, without any thanks....bleak, but needed until you get to the much lauded place."Scape Martinez
Quote from: ripgriffith on March 30, 2015, 04:44:38 amI'll just dive right in: this picture is a piece of crap! HCB is not a photo-god whose every work becomes divine just because he did it. Has he contributed much to the world of photography? Undeniably yes, more than most, perhaps, but far too many photographers treat his works, and his utterances, as sacred script. I personally have been highly influenced by his photographic work over the more than 60 years that I've been shooting, but I find his comments about his work to be filled with the hot air of uncritical self-adulation.
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