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uheck

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Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:52:07 am »

Hi dear Collegues,

the current published images of the upcoming 5Ds from Canon are the worst I ever saw from a "professional camera company".
They are so bad that they have the power to draw potentially interested photographers away from the brand.
Whoever intiated this PR nightmare should get fired.
Im speechless.
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2015, 09:20:03 am »

???

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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2015, 11:33:05 am »

what images are you talking about?
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2015, 12:08:50 pm »

Somebody had to do it  ;)

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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2015, 09:11:20 am »

I have to wonder whether Uheck might work for the PR department at Nikon. Or perhaps Sony. Canon???  ???
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2015, 06:43:32 pm »

Eager to see these horrible photos that left someone speechless.  Once more ...


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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 10:32:55 pm »

Heck U uheck! Heck U!!

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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2015, 12:26:56 am »

Now you've scared him away!  ;D

But he did say:

... the current published images
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 02:35:24 am »

ha!
 ;)

Actually Canon pulled the shots.Google might be lucky to find them.It was the hippo, the coastal line etc. 6 shots in total.
6 sub par shots.
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2015, 05:03:28 am »

ha!
 ;)

Actually Canon pulled the shots.

No they didn't:
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5ds/
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dsr/

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It was the hippo, the coastal line etc. 6 shots in total.
6 sub par shots.

Actually, I've seen worse Out-Of-Camera JPEGs from Canon on earlier occasions, so these are passable in comparison. Do they demonstrate the best possible, of course not, it would only disappoint less competent users ...

Cheers,
Bart
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2015, 08:05:40 am »

Thanks for finding them Bart

I don't think anybody at Canon PR will get in trouble over this (and not at Leica either)
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2015, 08:25:39 am »

It puzzles me that dedicated hobbyists seemingly can produce (simultaneously) technically and aestetically better picures from a given camera than billion dollar camera manufacturers can/will. Why don't they hire the top e.g. National Geographic photographers for a week with generous salary in order to create the most mind-blowing image files that money can buy?

1. Does Canon and friends see JPEG as the main thing their camera delivers, and the quality of OOC-Jpeg as the most important quality to show their customers?
2. Are they afraid that doing too much photoshopping image editing will create a customer backlash and/or lack of product differentiation?
3. Does Canon think that internet enthusiasts/pixel peepers are irrelevant to sales?

I believe that when Ibanez are releasing a new (expensive) guitar, they will hire some amazing guitar player/show-man at Frankfurt messe in order to strike a chord (literally) with prospective customers?

-h
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2015, 08:32:52 am »

Where have these dreadful animations come from ?
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2015, 09:50:49 am »

... 6 sub par shots.

Again, why are they "sub par"?

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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2015, 09:55:34 am »

I think this all is nothing but intentional to give some credibility of non-retouched imagery (as much as it is possible).

In the end, either way we would have complaints.
- How come my camera doesn't produce anything even close to those images in the promotional materials, have I got a faulty product????

Hi dear Collegues,

the current published images of the upcoming 5Ds from Canon are the worst I ever saw from a "professional camera company".
They are so bad that they have the power to draw potentially interested photographers away from the brand.
Whoever intiated this PR nightmare should get fired.
Im speechless.
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2015, 10:05:49 am »

I think this all is nothing but intentional to give some credibility of non-retouched imagery (as much as it is possible).

In the end, either way we would have complaints.
- How come my camera doesn't produce anything even close to those images in the promotional materials, have I got a faulty product????
While I mentioned something similar a couple of posts ago, there is a counter argument:
Most photographers (or rather: camera owners) are, subjectively speaking, mediocre. They/we are incredibly far from doing the best possible for a given camera.

As there is no lower limit to mediocreness, how incompetent should Canon produce their marketing images in order to ensure that every single customer was able to produce something close to it?

I'd think that customers accept that marketing material tries to portrait a product in the very best light (pun intended) possible. "With tailwindwind, downhill and meatballs for dinner" is a saying in my native language that might not translate very well speaking about the very fastest that e.g. a car can drive.

If Canon shot marketing images for the 750D using a MFDB, this would clearly violate the subjective expectations of their marketing-reading customers (and would be a scoop for MFDB manufacturers). But using their very best (handpicked) lenses, very best manual focusing technique, some tasteful photoshopping before shipping a jpeg? I think that is sensible.

-h
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2015, 02:54:44 pm »

They are not taking one chef and feeding everyone the same meal. Its a tool for everyone to be their own chef.
I too thought the hippo image was a less than nice, but as others pointed out I think they lower the level of the camera potential. They are not saying this is what you can do with this camera. They are saying here is a jpeg SOOC, take a look. There were even blown outs on that image. Its OK. They had a couple other nicer ones, yet still they were OK, nothing meaty. Maybe when it releases they will do a properly lit advert image with it?
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Re: Someone @ CANON PR should get fired
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2015, 02:55:16 pm »

I have to wonder whether Uheck might work for the PR department at Nikon. Or perhaps Sony. Canon???  ???

I find this amusing.  Let's face it, after 5 years of Canon not making any headway on sensor performance, I think Nikon/Sony shooters are pretty much over it.  Had, on the other hand, the 5Ds PR guys said that it meets or exceeds the current sensors on the market, THEN, I think some Nikon fanboys would have gone apoplectic. Most likely he is a Canon shooter trying to keep the faith, but getting BF'd by Canon.  And he didn't say FROM the 5Ds, he said OF the 5Ds!
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