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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2010, 01:24:55 pm »

what is UP with the "PH" thing, anyway?

PHooey.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2010, 01:29:48 pm »

DPReview has the press release up.  Personally I find this notion of targeting high-end 35mm shooters with a camera that's priced at $20K (US) absurd. Even if dealers offer discounts, it's still likely to be more than twice as much as the D3x, which many DSLR shooters already consider overpriced. Who do they think they're kidding? (besides themselves maybe, if they think this product is actually going to convert DSLR shooters to medium format).

I found this tidbit pretty funny:

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Most everyone in the photographic world is aware, for example, of the dramatic developments that have taken place in the 35mm in recent years,” he continues, “but there many of the younger generation of shooters are not aware of the fact that Medium Format DSLRs have evolved equally dramatically, maintaining – and even in some cases increasing – the quality gap that has historically existed between small format and larger format systems.”

Maybe that's true for just pixel count. But DSLR's have improved a lot more than just pixel count over the years, while the MF cameras have not shown much innovation at all in the same time.
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2010, 01:52:02 pm »

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what is UP with the "PH" thing, anyway?

PHooey.

They should Phire their entire marketing department. Smoke and Mirrors; Lose Weight Phast; Snake Oil. Here's a company that had the word Doubt already written on their Phorehead, and they unveil the utterly original Countdown Clock (that broke during the process), and it's merely a slightly altered camera model of something few people wanted previously. At least make it Darker Grey, to trick people into thinking that it's "revolutionary". It makes you wonder who they think they're marking to. Sad.
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2010, 01:59:27 pm »

[quote name='JeffKohn' date='Feb 2 2010, 10:29 AM' post='344363'


Maybe that's true for just pixel count. But DSLR's have improved a lot more than just pixel count over the years, while the MF cameras have not shown much innovation at all in the same time.
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I wouldn't agree with that as I think both formats have had lots of improvements.  Definitely lots of improvements to the MF cameras and backs over the last couple years.  MFDB went from being able to shoot up to ISO 200 usable to 1600 for one example, color rendering has improved, and the responsiveness of the cameras has gotten better as well.  Many new lenses have been introduced for a number of the different platforms.
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2010, 02:02:24 pm »

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At least make it Darker Grey, to trick people into thinking that it's "revolutionary". It makes you wonder who they think they're marking to. Sad.

Have you some PH stocks ? lol

It's marketing as usual, "talk good, talk bad, but talk of me".

So, it an excellent marketing to announce a new camera. Do you imagine a well known brand as Hasselblad would launch a new camera without telling You ? You would be even more frustrated

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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2010, 02:25:51 pm »

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So, it an excellent marketing to announce a new camera. Do you imagine a well known brand as Hasselblad would launch a new camera without telling You ? You would be even more frustrated

Well, they tried their Desperation Countdown Clock. Now they are known as The Company That Cried Wolf.

The next countdown, and everyone will just roll their eyes.
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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2010, 02:28:17 pm »

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I wouldn't agree with that as I think both formats have had lots of improvements.  Definitely lots of improvements to the MF cameras and backs over the last couple years.  MFDB went from being able to shoot up to ISO 200 usable to 1600 for one example, color rendering has improved, and the responsiveness of the cameras has gotten better as well.  Many new lenses have been introduced for a number of the different platforms.
and in this particular model the recompose AF. If it works flawlessly it's certainly a very helpful feature
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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2010, 02:29:15 pm »

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it will be a FF ?

According to the official Hasselblad datasheet, it the H4D-60 will be

40.2×53.7mm

Which is not 6 * 4.5, but is is fairly close, and bigger than the image circle of their wide-angle zoom.
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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2010, 03:56:51 pm »

thanks
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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2010, 04:48:14 pm »

4.5 minute exposure. Well, there still is hope for Hasselblad.
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« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2010, 05:05:17 pm »

$20,000 US is high, despite the wonderful advances in technology.
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« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2010, 05:14:58 pm »

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4.5 minute exposure. Well, there still is hope for Hasselblad.
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I agree  , I hope they have changed the batteries too
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« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2010, 05:17:03 pm »

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Canon, Nikon, Sony, JVC, Panasonic, RED are and will be the companies making what we NEED and WANT.

RED is not at all what I want
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« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2010, 05:27:11 pm »

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MF digital is destined for only wealthy hobbyists and landscapers (but the last time I checked that wasn't really a money making genre) in the next few years mainly because working photographers who shoot for clients will have to use cameras which shoot stills and video interchangeably and better than the hybrid muck my 5DII is now.

Oddly, I think the vast majority of the people now buying MF cameras made their money in other ways, and this is their playtime, to go on vacation, or on safari, with their new precision device that they saved for. Nothing wrong with that, other than it's just very bizarre. It's as though the paper specs of the camera is more important than how it actually performs in the field.

Would be like all the weekend warrior homeowners with new 24 ounce framing hammers, and all the 9-to-5 full time carpenters are out there driving nails with bricks and rocks.

Surreal.
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2010, 05:35:17 pm »

that hd4 40 was pretty desperate at 13000$ but at 20000$ it is just ....strange....

i don't care how much they will push the file....shoot it at 1600, and just use the sliders for some more noise and gunk....none of these CCDs are usable over 400 does not matter if it is hasselblad, leaf, phase or sinar.....or leica!

the whole countdown thing is a little sad as well....everybody pretty much knew what was coming and the only surprise is the price.....

i don't get it: try and put out  H4 30, 33x44 sensor, 30mpix, hokus, phocus, schnockus and locus, who cares about 1600, everybody already has a canon/nikon....make it shoot fast, easy and clean files at 100 and 200......under 10000$ incl. lens....i still would not buy it, but someone who needs that extra quality might.....but then again...they are better off with the top of the line hass/phase/whatever anyway....

totally unrelated...but not really...olympus comes out with their new pen.....they put in a flash, fix the focus (that would be called listening to what the market wants), still looks great and drop the price by 25%......unrelated because no DMF company seems to be able to do anything like that....
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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2010, 07:03:44 pm »

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that hd4 40 was pretty desperate at 13000$ but at 20000$ it is just ....strange....

i don't care how much they will push the file....shoot it at 1600, and just use the sliders for some more noise and gunk....none of these CCDs are usable over 400 does not matter if it is hasselblad, leaf, phase or sinar.....or leica!

the whole countdown thing is a little sad as well....everybody pretty much knew what was coming and the only surprise is the price.....

i don't get it: try and put out  H4 30, 33x44 sensor, 30mpix, hokus, phocus, schnockus and locus, who cares about 1600, everybody already has a canon/nikon....make it shoot fast, easy and clean files at 100 and 200......under 10000$ incl. lens....i still would not buy it, but someone who needs that extra quality might.....but then again...they are better off with the top of the line hass/phase/whatever anyway....

totally unrelated...but not really...olympus comes out with their new pen.....they put in a flash, fix the focus (that would be called listening to what the market wants), still looks great and drop the price by 25%......unrelated because no DMF company seems to be able to do anything like that....


Not everybody has or wants a Canon or Nikon. I certainly don't but I still have the need for higher ISO and speed. Might be a interesting read . I'm avoiding the 35mm like the plague, i don't want two systems. After this gig I gave up all thoughts of a 35mm system completely . If I need it than I will rent them.

http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13379
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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2010, 08:15:03 pm »

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After this gig I gave up all thoughts of a 35mm system completely .


You can live in the past, present, or future.

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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2010, 08:22:44 pm »

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« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2010, 08:31:20 pm »

BC, That is Fantastic!
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« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2010, 08:40:10 pm »

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BC, That is Fantastic!


I didn't shoot it, It was sent to me by a client for a campaign in the works.

Still, this is just the beginning of where photography can go and it can go to more than just pixels, sharpness or a gimmick.

I don't care bout' cameras, don't care about selling cameras, I just don't want a camera to get in the way.

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