1st Press Day at the NY Auto Show

[boku]

These are very graphic. You have vision. I really like what you're doing.

Now - please share your technique for the "on the verge" saturation. It is intense without being blown out. If you could, how about sharing your approach to exposure and post-processing. I would very much appreciate it.

Thanks,
Bob

[CJD]

So what's the camera...you can only keep us guessing for so long....

Disposable?
Frames from a camcorder?

Am I being stupid?

 

Cheers

Chris

[Howard Smith]

I agree that it is difficult to be "picky" about subjects in public places.  You frequently have to take things as you find them.  However, that approach can sometimes (usually?) leads to photos that look like snap shots, grab shots or what I call "drive by shootings."  My point is a photographer might want to  be "picky" about the prints that go on display.  I thought the images were rather ordinary.  If the purpose of the exercise was to display your use of PhotoShop or the superior qualites of the camera, maybe they are better than I would give credit for.

[Howard Smith]

I couldn't not care less what camera he used.  That is totally irrelevant.  It is my opinion that the photos are all that matter and these look like snap shots.  If that's nasty, then I'm guilty.  

"... to H*ll with the lot of them."

Now, that is nasty.

[Howard Smith]

Bob, I was not interfering with your seeking to find out something.  I  don't have a "bug up my arse," and I am not shouting.  I used my real name.

You too are entitled to your opinion.

[Shivz]

I visited the NY Auto Show on it's first Press day (4/7/04). I ran into a few photographers, mostly on 1D or 10D. These shots are presented here for your viewing pleasure.

You can find the rest at this link.

http://www.k12rs.com/ny_auto_show

Cheers, S

[Shivz]

Thank you very much.

Sorry my site is down for a few hours, that's why the pictures aren't showing right now.  They should pop back up by Saturday evening (NE-US).

Cheers, S

[Shivz]

Thanks Bob, I'll share the info with you in a little while, but for now, who can guess the kind I camera I used for all of these auto show images?   S :cool:

[Shivz]

they have made monday morning work seem bearable...

Thanks, This is a very nice comment, it made my morning.  Cheers, S

Ohh, as for the camera, you are getting closer....

[Howard Smith]

Specular surfaces like automobiles, reflect the light source so you "see" them in the image.  The usual auto technique is a very large diffused light source(s) to give large flowing non-specular highlights to show shape.  The specular reflections of the overhead lights and other mirrored artifacts give away the location.

[Shivz]

Howard, There is no secret about the location. These are shots from a public, large scale show.  

As for the camera:
I used my pocket-able, 3.2mp, point and shoot Sony P5, handheld.  With a lot of help from PS.

The color saturation with its "vivid" quality is done purely by using USM at 70%/70/0.  Aggressive to say the least, plus contrast and color adjustments and very little cropping....

The images from this tiny camera is sub par, but a good PS tweak, specially for 500pixel viewing IMO can greatly improve most images.

Now the naughty little secret is out!!!!

I shoot mainly film and am in the market for a D-SLR, but that little Sony has helped me a lot in the past 3 years.  I even shoot models with it...  Cheers, S

[Shivz]

Howard, Thanks again.  It's hard to be too picky shooting at public shows.  I thought the glass roof at Javits Center provided an interesting touch--like special effect.  The cars shown in the indoor arena as in the Grey Ford Cobra concept only show reflections of spot lights.  Those shots required more work to bring out the saturation quality that i was looking for, and I don't think that they work as well as the others. S

[boku]

CJD, everyone is entitled to an opinion.  Frankly, I find "amazing images, truly beautiful and inspiring." no more helpful than "they look like ordinary snap shots."

It isn't because I am American that I find your crude remarks nasty.  Being crude reflects only on you, not me.

I have noticed something about this site.  When someone posts photographs and gets gushy reviews with no substance, everything is fine.  But when someone has the nerve to say they don't like the photos and even provides a reason, the fur usually flies.  A wise man once advised me, "Don't ask how you are doing.  Someone might tell you."

Dude, let it go already.

I asked how this was achieved, I found out. In the process something of value was exchanged. I am grateful.

You come in with a bug up your arse and turn this into a shouting match. Is that how you really want to go through life? Does your anonymity allow you to be a jerk with no regrets?

Get a life already.

[Bobtrips]

Shivz -

Now that you've revealed the camera used it may be that people aren't as impressed with the photos.    

Maybe you should paste a red dot on the front of your Sony....  :p

[CJD]

Hey Shivz

My advice: to H*ll with the lot of them.

I STILL think those images are something rather special.  I don't care what camera you took them on (no I tell a lie, in fact I'm even more impressed).

Don't let the pixel peeping and gear snobbery get you down.

And it still made my morning!

Keep it up

Chris

And finally to Howard: - was there a need to be so thoroughly nasty?

[Shivz]

Thanks Chris...  

and to Howard, I didn't claim for these images to be anything but snap shots. Snap shots are what event photographers take.  Basically you point and you shoot in available light, sometimes you use a mounted flash but that's pretty much it.  These images, I think, should be judged based on these simple facts: event images, handheld with a tiny pocketable digital camera and post-processed in PS.  Now if I would have posted studio shots of these cars, with proper light and gear, IMO, then you're point would have had more merit.

Cheers, S

[CJD]

Howard,

Compliment
Critique
Criticism
Opinion

All different

I chose to compliment as I really enjoyed the images and they were unlike anything I had seen in my very limited experience (obviously compared to your good self).  

Bug or no bug, your postings here and elsewhere on the site speak for themselves.  Let the numerous readers of this thread decide.

Anyways, thanks for the entertainment.

And I’ve had a play with the USM 70-70-0.  It gives some interesting results.

So thanks to Shiv for a few things learnt.

And thanks to Boku for bringing some real world sense to it all.


And I still think that the objectives of this site should be to:

Inspire, Educate, Encourage



Cheers

Chris

(aka Mr Nasty)

[Edward]

Wow!

Not what I expected. Darn good work. Looks like studio stuff.... Wow!

[CJD]

Hi Shivz

Amazing images, truly beautiful and inspiring.

As to camera and processing........

I'm double guessing from your use of language and reference to 1D & 10D, that you are playing Michael R's game here (which is a good thing).  I think one of two options - either film or a (inexpensive?) digicam (both tripod mounted to get that incredible DOF).

OTOH - it could be $30,000 plus of the most expensive kit available to modern man (or woman).

But then - what the #### do I know....

Once again, thanks for sharing these images - they have made monday morning work seem bearable...

Chris

[Howard Smith]

I know the location is no secret.  You provided that information.  I was just pointing out that that is what they look like.  You captured the specular lights and window panes in the skylight on the paint quite well.  Except for perhaps one, I just wasn't sure that was the effect you wanted.  I stand corrected, and thanks.