Topic: New Nikon Body and Lenses (Read 6110 times)

DarkPenguin · « **on:** January 28, 2008, 11:30:48 pm »

Check out www.dpreview.com for info.

There is a new 24mm TS lens. A few others.

The new D60 body looks like a tarted up D40x. Not entirely certain what is different about it. Must be cost reduced or something.

Anywho.

TMcCulley · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2008, 12:56:31 am »

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Check out www.dpreview.com for info.

There is a new 24mm TS lens. A few others.

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According to the Nikon Press release this is the first of three new perspective control lens that they are introducing this year. Specs look very good the price $1,924 seems a little high but this is a very specialized lens.

Tom

PS and yes I want one.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:13:02 am »

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Check out www.dpreview.com for info.

There is a new 24mm TS lens. A few others.
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T/S lenses are finally becoming a credible option on DSLR thanks to live view.

Nikon has been doing a good jod a closing the gap with Canon these past 6 months, give us a few fast primes and things will become really interesting...

Assuming Nikon will be releasing a 24MP body by the Photokina, the 24 mm shifted 10 mm both ways will enable to do a 2 images flat stitch that will be 36x44 mm at about 40 MP. I could see myself using this on a regular basis.

Cheers,
Bernard

jd1566 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:30:23 am »

Yes, I thnk that Nikon has done some serious soul searching and looked at their gaps in their line-up.. They have plugged some serious holes between last year and PMA now. VR for Telephotos, a FF camera, and now T/S lenses.
Very good!
They want their nr 1 spot, and at this rate they are almost sure to re-gain it. It feels like a "shock and awe" campaign! :-) Poor Canon.. they must wake up sometime soon.. Nikon has taken the game to them BIG TIME.. Unfortunately I fear that Canon's reaction time is long.. and that they are more likely to stick to their planned strategy instead of revolutionizing their camera business.. or even keeping up the pace of innovation and upgrading of their lens and camera lineup.
That's the problem when you make photocopiers and printers and industrial products.. you can't keep focus (pun intended!). Still, I think there WILL be a reaction..sometime..
.. just not too soon!

In the mean time congrats to Nikon.. they are really shaping up!

timhurst · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2008, 06:58:49 am »

Assuming they release a D3x all they'll then need is something along the lines of the 5d (the perfect backup body) and they'll have the perfect system.

Marsupilami · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:24:04 am »

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Assuming they release a D3x all they'll then need is something along the lines of the 5d (the perfect backup body) and they'll have the perfect system. Nikon are making me drool really quite badly
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Just tested the Canon 1Ds Mark III and while the camera itself can make very good high resolution pictures, the Canon lens lineup in the Wide Angle sucks a lot. The new expensive 14 mm L II is okay, the 17-40 a pain to use and even the 24-70 has some nasty problems in the corners. The 24 TSE I had to send back (tested on the 5D) because the picture quality was a bad joke. Many of these lenses are old designs of the film age, they where very good with film, some are still very good in the digital age (mainly the Tele). For me the conclusion was either stay with my Canon Equipment (5D and 40 D) or if I want to go the high resolution route I have to change to Nikon, as the Canon lenses are not worth the investment. I know that Nikon lenses are usable on Canon via adapter but that does not make much sense in the long run. Nikon is really starting the digital age of photography new and seems to do it with the most important thing: with lenses that are capable to fulfill the demands of high resolution full frame sensors.
You can find some pictures at my website, sorry the article is in German, maybe I find time to translate it in the next days.

[a href=\"http://www.christianhandl.com/Unterebene1/Gedankensplitter/erfahrungen_canon_1ds_mark_iii.htm]http://www.christianhandl.com/Unterebene1/...ds_mark_iii.htm[/url]

free1000 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:28:46 am »

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I know that Nikon lenses are usable on Canon via adapter but that does not make much sense in the long run.

It makes sense to me as I have a lot of investment in Canon already. Plus one has the option to adapt all sorts of other lenses onto the EOS platform. When doing critical work with the TS, I wouldn't mind stop down metering... though I'd prefer that Canon produce a better 24TS.

Keep in mind the sample variation with the TS 24. I have a very good one, and they do exist.

TMcCulley · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:07:44 am »

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Assuming Nikon will be releasing a 24MP body by the Photokina, the 24 mm shifted 10 mm both ways will enable to do a 2 images flat stitch that will be 36x44 mm at about 40 MP. I could see myself using this on a regular basis.

Cheers,
Bernard
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Bernard,

The press release indicated 2 more. What do you think they will be? A replacement for the 85 maybe and longer or somewhere in the middle?

I think I will start saving up for the 24
Tom

GregW · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:34:00 am »

A PC-E Micro Nikkor 45mm f/2.8D ED and a PC-E Micro Nikkor 85mm f/2.8D ED according to Rob Galbraith. http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...cid=7-9206-9244

JeffKohn · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2008, 01:41:51 pm »

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T/S lenses are finally becoming a credible option on DSLR thanks to live view.

I agree, with LiveView critical focus is much easier to achieve and you also have the benefit of being able to preview the Tilt, zooming in to check different areas of the image. It's been surprising to me just how useful LiveView is on a DSLR.

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Assuming Nikon will be releasing a 24MP body by the Photokina, the 24 mm shifted 10 mm both ways will enable to do a 2 images flat stitch that will be 36x44 mm at about 40 MP. I could see myself using this on a regular basis.

Yeah, D3x plus the three new T/S lenses is pretty much a Nikon landscape photog's dream come true. In addition to simple 1x2 stitches, these lenses also make it possible to to 1x3 or 2x2 for even more resolution, although composing is more difficult for the 2x2 stitch.

The only downside is it's not truly "flat" stitching, because parallax can be an issue (and will be with the 24mm, I think). It would be nice if these lenses had a tripod collar/foot so we could keep the lens stationary and shift the camera.

luong · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2008, 01:51:02 pm »

Canon's quality control is indeed terrible, and there is a lot of sample to sample variation. The Canon 24TSE is not one of their sharpest lenses (some of their zooms do better at 24), but it is nevertheless decent, and certainly not a "joke". It had the merit to exist for more than a decade - during which time Nikon users had just a 28 shift without tilt and auto-aperture - but there is almost no doubt that a newer and more expensive Nikon will perform better.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:30:25 pm »

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Bernard,

The press release indicated 2 more. What do you think they will be? A replacement for the 85 maybe and longer or somewhere in the middle?

I think I will start saving up for the 24
Tom
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They will be a 45 f2.8 T/S and a new 85 f2.8 T/S that does indeed appear to be a replacement for the current 85 mm T/S.

Cheers,
Bernard

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2008, 07:32:47 pm »

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The only downside is it's not truly "flat" stitching, because parallax can be an issue (and will be with the 24mm, I think). It would be nice if these lenses had a tripod collar/foot so we could keep the lens stationary and shift the camera.
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Just use a RRS L bracket and shift the camera the same distance you shifted the lens, but opposite direction. If you are accurate enough, you'll get true flat stitching in a matter of seconds.

I used to do this from time to time with an old 28 mm shift lens on my D2x.

Cheers,
Bernard

stever · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:08:46 pm »

i hope Nikon has learned from the Canon TS lenses and opened up the image circle a bit and a little more tilt and shift - that would sell some cameras

jeffok · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2008, 09:15:59 pm »

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T/S lenses are finally becoming a credible option on DSLR thanks to live view.

Nikon has been doing a good jod a closing the gap with Canon these past 6 months, give us a few fast primes and things will become really interesting...

Assuming Nikon will be releasing a 24MP body by the Photokina, the 24 mm shifted 10 mm both ways will enable to do a 2 images flat stitch that will be 36x44 mm at about 40 MP. I could see myself using this on a regular basis.

Cheers,
Bernard
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T/S lenses are "finally becoming credible"? What do you mean by that? They have been in use by many pros for years. I don't think the digital era has anything to do with their credibility. Perhaps you mean that they are easier to use with digital due to the instant feedback.

As for a 24MP Nikon, I personally doubt it. The photosites would be very small indeed, probably smaller than the 40D and besides, I think Nikon with the D3 and Canon with the 5D have proven that 20+ MP only gives you an incremental improvement in IQ over a 12 MP sensor. Personally, I just added a 1Ds Mark III to my camera stable but I would hesitate to say it is a huge step up from the 16MP in the 1Ds II.

Jeff

PSA DC-9-30 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2008, 11:43:05 pm »

Not to start the whole debate about four-thirds again, but I wonder whether Olympus will be left behind here, at very least in pixel count. Will they ever produce a 20+ MP dSLR? For that matter, since there are new Canon XSi and Nikon D60 bodies recently released, will there be a new E-510 replacement, or perhaps something between the E-3 and E-510?? Thoughts?

bob mccarthy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2008, 10:06:40 am »

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T/S lenses are "finally becoming credible"? What do you mean by that? They have been in use by many pros for years. I don't think the digital era has anything to do with their credibility. Perhaps you mean that they are easier to use with digital due to the instant feedback.

As for a 24MP Nikon, I personally doubt it. The photosites would be very small indeed, probably smaller than the 40D and besides, I think Nikon with the D3 and Canon with the 5D have proven that 20+ MP only gives you an incremental improvement in IQ over a 12 MP sensor. Personally, I just added a 1Ds Mark III to my camera stable but I would hesitate to say it is a huge step up from the 16MP in the 1Ds II.

Jeff
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Maybe the problem is not the sensor but the lens IQ.

[a href=\"http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/nikon_14_24mm_1/nikon14_24mm_a.html]http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/nikon_14_24...n14_24mm_a.html[/url]

Agree with you about T/S lenses. As a 4x5 shooter, I am really excited by announcements. For the first time I can see retiring the Technika.

bob

bob mccarthy · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2008, 10:11:50 am »

oopps this was the test with the 1Dsmk3, the other was with a 5D.

http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/nikon1424_1...1424_17mm1.html

Bob

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