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What's the name of your DB?

Hasselblad
- 43 (16.2%)
Imacon
- 7 (2.6%)
Phase One
- 102 (38.5%)
Sinar
- 36 (13.6%)
Leaf
- 62 (23.4%)
Mamiya
- 8 (3%)
Other
- 7 (2.6%)

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« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2007, 10:02:36 pm »

Aptus 65 Hassy H2
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« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2007, 06:08:33 am »

Leaf Valeo 17 on Hassy V
Hasselblad H3D39

Did not vote.

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« Reply #82 on: November 19, 2007, 08:34:11 am »

DB: Susan (aka P30+ on H1)
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« Reply #83 on: November 19, 2007, 04:21:52 pm »

Aptus 22 on Mamiya AFDII
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« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2007, 06:50:09 pm »

Phase One P45+
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« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2007, 09:00:35 pm »

P45+
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« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2007, 09:29:13 pm »

P45+ on H1

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« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2007, 11:00:04 pm »

P30+ - CONTAX
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« Reply #88 on: November 20, 2007, 08:34:00 am »

Interesting.

It would also be interesting to see if there is a different distribution for different regions (read continents).

Something else. Hope I didn't make a mistake while counting (ten fingers get you only so far )

From those who voted only a certain percentage replied:

Hassy 12 = 63%
Imacon 1 = 100%
Phase 31 = 59%
Sinar 11 = 79%
Leaf 31 = 90%
Mamiya 5 = 100%

The Phase guys seem to be a bit shy

Other interesting things (IMHO), but not statistically relevant.

From those replying there were 4 users using two backs of the same brand
1 Phase, 2 Sinar and 1 Leaf users.
And 4 users useing backs from different brands.

1 user switched (Hassy to Phase)
1 user planning to switch (Leaf to Phase)
1 user willing to switch or add (not clear) from Leaf, adding a Sinar and a Hassy
3 user willing to buy a further Back and/or upgrade staying with the same brand  2 Sinar, 1 Leaf

I hope I didn't oversee anything.

regards
SH
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« Reply #89 on: November 20, 2007, 08:47:07 am »

Sold the A17. Currently have 2 Hassie\Imacon backs.

384 & CF39
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« Reply #90 on: November 20, 2007, 11:53:15 am »

A22 / H1

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« Reply #91 on: November 20, 2007, 02:06:02 pm »

mamiya afd II & Phase One P30+
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« Reply #92 on: November 20, 2007, 02:13:44 pm »

That was me, sorry for the confusion, I will be adding to the two leaf backs I already own. The studio is expanding. Yay.


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Interesting.

It would also be interesting to see if there is a different distribution for different regions (read continents).

Something else. Hope I didn't make a mistake while counting (ten fingers get you only so far )

From those who voted only a certain percentage replied:

Hassy 12 = 63%
Imacon 1 = 100%
Phase 31 = 59%
Sinar 11 = 79%
Leaf 31 = 90%
Mamiya 5 = 100%

The Phase guys seem to be a bit shy

Other interesting things (IMHO), but not statistically relevant.

From those replying there were 4 users using two backs of the same brand
1 Phase, 2 Sinar and 1 Leaf users.
And 4 users useing backs from different brands.

1 user switched (Hassy to Phase)
1 user planning to switch (Leaf to Phase)
1 user willing to switch or add (not clear) from Leaf, adding a Sinar and a Hassy
3 user willing to buy a further Back and/or upgrade staying with the same brand  2 Sinar, 1 Leaf

I hope I didn't oversee anything.

regards
SH
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« Reply #93 on: November 20, 2007, 02:34:28 pm »

Not to intentionally be a dick, but Steve Hendrix, where are your facts now? Based on the poll thus far it very closely mimics my experience and contradicts your 'facts'. If this isn't a valid cross section of pros and non pros worldwide I don't know what is.. Obviously 'sensor sales' are moot and I do believe my experience out weighs that of a salesman in Atlanta. Additionally, my experience is not from one market. Before moving to NY I was in Seattle and I have exposure to files and photographers from around the world.

I did not respond to your post before because I agree it doesn't warrant debate. However, you are wrong, as I originally stated.

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QUOTE(Anthony R @ Nov 17 2007, 06:16 PM)
Please show me. I live and work in the hardly arguable photographic capital of the world. What doesn't live here, comes through here on a regular basis from the rest of this country, western Europe and beyond.

I see more Leaf and Phase than anything else. I would say that in the last year or so I have been seeing more Phase than in the past and would guesstimate that it is around 50/50 Phase - Leaf. No others in the professional market that I have seen, and I have seen a lot. One could even go to all the rental outfits in NY and see what they carry and/or query the prepress and retouching boutiques.

I do see a lot of H1s, H2s, etc.

If you have different information I would like to see it.

My information is not from looking around and seeing who is using what. My information is from sources who are familiar with the volume of sensor purchases from the two manufacturers that supply them.

We don't have to turn this into a he said she said thing. I'm not going to argue about who has what market share. I'm just stating that I am confident of the numbers and that 1) looking around one city, and 2) considering one market does not tell the most accurate story.

I don't have a problem if this claim goes un-believed, and it doesn't need to be debated. I can understand being in a major photographic market and not seeing much Hasselblad and coming to that conclusion. But if someone gets slammed because they are stating something I know to be true, I'll defend their claim.

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« Reply #94 on: November 20, 2007, 02:47:56 pm »

I currently own a Sinar eMotion-75LV.
Waiting for the Hy6 to replace the 6008's.
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« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2007, 03:12:28 pm »

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If this isn't a valid cross section of pros and non pros worldwide I don't know what is.
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Can you please explain why you think THIS is a valid statement??

You're not serious, right?
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« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2007, 03:38:21 pm »

Yeah, why not:

25,850 registered users.

Members replying to this specific thread from: Sweden, Australia, Toronto, Missouri, Boston, Nashville, LA, Scotland, Singapore, Utah, Norway, Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Russia, UK, Mexico, AZ, CT, NY, S. Africa, Belgium, Ohio, Estonia, DC, Florida.

126 votes

What more do you want?

Hassy is 3rd, not #1

Would you prefer a closed, completely scientific poll where users who lie or can't prove the worth of their vote have the threat of bodily harm? What would make you happy?

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Can you please explain why you think THIS is a valid statement??

You're not serious, right?
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« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2007, 04:16:22 pm »

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Yeah, why not:

25,850 registered users.

Members replying to this specific thread from: Sweden, Australia, Toronto, Missouri, Boston, Nashville, LA, Scotland, Singapore, Utah, Norway, Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Russia, UK, Mexico, AZ, CT, NY, S. Africa, Belgium, Ohio, Estonia, DC, Florida.

126 votes

What more do you want?

Hassy is 3rd, not #1

Would you prefer a closed, completely scientific poll where users who lie or can't prove the worth of their vote have the threat of bodily harm? What would make you happy?
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C'mon. The only thing you can honestly surmise from this very informal poll is that it displays who is the most participatory group of respondents to the question - they are Phase owners, closely followed by Leaf owners. To say anything more makes it sound like you're try to push some sort of agenda.
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« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2007, 04:25:10 pm »

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C'mon. The only thing you can honestly surmise from this very informal poll is that it displays who is the most participatory group of respondents to the question - they are Phase owners, closely followed by Leaf owners. To say anything more makes it sound like you're try to push some sort of agenda.
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Ok. that's fine.

I don't really care. I do not believe that Hassy backs are #1 in the market. That's all. That might change. I may soon own a Hassy back. I also might not.. I might not due to the fact that they are trying to be Microsoft. I wish them luck, they make fine products, but I don't think they'll be the industry leader any time soon.

I really need to Tucker myself from this site. 90% is tech talk and pontification from gearheads. That's fine, but not for me.
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« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2007, 04:29:34 pm »

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C'mon. The only thing you can honestly surmise from this very informal poll is that it displays who is the most participatory group of respondents to the question - they are Phase owners, closely followed by Leaf owners. To say anything more makes it sound like you're try to push some sort of agenda.
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That's a ridiculous statement to make. People on this forum have a genuine interest in the issues being covered. Your suggestion is mere sophistry, and I agree with Anthony R that this is probably a fair reflection of distribution by back manufacturer. If you choose not to accept what you can clearly see with your own eyes, then fine.

BTW, I assume you don't own a Phase back? Correct?

(...and yes, I do own one. I am insulted that you are implying I am more likely to vote because I have a certain type of back. Does that mean Leaf owners care less about how they pursue their hobby / business than Phase owners? I think not.)
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