New 24" printer

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I know this is a totally subjective issue but I would still like to hear others thoughts.

I've had an Epson 24" printer before but when I sold my property i had to get rid of it.  I now have a facility where I can again have a large printer.

My first thoughts are either the Canon ImagePROGRAF Pro-2100 or the Epson SureColor p7000.

I know, I know, they both will produce excellent prints so the decision will be based on minutia (and I guess, availability).

Thanks for any helpful input.
Bill
 

[cyruspy]

I was looking for a similar machine. Last time I checked, the Epson machines are prone to clogging if you don't use them frequent enough.

So, if you have high volume printing, both are OK. If you seldom print, the Canon is better.

[JeanMichel]

I was looking for a similar machine. Last time I checked, the Epson machines are prone to clogging if you don't use them frequent enough.

So, if you have high volume printing, both are OK. If you seldom print, the Canon is better.

Not so sure about the clogging on newt Epson. I have a P6000 that only gets sporadic use and have not experienced clogs. I do run a nozzle check from time to time between actual print sessions   My daily printer is a P800 and that one also never clogs, but that one is used daily.

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I was in fact leaning toward the Canon because I have heard about the clogging issue before.  I my printing is sporadic.

I also heard from a Canon rep at the recent NANPA Summit that Canon has a factory reset function that resets everything back to the original settings.  This is used by paper manufacturers to reset the machine before they create a ICC Profile for the paper/printer.  This was a Canon Rep so I'm not sure how much this really applies to the "real world" but he made it sound good.
 

[Jeff Magidson]

I'll add my two cents:

I owned a canon IPF 8300 (44" wide) for several years. I bought this printer instead of an Epson because the Epson's we're prone to clogging and the Canon has nozzle redundancy/remapping. The Canon heads are also user replaceable.

The problem I ran into during the entire length of ownership  with the Canon was noticeable color drift. For example, let's say I had to print a job that consisted of (30) 24"x30" prints with considerable neutral areas in the print. During the run of printing I would notice that the neutrals would slightly shift in color. I would have to monitor this and sometimes modify the file as needed to get perfectly consistent output. If I printed an image and then went back to print the same image several months later, again I would notice some color drift (most notable in neutral areas) and would need to slightly modify the file for matching output. I think it was due to the heads remapping the nozzles and that would cause some color change.

Over the past 25 years I've owned many 17" wide Epson printers such as the 3880. I never experienced any color drift like I did with my Canon IPF 8300.

[NAwlins_Contrarian]

I owned a canon IPF 8300 (44" wide) for several years....

The problem I ran into during the entire length of ownership  with the Canon was noticeable color drift. For example, let's say I had to print a job that consisted of (30) 24"x30" prints with considerable neutral areas in the print. During the run of printing I would notice that the neutrals would slightly shift in color.... If I printed an image and then went back to print the same image several months later, again I would notice some color drift (most notable in neutral areas) .... I think it was due to the heads remapping the nozzles and that would cause some color change.

Does the iPF8300 have a self-linearizing system, and if so, did you try using it to prevent or mitigate this drift? My understanding is that all of the Canon Pro-x000 and Pro-x100 models can, at the touch of a few buttons, print and measure a special target and use it to re-linearize themselves. How necessary that is and how well it works seem like interesting issues. Re-linearizing is probably a more of a solution for two prints made from the same file when they're printed months apart, versus prints made minutes apart.

[Jeff Magidson]

"Does the iPF8300 have a self-linearizing system, and if so, did you try using it to prevent or mitigate this drift?"

That's a good question. I sold the printer about 8 1/2 years ago so I don't remember specifically everything that transpired. However, I do know that I looked into and tried everything I could as I was using the printer full time at my business and really into getting the most out of it producing high-quality prints for demanding clients.

I never had the same problem with my 17" wide Epson printers.