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Re: Leica Q3
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2025, 05:32:50 am »

Keith, you are, and have been an artist all your life. You could create magnificent pictures with a Box Brownie.

You and I both worked with Hasselblads for many years: I, fairly consistently, churned out commercial photographs where you, admittedly in other fields, produced works of beauty. The difference lies between our ears. That’s the reason the photographic world has always been divided, and that there are horses for courses.

Now I feel depressed. ;-)

But, Rob, you continue to produce works of great beauty, regardless of equipment, and now, all the remarkably, with a fone!

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« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2025, 06:03:20 am »

From a trip to Morocco last month. Palm Shadows. Leica Q3 43, ISO 100, f/5.6, 1/1250s.



Despite travelling with a Nikon Z7 and three Z mount lenses as back-up, the Nikon gear was never used. That said the Nikons do still see use for differing genre particularly when combined with longer focal length lenses.

The Q3 43 continues to delight as my walk-around camera.

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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2025, 10:25:08 am »

But, Rob, you continue to produce works of great beauty, regardless of equipment, and now, all the remarkably, with a fone!

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Keith

That’s very kind of you, Keith, but from where I sit, all I really see is the continuation of a kind of relatively recent photographic thread that’s not a lot more than a repetition of what I’ve already done. In a sense, it has turned into the same problem that beset me when I had my first studio, when that damned roll of white paper ended up controlling everything that I did.

In an attempt to escape it, and backed by the fact that the profitable bits of work eventually almost always came from location shoots, I let the place go. Of course, the need for studio space came back, and unlike London where, at that time, folks could rent studios by the hour, or whatever, that simply didn’t exist oop north. So, we had a studio built alongside our home, which from a planning permission perspective, had to be smaller, and never quite gave the freedom to light with greater spatial separation between things. However, it helped sell the house when we decided to move to Spain.

In retrospect, a massive error on my part was to destroy most of my negatives and trannies, simply because I saw no future connections with those old clients. What a huge boob that was! But, having written that, there was no Internet at the time, and I had never heard of a website. Art, as in photographic, was at best a New York aberration. It torments me to this day.

But yeah, repetition is such a downer on the desire to go back out and shoot. In a sense, it’s one of the several reasons - affordability aside - that always stops me from ponying up for new equipment: I fear ending up leaving it at home again. However, if I am still around when the new iPhone 17 arrives, and it really does have a different, better long lens set-up as has been suggested online, then yeah, I will probably buy it. Apart from anything else, I really could enjoy seeing stuff on a larger screen than my 13 Mini affords me.

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« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2025, 03:11:56 pm »

Rob, I wouldn't worry too much about repetition. More often than not I choose to work in series and generally see this a positive, a means to achieving a coherent body of work. I'm sure there are many who when viewing my work could see repetition in abundance, as do I.

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« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2025, 07:45:19 am »

Rob, I wouldn't worry too much about repetition. More often than not I choose to work in series and generally see this a positive, a means to achieving a coherent body of work. I'm sure there are many who when viewing my work could see repetition in abundance, as do I.

Repetition is dangerous. If we analyse it a little bit, it becomes difficult to avoid the conclusion that its best friend is a dormant imagination.

In my effort to avoid this conclusion, I began a new project and roped in poor old Moriyama as psuedo “influence” and, thus, the one to share the blame with me. I must say, for quite a while that managed to muffle my inner demons, but the little buggers are wise to it now, as they were, in the end, to the Leiter variation that played that game with me before. In my defence, I have to say that neither of those heroes was actually ripped off, as my endeavours were always going to be futile since I live in the polar opposite kind of location to either of them. I suppose that what I did manage to do in the case of Leiter was to get very familiar with pretty much all of the shop windows in Pollença and Puerto Pollensa. A benefit of that is that I have been able to notice just how many businesses fail, only to be replaced by other ones offering exactly the same old tourist tat. I might well be mistaken here, but it’s my opinion that the era for that rubbish is long past, that tourism has lost a lot its innocence; I can’t remember the last time I saw anybody selling soft donkeys or faux Mexican hats (I write faux, but as Spain and Mexico share much, perhaps those sombreros were real). Maybe those hats are now all for sale in Texas, instead, gently allowing Mr T an excuse for closing borders.

The sensible part of my brain tells me that it is essential that I keep on clicking, if only to retain some sort of discipline within my system, whereas the alternative part says no, you are defying logic here: why would you expend resources on things that you can only hope are going to be beneficial to you? Save your energies instead for wandering down to the local bar every morning for your glass of hot, heart-warming Lacao while you still have the chance; waste not, want not! In truth, my answer to these inner idiots is this: stay faithful to your iPhone and don’t risk muggings by carting around a heavy part of digital history. At least in this way, armed with that generally invisible tool, I can claim to be obeying one of my last-remembered articles of Scout Law: be prepared.
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Re: Leica Q3
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2025, 09:03:55 am »

Rob, I think we maybe talking at cross purposes.

It seems likely to me that you are highlighting the downside of repetition, in particular regarding the influence of third parties on your own work, whereas I'm commenting on repetition within my own work.

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« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2025, 11:38:46 am »

Rob, I think we maybe talking at cross purposes.

It seems likely to me that you are highlighting the downside of repetition, in particular regarding the influence of third parties on your own work, whereas I'm commenting on repetition within my own work.


Yes, point taken, but in my case, I think I am alarmed by my repetition of my own stuff, as I currently see and attempt to express it through the prism of two heroes; why should I be doing this? To add a form of self-inflicted misery, I am aware that this is something that seems reserved to my now photography, in the sense that when I was shooting professionally, the last thing I would have done was try to work from within another’s mindset or style. Frankly, that would have been far too difficult without access to the same surrounding conditions as the original would have enjoyed - or suffered, as the case might have been. Of course, the then understood folly of trying to do that seems, in a way, to have been set aside now, as a retired old guy who embarked upon his two themes whilst still as distant from the sources of the works of Leiter and Moriyama as he was from Avedon or Demarchelier back in the day. I guess it’s called masochism. ;-)

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« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2025, 05:46:03 am »

Apart from anything else, I really could enjoy seeing stuff on a larger screen than my 13 Mini affords me.
I guess you know you can show the photos of your phone on any recent television through WIFI.
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« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2025, 11:44:51 am »

I guess you know you can show the photos of your phone on any recent television through WIFI.

Hi, yes, I remember doing that once with my website, looking at it on my “smart” Samsung tv, which renders documentaries and movies quite beautifully. Sadly, the website images looked dreadful, which horrified me. The monitor I was using at the time, with the help of which I made the website pictures, was calibrated; I simply don’t understand how that could happen, that only my website could look so contrasty on the tv, and everything else seen on it appear normal. If the website also looked far too contrast on my iPad and iPhone, then yeah, I’d conclude my files were bad, but they look fine on those two Apple screens. Strange.

I tend to think that I carry some kind of ancient anti-tech curse on my shoulder; possibly it’s the weight of all those giants I have absorbed.
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« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2025, 05:35:55 am »

Hi, yes, I remember doing that once with my website, looking at it on my “smart” Samsung tv, which renders documentaries and movies quite beautifully. Sadly, the website images looked dreadful, which horrified me. The monitor I was using at the time, with the help of which I made the website pictures, was calibrated; I simply don’t understand how that could happen, that only my website could look so contrasty on the tv, and everything else seen on it appear normal. If the website also looked far too contrast on my iPad and iPhone, then yeah, I’d conclude my files were bad, but they look fine on those two Apple screens. Strange.

I tend to think that I carry some kind of ancient anti-tech curse on my shoulder; possibly it’s the weight of all those giants I have absorbed.

I had a Samsung once but now i am stuck to LG. Their TV's are better in color and better calibrated. My TV matches with the print on the wall .
for watching films they have a 'directors mode' that leaves the original input untouched.
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Re: Leica Q3
« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2025, 08:21:18 am »

Hi, yes, I remember doing that once with my website, looking at it on my “smart” Samsung tv, which renders documentaries and movies quite beautifully. Sadly, the website images looked dreadful, which horrified me. The monitor I was using at the time, with the help of which I made the website pictures, was calibrated; I simply don’t understand how that could happen, that only my website could look so contrasty on the tv, and everything else seen on it appear normal. If the website also looked far too contrast on my iPad and iPhone, then yeah, I’d conclude my files were bad, but they look fine on those two Apple screens. Strange...

Rob, the simplest answer is: adjust your TV! I can seamlessly transfer my pictures from the desktop to iPhone to TV and they all look identical. Why? Because I adjusted my TV controls to match my desktop.

TVs in stores are adjusted to show incredible contrast and saturation, such that would put Velvia to shame... that impresses, apparently, the masses.

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« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2025, 04:52:06 pm »

Rob, the simplest answer is: adjust your TV! I can seamlessly transfer my pictures from the desktop to iPhone to TV and they all look identical. Why? Because I adjusted my TV controls to match my desktop.

TVs in stores are adjusted to show incredible contrast and saturation, such that would put Velvia to shame... that impresses, apparently, the masses.

But, if I adjust the tv, which looks perfectly nice with transmitted programmes, that will throw out the currently good viewing standard that I get with those productions. That said, all I watch is the national news and the occasional documentary.

Regarding your comment about stores: it’s amazing how different a row of tv sets manages to look! You’d think the first thing the shops would do would be to get their techie guy try and set them to look equally good! Some I have seen look terrible! There should be a market for tv screen calibrators…

I noticed some time ago that perceived screen sizes can fool one. One evening, slouched on the couch, iPad in lap, I realised that the screen of the tv, some four metres away, appeared no larger than the screen on the small iPad. Years ago, I’d have been concerned about anything electronic, capable of receiving radiation, sitting next to the family jewels. How things change. ;-(

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Just noticed that my later iPad now looks as if the screen size is double the tv one at the same four-meter distance!
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Re: Leica Q3
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2025, 05:53:16 pm »

Palm Shade, Morocco. Leica Q3 43, ISO 100, f/5.6, 1/500s.

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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2025, 08:44:54 am »

Hello, Harry! ;-)

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« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2025, 09:22:15 am »

Bonjour, hallo ;-)

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« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2025, 01:34:19 pm »

Palm Shade, Morocco. Leica Q3 43, ISO 100, f/5.6, 1/500s.



I don't often comment on photos but I have to applaud this one.
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« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2025, 04:15:35 pm »

Mike, many thanks, very much appreciated!

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« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2025, 01:19:04 pm »

Berber Fruit Seller, Morocco. Leica Q3 43, ISO 100, f/2, 1/500s.

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« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2025, 03:29:14 pm »

When using the simplified version of the DoF equations (valid on non-macro applications where focal length << focus distance), the effect of focus distance cancels in the equations and the equivalent DoF of the crop can be easily calculated multiplying the f-number by the native/cropped focal length ratio:



By applying this approximation to the Leica Q3 (Summilux 28mm f/1.7) crop modes we get the following equivalent DoF's:
  • 35mm crop (39Mpx): 1.7*35/28=2.1 -> the crop's DoF is equivalent to a 35mm f/2.1
  • 50mm crop (19Mpx): 1.7*50/28=3.0 -> the crop's DoF is equivalent to a 50mm f/3.0
  • 75mm crop (8Mpx): 1.7*75/28=4.6 -> the crop's DoF is equivalent to a 75mm f/4.6
  • 90mm crop (6Mpx): 1.7*90/28=5.5 -> the crop's DoF is equivalent to a 90mm f/5.5

Regards
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« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2025, 02:46:53 pm »

Palm Shade, Morocco. Leica Q3 43, ISO 100, f/5.6, 1/500s.




Outstanding photograph Keith. 

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