Lighroon Cropping Advice . Options?

[Michael West]

Is the some secret arcane option to allow cropping to be done while images are displayed at a size  somewhat larger than a postage stamp ?



Thank you

[Stephen G]

Nope, but get rid of the sidebars and top and bottom bars too, and go fullscreen. This maximizes the size of your image when cropping.

[mcbroomf]

Make sure you have Fit Screen selected as well.  Not sure why you are getting a small image (only with crop tool?).  I don't see a change in size when I select crop ...

[Rand47]

Good advice re hitting tab key to get rid of side-bars… and you can also hit the “L” key for “lights out” while cropping which I find helps as well.

Rand

[Michael West]

Make sure you have Fit Screen selected as well.  Not sure why you are getting a small image (only with crop tool?).  I don't see a change in size when I select crop ...

when Im cropping a large image....to produce one that's less than an eightr the size of the original...its like changing a tire with chopsticks....

the image remains at the FILL size....even for those instances when It will be cropped severely

[BobShaw]

Cropping in Lightroom is poor. You should be able to specify the crop size in pixels and also the X and y values of the start point on the image like Aperture and Raw Power.

[mcbroomf]

when Im cropping a large image....to produce one that's less than an eightr the size of the original...its like changing a tire with chopsticks....

the image remains at the FILL size....even for those instances when It will be cropped severely

Ahh yes I see that now (I don't really do crops of that magnitude).

Can you wait to do the crop in ACR?  ie do your LR processing, maybe even with a rough crop in LR, then open as a smart object in PS and then use ACR where you can re-adjust your crop.  ACR does not have those limitations.  You can change the % size and the fit works (to fit the crop not the whole image).

Hopefully those attributes will make their way to LR some day.

[digitaldog]

Cropping in Lightroom is poor. You should be able to specify the crop size in pixels and also the X and y values of the start point on the image like Aperture and Raw Power.

Specific pixels don't exist until the raw is rendered (on export). Adobe Camera Raw is no different. Neither are pixel editors!
You can specify this way:

[PeterAit]

Is the some secret arcane option to allow cropping to be done while images are displayed at a size  somewhat larger than a postage stamp ?



Thank you

Get a monitor that is bigger than a postcard? 

[BobShaw]

Specific pixels don't exist until the raw is rendered (on export). Adobe Camera Raw is no different. Neither are pixel editors!
You can specify this way:

I am not talking about export size, I am talking about crop size and location on the full size image.
You can't specify it. It is as simple as that.

[digitaldog]

I am not talking about export size, I am talking about crop size and location on the full size image.
You can't specify it.

You've missed my point: Pixels are only defined at Export. Lightroom Classic and Adobe Camera Raw are not pixel editors. Which is why they don't allow you to do what you're asking for. You can of course, upon export.
Or once rendered from Adobe Camera Raw within Photoshop.

[BobShaw]

You've missed my point: Pixels are only defined at Export. Lightroom Classic and Adobe Camera Raw are not pixel editors. Which is why they don't allow you to do what you're asking for. You can of course, upon export.
Or once rendered from Adobe Camera Raw within Photoshop.

No, you are ignoring my point.  Users can and do specify pixel size of a crop on almost every other programme. It is a basic requirement.
This picture proves it.
Here the full size image of some 8000 pixels is cropped to a size of 3000 odd pixels. Normally I use preset sizes and it just does it. Crops can change aspect ratio or just highlight one area of an image.
The export size may be way smaller. Exports don't change aspect ratio.
Anyway, what does it matter if you don't understand a user requirement don't worry.

[digitaldog]

No, you are ignoring my point.  Users can and do specify pixel size of a crop on almost every other programme. It is a basic requirement.
This picture proves it.

Afraid not. Not in any Adobe raw converter. Until render and export.
In Adobe pixel editors yes. After rendering into pixels.
If you don't like these facts:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/how-do-i-write-a-feature-request/idi-p/12386378

[digitaldog]

This the ONLY data Lightroom Classic knows about pixels from the raw, as shown: based on the crop.
IF you export the full size raw, (you do not alter as shown in the resize options within Export), that's exactly how many pixels you get.
Anything else pixel wise, not from the full resolution raw however isn't shown, can't be shown, can't be known until it is defined at export.
Simple.

[BobShaw]

Afraid not. Not in any Adobe raw converter. Until render and export.

Agreed, as I say Adobe is shit at cropping.
However any other catalogue based programme can do this.

I may put a feature request in but it would be ignored so I just keep using something else.
(I just went to post this and it warned that you had posted successive posts. You need to let it goooooooo.)

[Rhossydd]

Cropping is a feature that could well be enhanced in Lightroom to match it's competitors.

Other raw convertors (DXO PL & CO as examples) do offer the ability to zoom in when cropping to allow higher precision than LR/ACR and they do offer pixel dimensions too. I'd be surprised if this hasn't been a feature request for LR in the past.

[digitaldog]

Agreed, as I say Adobe is shit at cropping.
However any other catalogue based programme can do this.

I may put a feature request in but it would be ignored so I just keep using something else.
(I just went to post this and it warned that you had posted successive posts. You need to let it goooooooo.)

Lightroom has been around since 2006; get moving (or find another product).

[digitaldog]

I'd be surprised if this hasn't been a feature request for LR in the past.

Again:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/how-do-i-write-a-feature-request/idi-p/12386378
And it's more than just making a request; it needs a lot of upvotes. So where are they?
"There are times in life when, instead of complaining, you do something about your complaints." - Rita Dove

[mcbroomf]

Cropping is a feature that could well be enhanced in Lightroom to match it's competitors.

Other raw convertors (DXO PL & CO as examples) do offer the ability to zoom in when cropping to allow higher precision than LR/ACR and they do offer pixel dimensions too. I'd be surprised if this hasn't been a feature request for LR in the past.

You can zoom in to the cropped section in ACR, as mentioned above.  Can't specify pixel dimensions though

[jrsforums]

Is the some secret arcane option to allow cropping to be done while images are displayed at a size  somewhat larger than a postage stamp ?



Thank you

One, not so ‘secret’, way is to use a 2nd monitor in loupe view.  As you crop in monitor 1, the resulting crop is shown in full on 2nd.

Personally, I do not understand your, later stated, need for direct pixel size cropping (unless I misunderstand).  I crop for image content and aspect ratio, not number of pixels in any one direction.  Maybe you could explain why you need that.