Lighroon Cropping Advice . Options?

[BobShaw]

Let’s not get into ‘bashing’ mode.

What he said was

Well yes, what he said at 03:20 was exactly what I wrote.
Anyway who cares.

The original poster was critical of the cropping and so am I. As a user my opinion is that I consider Lightroom cropping poor compared to many image editing programmes that I have used.

Cheers.

[jrsforums]

Well yes, what he said at 03:20 was exactly what I wrote.
Anyway who cares.

The original poster was critical of the cropping and so am I. As a user my opinion is that I consider Lightroom cropping poor compared to many image editing programmes that I have used.

Cheers.

As a user, my opinion is you don’t (or didnt) know how to use it….and are trying to use it for a need that has little use for the typical Lightroom user.  If your method of cropping is so important to you, use the other program(s).  Don’t make a general statement that Lightroom cropping poor….it obviously is not for most of the users….me included.

Quite frankly, I never really understood the OPks complaint about cropping down to a ‘postage stamp’.

[Rhossydd]

Lightroom has been around since 2006;

Which makes it even worse that this feature hasn't been improved in that time.

and stop the historical quotes, it just suggests you can't think of anything relevant and original to say and is deeply tedious.

[digitaldog]

Well what he said was "Specific pixels don't exist until the raw is rendered (on export). " which is neither correct or what I am asking.
Exporting is not cropping.

You're lost.
But at least you have illustrated to your readers a lack of understanding of cropping with LR/ACR while having a very strong opinion on it.

[digitaldog]

Which makes it even worse that this feature hasn't been improved in that time.

and stop the historical quotes, it just suggests you can't think of anything relevant and original to say and is deeply tedious.

Improvement is unnecessary. The user base not asking sufficiently (but you can provide a URL where you upvoted on the UtoU forum).
If this is tedious for you, you are free to move on.

[jrsforums]

Which makes it even worse that this feature hasn't been improved in that time.

and stop the historical quotes, it just suggests you can't think of anything relevant and original to say and is deeply tedious.

There have been tweaks of improvements, but there really has not been any need for improvement.  As was discussed above, there are ways to do pretty much everything (except digital redefinition), you just need to understand how it works.  The paradigm may not be what you like (outside-in vs inside-out crop and background move vs crop move) but it works.  What is surprising is that someone has not gotten use to it and understood it….it’s been around since 2006!! 😀

[digitaldog]

You lost a few at “you just need to understand how it works.”
We tried to help.
 “Smart people learn from their mistakes. But the real sharp ones learn from the mistakes of others.” ― Brandon Mull, Fablehaven

[Rhossydd]

you just need to understand how it works.

I know very well how it works, I've been using it since the first public beta.

However that doesn't mean it's not beyond improvement.

[digitaldog]

I know very well how it works, I've been using it since the first public beta.

“I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.“ -Abraham Lincoln

However that doesn't mean it's not beyond improvement.

"If someone is complaining about the question or the questioner rather than providing an answer, they're usually trying to change the subject." -Gwen Ifill

[Rhossydd]

“I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.“ -Abraham Lincoln

Still nothing of your own to add ? <yawn>

[digitaldog]

Still nothing of your own to add ? <yawn>

"An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head." -Eric Hoffer 

[jrsforums]

I know very well how it works, I've been using it since the first public beta.

However that doesn't mean it's not beyond improvement.

“Don’t complain, offer a solution” quote from any good business person 😀

Ok…what improvements would you like to see and have suggested to Adobe?  Also, you must consider the cost/benefit of doing this improvement.

[digitaldog]

Ok…what improvements would you like to see and have suggested to Adobe? 

How he can do so:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/how-do-i-write-a-feature-request/idi-p/12386378

[Rhossydd]

what improvements would you like to see

Just making the window zoomable and scrollable like DXO PL or Capture one would improve the usability. If Phase & DXO can do it so intuitively, I'm sure Adobe could match that functionality with their resources. The coding would be much less effort than all the sophistication needed for all the AI masking options introduced recently.

Asked for over ten years ago https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-enable-zoom-with-crop-tool/idi-p/12249267

[digitaldog]

Asked for over ten years ago https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-enable-zoom-with-crop-tool/idi-p/12249267

108 votes over 10+ (nearly 11) years; now you know why:
There seem to be strong opinions about how software should be developed, by people (AFAIK) having no experience developing software.

[jrsforums]

Just making the window zoomable and scrollable like DXO PL or Capture one would improve the usability. If Phase & DXO can do it so intuitively, I'm sure Adobe could match that functionality with their resources. The coding would be much less effort than all the sophistication needed for all the AI masking options introduced recently.

Asked for over ten years ago https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-enable-zoom-with-crop-tool/idi-p/12249267

I LOVE the AI masking!!!  Would not give that up for anything.

[digitaldog]

The coding would be much less effort than all the sophistication needed for all the AI masking options introduced recently.

1. You have the source code from Adobe do you?
2. Speaking only for myself (unlike some) the AI masking is an amazingly useful functionality and far more important than tweaks to cropping I don't need.

[Rhossydd]

There seem to be strong opinions about how software should be developed, by people (AFAIK) having no experience developing software.

That's called demand by customers.

[digitaldog]

That's called demand by customers.

Tiny demand over a decade; nice try.
Your experience developing software (software for this market) would be???

[jrsforums]

Cropping in Lightroom is poor. You should be able to specify the crop size in pixels and also the X and y values of the start point on the image like Aperture and Raw Power.

Check out https://johnrellis.com/lightroom/anycrop.htm