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Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« on: May 02, 2022, 12:33:29 pm »

I have the software and it can run my Dye Sub F570 and solvent S80600 but find it quite quirky at best and could use some help.
I still print all photography from Lightroom but really need a rip for the S80600.
Since the printer was used no RIP came with it and the new Onyx is $3000, a little much for right now.

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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 12:50:41 pm »

I never even installed the Epson Edge RIP for my F570, its so easy to just print out of photoshop. I do miss some of my rip features, but not enough to spend the money on a real rip for the F570. I really like the Ergosoft RIPs running my 9900 & 11880, but same price point around $3,000. I'm really curious to see how you like the 80600 for canvas, I'm still thinking about making that switch. Good luck!
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2022, 12:04:00 pm »

Tech is here today to replace one of the heads. Gosh I hope it is only one.

Just left. 2 new heads. To the tune of $5100. had to put on my big boy pants for that one but man does it print nice.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2022, 02:41:19 pm »

I looked at the Epson RIP for the first time the other day. I use colorbyte software's Imageprint. But the Epson RIP was really hard to look at. I did one test print and decided that I would never use it. It seems like a checkbox marketing item but I can't imagine people actually using it.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2022, 10:15:58 am »

Do you know which Epson Rip it was, Caldera, Onyx or Wasatch? They are all a little too expensive for me anyway. Imageprint does not support the s80600. (At least the last time I checked.)
If I am able to load custom profiles into Epson Edge it should be all I need.

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2022, 12:00:07 pm »

You 'need' a "RIP" to do exactly what that the other "RIP" (print driver) doesn't accomplish???
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2022, 06:07:57 pm »

Do Epson's commercial solvent printers have "drivers" like their aqueous machines do?  Because afaik nobody else does that, so yeah, you'd need a RIP.  Edge Print can't be THAT bad can it?
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2022, 12:00:18 am »

Dan, did you have a look at "proofmaster"?

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 05:07:56 pm »

Will check it out, thanks.

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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2022, 08:27:51 am »

Do Epson's commercial solvent printers have "drivers" like their aqueous machines do?  Because afaik nobody else does that, so yeah, you'd need a RIP.  Edge Print can't be THAT bad can it?
No drivers, you do need a rip of some sorts.

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2022, 08:55:33 am »

What model of Epson printer has no Epson supplied print driver?
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2022, 04:33:07 pm »

What model of Epson printer has no Epson supplied print driver?

I would assume everything made for the industrial print market, just like anything from Mutoh, Mimaki, Roland, etc.  Edge Print IS the driver-- You pretty much need to have control over advanced options like ink limiting in order to take advantage of all the different types of media you can use, plus many large signage shops use a single RIP to drive whole fleets of printers, normally from a dedicated computer set up with hotfolders accessible via network
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2022, 04:59:19 pm »

I would assume everything made for the industrial print market, just like anything from Mutoh, Mimaki, Roland, etc.  Edge Print IS the driver-- You pretty much need to have control over advanced options like ink limiting in order to take advantage of all the different types of media you can use, plus many large signage shops use a single RIP to drive whole fleets of printers, normally from a dedicated computer set up with hotfolders accessible via network
IF Edge Print IS the driver-, then "No drivers, you do need a rip of some sorts." isn't accurate.
Who releases a printer without a driver?
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2022, 02:32:48 am »

Technically there is a driver for communication (generally only if using USB) but if we're talking symantics here, if the machine only connects over a network, and the data is processed in a RIP then sent to the machine over ethernet, you wouldn't actually need to install anything resembling a "driver" on your local machine.  In this sense a driver would be just be the method of communication with whatever generic USB chipset epson pulled off the shelf and threw into these machines.  Usually you don't need to even install that if you don't intend to use it that way.

So then technically the RIP is NOT a driver, but instead something that creates generic halftone data with a channel for each color and each possible dot size, puts it in a lightly proprietary format, and sends it over the network to the printer, which now has very little processing left to do.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2022, 09:00:37 am »

A RIP is a Raster Imaging Processor.
http://digitaldog.net/files/ToRIPorNotoRIP.pdf
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2022, 11:06:19 am »

What model of Epson printer has no Epson supplied print driver?
I stand corrected. They do have a driver utility and a comm driver package but you cannot print from it, at least I can't. (Would just love to keep printing from Lightroom with my custom profiles, anyone?)
With the cheapo Epson Edge Print Rip it now prints and icc profiles can be down loaded to the media guide Epson dashboard.

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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2022, 11:53:35 am »

I stand corrected. They do have a driver utility and a comm driver package but you cannot print from it, at least I can't.
You can't print from it appears to be the issue.
Everyone? Unlikely. I suggest tech support.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2022, 01:20:52 pm »

According to this Epson User's Guide for the S40600 / S60600 / S80600 on Page 22 — "Note: Printer drivers are not provided. A software RIP is required for printing. The Epson Web site provides software RIPs and plug-ins for the printer."

https://download.epson-europe.com/pub/S40600_S60600_S80600_User_Guide.pdf

https://epson.net/rip/S80600_Supporting_RIP_List

The printer was supplied with ONYX GamaPrint Pro RIP software when purchased new. What was the reply from Epson when you inquired whether you could obtain a replacement for the original RIP software for the used printer you purchased?

Have you contacted Epson support to see if a replacement is sold or available if the original is no longer available to you? They may be helpful in replacing it or they may not, but they likely want to help you get your printer moving ink and media thru it in order to sell you more consumables.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2022, 01:25:38 pm »

According to this Epson User's Guide for the S40600 / S60600 / S80600 on Page 22 — "Note: Printer drivers are not provided. A software RIP is required for printing. The Epson Web site provides software RIPs and plug-ins for the printer."
RIP, Print Driver, there is this:
https://www.drivers-epson.com/epson-surecolor-s40600-driver/
Now a more modern OS? May be an issue but nothing unexpected.
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Re: Anyone using Epson Edge Print RIP for printing?
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2022, 01:29:19 pm »

What does that driver do? What software will it connect with? What functionality does it have?

The primary question: Will that driver let you print from an Epson S80600 without RIP software?

Is Epson incorrect in telling users in their manual that "A software RIP is required for printing."?
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