Is it possible to fade opacity with Masking 2.0? in Lightroom

[Paul2660]

As topic states, once a mask is created, via any of the tools, gradient, brush etc. is there a way to simply fade the opacity? as in Photoshop and the way the layers and masks work in C1?

The "subtract" option as far as I can tell wants you to use a tool like the brush to "subtract", I assume that depending on the flow amount set this could be used as a fade, but I am looking for something more simple as quick as a slider. 

Thanks
Paul C

[mcbroomf]

Perhaps I'm not understanding what you're asking but the sliders you set for the brush tool (or any of them) can be moved to fade or increase the effect.  I often push mine hard to start with then back them off to the setting I want/need.  Of course you may have 2 or 3 or more sliders to tweak but I prefer the control.

[Paul2660]

Thanks for the reply. The way I see the sliders work is before the brush is used. Opacity flow feather etc. but once you have drawn a mask I don’t think the slider still have any effect on the already drawn portion of mask or gradient. I may have this wrong and will need to double check.

Paul C

[fdisilvestro]

The way I see the sliders work is before the brush is used. Opacity flow feather etc. but once you have drawn a mask I don’t think the slider still have any effect on the already drawn portion of mask or gradient. I may have this wrong and will need to double check.

Paul C

You have it right, the adjustment of those sliders do not affect what you already did. On the other hand, these are "Masks", not layers. Photoshop and C1 have opacity control for the layers.

[Paul2660]

Thanks,
I had hoped since the masks are now presented like layers (unlike the older method), that it would be possible to fade opacity. 

It's interesting to see compare C1 and LR, strengths, as the new Select Sky mask option in LR is really excellent.  It's ability to select sky even around fine tree limbs is impressive.  C1 IMO still doesn't have this type of tool.  You can get close with the color selection tool if your sky has a lot of blue, but if there are clouds, it' won't work as well. 

Paul

[mcbroomf]

Perhaps I didn't word it correctly, I was not referring to the mask sliders, but the parameter sliders to change the effect.  So if I make an exposure adjustment I can come back and change it, perhaps (?) not much different from fading the mask itself.

Hope that is more clear.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Perhaps I didn't word it correctly, I was not referring to the mask sliders, but the parameter sliders to change the effect.  So if I make an exposure adjustment I can come back and change it, perhaps (?) not much different from fading the mask itself....

+1

[fdisilvestro]

Perhaps I didn't word it correctly, I was not referring to the mask sliders, but the parameter sliders to change the effect.  So if I make an exposure adjustment I can come back and change it, perhaps (?) not much different from fading the mask itself.

Hope that is more clear.

If you move one or two sliders maybe, but if your adjustment involves multiples sliders then it becomes really difficult, not to mention that LR still does not allow you more advances adjustments on masks such as color grading or curves. If this were the case, it would be close to impossible to replicate a global opacity slider.
The other software mentioned before have an “overalll” opacity slider on top of each individual adjustment sliders.

[mcbroomf]

Yes, I already mentioned that as a reservation in my 1st post.  Of course you can split the masks up to individual parameter sliders if you don't mind the clutter.  In any case we are all agreed that there is no fade for the mask itself.

[digitaldog]

As topic states, once a mask is created, via any of the tools, gradient, brush etc. is there a way to simply fade the opacity? as in Photoshop and the way the layers and masks work in C1?

Is this what you're looking for? See below and the arrow(s) show.

[fdisilvestro]

Is this what you're looking for? See below and the arrow(s) show.

That’s it, thank you! I stand corrected.

[digitaldog]

That’s it, thank you! I stand corrected.

While it exists, it's far from intuitive or discoverable.

[Arlen]

While it exists, it's far from intuitive or discoverable.

Very true. I've seen it before, but had forgotten how to find it.

[mcbroomf]

While it exists, it's far from intuitive or discoverable.

Nevertheless it's great to have that control.  Thanks Andrew ...

[Rhossydd]

While it exists, it's far from intuitive or discoverable.

Too true and uncharacteristically poor design. Someone needs to review that placement, on each individual mask would be far better.

[mcbroomf]

...... on each individual mask would be far better.

??  It is on each individual mask ...

[Rhossydd]

??  It is on each individual mask ...

My mistake, only had a quick look. Having to cycle through each mask to see how much of each one is being applied remains a daft and unintuitive way to implement the feature.

[Paul2660]

While it exists, it's far from intuitive or discoverable.

I agree, how do you find this slider, or make it available? 

Thanks for pointing this out, was not aware of it

Paul

[Rhossydd]

I agree, how do you find this slider, or make it available? 

It appears when you click the small arrow top right on the adjustments panels for the particular mask when it's selected. The panel collapses just leaving the amount slider. It all disappears if you close the Masking options.

[Paul2660]

Got it. Thanks. Just what I was looking for.

Paul