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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2021, 01:08:59 pm »

looks pretty good; it only forgot the gaps.
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2021, 01:45:44 pm »

Another "feature" of the upgrades (Photoshop v 23.0, Bridge v 12.0 and Lightroom Classic v 11.0) is that they require MacOS 10.15 or later if you are on a Mac (at least, according to the Creative Cloud notification that I get). I am presently using a rather old Mac Pro (mid 2010) running MacOS Mojave (10.14.6) which might be as far as I can go on this hardware. This 11 year old computer still runs fine, but now I'm running into these issues with lack of compatibility with new versions of software. There are paths forward, but I'm kind of waiting to see what Apple does with the new (not yet announced) Mac Mini or the (possible) smaller Mac Pro version that has been discussed. Also, the new MacBook Pro could be a suitable replacement for my old Mac Pro (with an attached monitor such as the NEC PA271 that I have and which is also 11 years old). I think my bank account is going to take a hit sometime soon.
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2021, 04:12:23 pm »

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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2021, 05:03:20 pm »

Very nice, Peter. It selected both chairs?
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2021, 04:20:16 pm »

At least on this end, Sky Replacement works very well and on its own is a great new masking feature.
With relatively simple subject matter, maybe. However, if dealing with complex subjects like trees, or when there are not very distinct tonal differences between the sky and the rest of the scene, I find it generally does not work very well for me at all.
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2021, 04:24:45 pm »

With relatively simple subject matter, maybe. However, if dealing with complex subjects like trees, or when there are not very distinct tonal differences between the sky and the rest of the scene, I find it generally does not work very well for me at all.
First, this is a work in progress and will get even better.
2nd, it's a starting place and in some, maybe many cases, you are going to have to do some refinements.
3rd. at least on this end, with the images I've played with, it is a huge time saver compared to starting with nothing in the first place.
If you expect this to be perfect from the get-go, with every image, keep this in mind:
"Have no fear of perfection-you'll never reach it."  -Salvador Dali
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2021, 04:57:37 pm »

First, this is a work in progress and will get even better.
2nd, it's a starting place and in some, maybe many cases, you are going to have to do some refinements.
3rd. at least on this end, with the images I've played with, it is a huge time saver compared to starting with nothing in the first place.
If you expect this to be perfect from the get-go, with every image, keep this in mind:
"Have no fear of perfection-you'll never reach it."  -Salvador Dali

I find LR's new masking abilities to be extremely useful and easy to use. The ability to add and subtract masks is great!
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2021, 05:08:25 pm »

The ability to add and subtract masks is great!

I think the interaction among the various components of the masking suite—the two selection tools that use machine-learning as well as the more traditional ones—is very well implemented.  In particular, the ability to restrict modifications to the intersection of two masks strikes me as rather clever.

As an aside, I've been shooting some black-and-white film lately with a prewar 35mm rangefinder camera I recently acquired.  I've found the new masking features extremely useful in producing the localized tonal adjustments I want to make in order to exploit the analog capabilities of my negative scans.  (Examples here and here.)

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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2021, 05:20:21 pm »

I would like to be able to join the two types of masks (Vector and raster), maybe by "Rasterizing" the vector masks. For instance, if you select a subject and then add a brush, it keeps them as separate objects. Try to "Invert" the mask and you''ll see what I mean.

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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2021, 05:43:24 pm »

I would like to be able to join the two types of masks (Vector and raster), maybe by "Rasterizing" the vector masks. For instance, if you select a subject and then add a brush, it keeps them as separate objects. Try to "Invert" the mask and you''ll see what I mean.

I ran into that issue too, where when you combine two or more selections in one mask, there appears to be no way to invert the combination. However, after a search I did find that there is a way to do it, even if it is a little kludgy. See this webpage description and associated video:  https://scottdavenportphoto.com/blog/how-to-invert-simple-and-complex-masks-in-lightroom. Hopefully, in a future update Adobe will give us a more straightforward way to accomplish this.
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2021, 05:46:23 pm »

Yes Adobe knows about the need for a better means to invert and yes, that "kludge" is a way to get around this for the time being. Again, this is a V1 feature but a big one, more coming.
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Re: New masking in LR coming out
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2021, 05:51:20 pm »

Again, this is a V1 feature but a big one, more coming.

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