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PureRAW
« on: May 09, 2021, 09:01:12 am »

Purchased PureRAW after seeing a couple demos online. Set it up to use DeepPrime and gave it a whirl. First, LR converted, unmodified DNG images cannot be used as a source file; Strike One! Second, SOOC NEF files sometimes result in black frames. If I select a group of 10, for example, the first four DeepPrime frames are empty and black. This also produces a graphics card access error; Strike Two! When I asked DxO if I could have my money back, they said NO even though I had used PureRAW less than a week and it seems to be an obviously defective product; Strike Three!

I then tried the same files using the Prime setting, and everything worked fine. Even unmodified dng files were processed although DxO Support said it could not be done. I think it is irresponsible for DxO to release a clearly defective product and not stand behind it.

Below, Argentine cactus blossoms rendered with the Prime setting and exported as DNG to LR unmodified. Jpeg at 65% to get under the file size restriction.
1/200 sec, f/22, ISO 6400, 160 mm Nikon D850, Nikkor 70-200 f/4

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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2021, 11:01:19 pm »

Out of curiosity, why didn't you use the 30 day free-trial? You could have sorted all the issues and make a decision about the product before paying for it.

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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2021, 04:13:19 am »

First, LR converted, unmodified DNG images cannot be used as a source file;
It does mention this in their support files for the product.
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When I asked DxO if I could have my money back, they said NO even though I had used PureRAW less than a week
This is why they offer 30 day free trials.

Given that there's been criticism of DXO support and PL4 here in the past, it seems rather reckless to rush out and pay for a brand new (v1) product without testing it first when you have that opportunity.
You'll just have to hope they will fix some of your issues in future updates.
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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2021, 08:47:33 am »

Thanks for the replies, folks. Yes, in retrospect, I should have used the 30 day trial. But, I assumed, given the reviews I'd seen, that it would be straightforward. Worst case, I'm out $90.
I didn't see anything about DNG in their support files. Caveat emptor!
it seems rather reckless to rush out and pay for a brand new (v1) product
Indeed.
Anyhoo, the Prime setting seems quite good, even on DNG files, as seen in the OP image.
Thanks again for the replies. Lesson learned. ???

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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2021, 11:31:19 am »

It might be worth trying a demo for PL4 Elite and seeing if the problem with Deep Prime is there too on your system. If not you may be able to get DXO to offer you a licence swap/upgrade to PL4.

Deep Prime is pretty good and really the main(only?) reason to use it with LR.
From what I've read the workflow of PL4 -> dng -> LR ought to bring DeepPrime to LR with only slightly more complication than using Pure Raw, but with a lot more control over the settings.
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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2021, 05:08:50 am »

PL4 states the DeepPrime can only be enabled on native RAW files. Same goes for Prime.
In my WF I run my (RAW) files first through  PL4 (Denoise and Optical Corrections only) and from there export them to LR as .dng for further processing.
I have no problem with that since I was told that denoising should be done as soon as possible and I only shoot RAW.
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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2021, 05:21:31 am »

In my WF I run my (RAW) files first through  PL4 (Denoise and Optical Corrections only) and from there export them to LR as .dng for further processing.
Sounds a good way of using DeepPrime. My trial has expired now, so I can't check, but can you run that workflow without optical correction, then do that in LR ?

Unreliable lens identification was the bug that killed PL for me, but I never bothered to consider just using it for NR only and outputting as a DNG to LR.
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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 06:15:32 am »

I never tried it but one of the standard presets is "No Correction". From there I would apply Deep Prime and then create my own preset.
In "Preferences" you can choose which preset will be automatically applied to new images.
You can define an automatic preset for RAW and another for RGB files (no deep prime)
So you should load the images, select those you want and export them. The preset should have been applied automatically.
AFAIK...
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Re: PureRAW
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2021, 06:25:24 am »

Thanks.
I'll probably wait for PL5 with a whooping big discount. They might even speed it up and fix some of the bugs by then ;-)
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