A full street

[OnlyNorth]

(Done with the phone)

[kers]

Looks like a submerged junkyard; very nice!

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

I think Russ would say that you need to get that phone fixed.

But I'll say that I find it a fascinating image.

[RSL]

What Russ would say is this:

It's patently obvious that nobody on LuLa has even the remotest idea what street photography is all about. It would make all sorts of sense for LuLa to drop the category "Street Showcase." It's nothing of the sort. Street photography is a genre defined by some of history's most competent and influential photographers, people like Andre Kertesz, Henri Cartier-Bresson, Robert Frank, Garry Winogrand, to name just four of many. The genre has to do with interactions between people and between people and their environment. It hasn't anything to do with the crap I've seen on here since I threw up my hands and dropped off.

The problem with keeping the category on LuLa is that it misleads those who haven't a clue about the genre and aren't willing to do the kind of research they need to do to learn about it. They think that if they're shooting a street, or something on a street, they're doing street photography. There's massive ignorance about the genre out there, and LuLa is contributing to it. 

[rabanito]

This is interesting
https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

This is interesting
https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/

That was an excellent essay from the "old" LuLa. It's still an excellent essay, but I can't see any complete image on my PC screen unless I reduce the browser screen (ctrl-minus, several times) until the image fits the screen. And at that point the text of the article is too small to be readable.

Terrible web design -- unless the purpose is to treat text and images all as meaningless wallpaper.

[RSL]

Somebody messed with the original, Eric. Here's a slightly different version. The text is the same but the pictures are different: http://www.russ-lewis.com/essays/OnStreetPhotography.pdf

[KLaban]

Simply rename the "Street Showcase" to "On The Street".

Damn it, the problem is we could then get inundated with pics of those of ill repute.



You see the problem with categories, definitions and the anal retentive?

 

[RSL]

You're right, Keith. It would never work.

Eric, I tried Rab's link again and found that if I start to scroll down through it, suddenly an interrupt screen pops up, offering you a chance to subscribe to LuLa or, of you're already a member, to sign in. Sign in. Then dump the interrupt and go back to the original link. Now you'll have the whole thing available. It wold be interesting to know what genius thought up something that stupid, but there you are.

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Somebody messes with the original, Eric. Here's a slightly different version. The text is the same but the pictures are different: http://www.russ-lewis.com/essays/OnStreetPhotography.pdf

Yes, Russ, I've read and admired that essay as it appeared on the old LuLa, before the present team "improved" the web interface. It's good that it is available on your website, readably, and with good illustrations.

-Eric

P.S. Keith's suggestion, "On the Street," might be a suitable catch-all fix for the current misleading LuLa topic heading.

[KLaban]

...P.S. Keith's suggestion, "On the Street," might be a suitable catch-all fix for the current misleading LuLa topic heading.

Eric, I'd encourage more contributors to post more images and worry less about meeting categorisations.

At the moment there is a 'Landscape Showcase' and a contested and controversial 'Street Showcase' and no natural home for all the rest. IMO images should be the lifeblood of a photography forum.

[OnlyNorth]

Being in a heavy traffic,in a heavy rainy day,this little devil drawn on my windshield by raindrops told me that in Random House of the English Language  "showcase" is 1.a glass case for the display and protection of articles in shops,museums,etc; 2.the setting,place,or vehicle displaying something in a trial basis;vt.3.to exhibit or display., in Webster's Dictionary "showcase" is 1.a glass close case for the displaying and protection of articles in shops,museums,etc; 2.an exhibit or display usually of an ideal or representative model of something; 3. the setting, place or vehicle for displayng something on a trial basis; vt.3. to exhibit or display. ,in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English "showcase" is a glass box containing objects for people to look at in a shop or an event or situation that is designed to show the good qualities of a person,organisation,product,etc.
So "street showcase" is no more than the name says.Your discussion was about a part of street showcase which is called "street photography".These discussions are not new and I am sure they will continue.
Thank You for these extensive comments

[KLaban]

North, I believe contributors should feel free to choose whatever category they feel appropriate when posting images. Tight briefs rub me up the wrong way!

I like both of your images.

[RSL]

Interesting, Keith. Then you wouldn't have a problem with Only's latest going on Landscape Showcase? (Actually it probably would be more appropriate there than here.)

[rabanito]

North, I believe contributors should feel free to choose whatever category they feel appropriate when posting images. Tight briefs rub me up the wrong way!

I like both of your images.

I agree, "What's in a name?" but I believe that there has to be at least some order. Even museums don't mix mummies with Rembrandts.
I wouldn't like to click on Landscapes and land in the Bear Pit 
Or the other way around, find Bearpitchy comments under Landscapes   
Just MHO
I like both images too, BTW

[RSL]

I like both images too, Rab, but it's clear they both belong in Landscape Showcase.

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Under User Critiques there is a thread for "Show us some Abstracts."
I might start a new thread over there called "Unclassified images."

[John R]

I really like both of these images. They are semi-abstract, of course. Or if you like, non-representational images. Lovely!

JR

[OnlyNorth]

I am afraid, by entering into this discussion,I moved away from my goal which is to take photos not to talk on photography.
However entire discussion was an interesting and usefull one,especially since the arguments, used for supporting the opinions, revealed a side of the character of the participants.
Of course,You know now, I consider, that in a"showcase" of the street,every topic has its place and all togather represent the street show and maybe opinions show.
Thank You.

[RSL]

That’s very virtuous, Only: wanting to “take photos, not to talk on photography.” Only problem is that this isn’t “a ‘showcase’ of the street.” It’s a “Street Showcase,” a category that supposedly was intended to be a showcase for street photography, which is very different from photographs of streets.

Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe the intention from the start was to display pictures of streets. That’s essentially what it’s turned out to do. Unfortunately, it contributes to a gross misunderstanding of photography’s most significant genre.