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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3000 on: January 17, 2022, 05:53:09 pm »

First of all, as usual, you don't know what the f&*k you're talking about and that's utterly wrong. 
2nd, being this is MLK day and you've shown us your stupidity and racist dog whistles, this is perfect for you:
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther King

You are dangeriously ignorant.
Your are conscientiously stupid.
You don't tell the truth but accuse others of speaking lies. That makes you a hypocrate on top of being dangeriously stupid and ignorant.
You break the rules here then tell others the rules*. That makes you a hypocrate on top of being dangeriously stupid and ignorant.
You're not taken seriously here.
You're not respected here.
As such, you started your own new Covid-19 thread, have fun there. You'll continue to add political nonsense here and there; you can't help yourself.
You are a dangeriously stupid, ingorant Troll.
None of this is a surprise to anyone here who's followed you over the last year plus.
The only person who doesn't understand what a troll is, how a troll behaves is you Alan.
Now go off to your new thread and have at it, anyone with any sense will stay away from your dangeriously stupid and ignorant trolling there.

I'm glad you agreed to stay off my thread.  It's better that way. 

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3001 on: January 17, 2022, 05:56:14 pm »

I'm glad you agreed to stay off my thread.  It's better that way.
I have no intention of aiding you in your masterbation there. You're on your own bud.
Perhaps you'll agree to stay off this thread. It's way better that way.
Of couse you can't.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3002 on: January 17, 2022, 06:15:31 pm »

I have no intention of aiding you in your masterbation there. You're on your own bud.
Perhaps you'll agree to stay off this thread. It's way better that way.
Of couse you can't.

I think that's a great idea.  So you see, we can come to agreements about things.

Out of respect for the OP Chris who stated he wants to keep this thread non-political, I will no longer post here but on the other Covid site.  That site is open to any and all who wish to give data and express their opinions about anything Covid including policy, politics, the economy, masks, testing kits, including opinions and politics about vaccinations.  Thank you.
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=140036.0

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« Reply #3003 on: January 17, 2022, 06:19:35 pm »

Moderna: Combined Covid-19 and flu booster could be available by fall 2023

This would be a combination of three mRNA vaccines: for SARS-CoV-2, seasonal influenza, and another upper respiratory pathogen, respiratory syncytial virus.

Moderna's chief executive, Stéphane Bancel, recently admitted to investors that the company's initial mRNA 'flu vaccine would not be best-in-class—"our goal has never been to have the best 'flu vaccine out of the gate"—and his announcement today suggests that the company's strategy is to offer a product that would appeal to individuals who are reluctant to get multiple annual boosters.

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Our goal is to be able to have a single annual booster, so that we don’t have compliance issues where people don’t want to get two to three shots a winter, but to get one dose where they get a booster for Corona and a booster for flu and RSV.

One obvious advantage of migrating seasonal 'flu vaccines to mRNA technology would be lower latency in the development of each year's formula—allowing the vaccine manufacturers to respond quickly to later-developing mutations.

Bancel also said Moderna will have an Omicron-specific booster ready within weeks.

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3004 on: January 17, 2022, 06:57:43 pm »

Out of respect for the OP Chris who stated he wants to keep this thread non-political, I will no longer post here but on the other Covid site
In celebration of Alan's promose to never post here again, how about a Dr Anthony Fauci (and 'friends') joke:

A Plane with 5 passengers on board, Donald Trump, the Pope, Dr Anthony Fauci, Bernie Sanders, and a ten year old school girl.
The plane is about to crash and theres only 4 parachutes.
Dr Fauci, said “I need one. I have to help develop a cure for the global health crisis that is COVID19!”  He takes one and jumps.
The pope said “I need one, I have to help spiritually guide people through the global health crisis that is COVID19!” He takes one and jumps.
Trump said ‘‘I need one, I’m the smartest man in the USA.” He takes one and jumps.
Bernie said to the ten year old "you can have the last parachute. I've lived my life, yours is only starting".
The 10 year old said "Don’t worry, there are 2 parachutes left. The smartest man in the USA  took my school backpack."
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3005 on: January 17, 2022, 07:06:57 pm »

In celebration of Alan's promose to never post here again, how about a Dr Anthony Fauci (and 'friends') joke:

That joke is getting really old (I heard it first 60 years ago about Nikita Khrushchev) and I think you are going too far in your attacks on Alan. Live and let live! Or was it - post and let others post?
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3006 on: January 17, 2022, 07:10:19 pm »

That joke is getting really old (I heard it first 60 years ago about Nikita Khrushchev)...
I didn't post it solely for your entertainment.
Since I'm not humor impaired, let me ask: In your version, from 60 years ago, who jumped out with the little girls school backpack and who got parachutes?
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3007 on: January 17, 2022, 07:19:24 pm »

I didn't post it solely for your entertainment.
Since I'm not humor impaired, let me ask: In your version, from 60 years ago, who jumped out with the little girls school backpack and who got parachutes?

I remember only the airplane (most probably a Tupolev) and Khrushchev. He was the one who grabbed the backpack. Two other passengers could have been presidents of East Germany and Czechoslovakia. That was usually the typical crew in the Radio Yerevan or Prague underground jokes.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3008 on: January 17, 2022, 07:28:21 pm »

That joke is getting really old (I heard it first 60 years ago about Nikita Khrushchev)...

I remember only the airplane (most probably a Tupolev) and Khrushchev. He was the one who grabbed the backpack. Two other passengers could have been presidents of East Germany and Czechoslovakia. That was usually the typical crew in the Radio Yerevan or Prague underground jokes.
Well now you can recall the new joke just posted that is getting “really old for you” <g>.
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« Reply #3009 on: January 17, 2022, 07:49:27 pm »

Well now you can recall the new joke just posted that is getting “really old for you” <g>.

60 years ago the jokes were the only way for the oppressed masses to get back at the political elite and oppressors Consider yourself lucky not to have lived through it.
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« Reply #3010 on: January 17, 2022, 08:02:57 pm »

60 years ago the jokes were the only way for the oppressed masses to get back at the political elite and oppressors Consider yourself lucky not to have lived through it.
You seem very sure I didn't. Or that either (or neither of us) were “oppressed”.
Indeed, I am younger....  ;)
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« Reply #3011 on: January 17, 2022, 08:44:46 pm »

You'll have to take this comment to my thread. 

When you tell other people what they have to do, RuPaul says...
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3012 on: January 17, 2022, 10:08:45 pm »

One obvious advantage of migrating seasonal 'flu vaccines to mRNA technology would be lower latency in the development of each year's formula—allowing the vaccine manufacturers to respond quickly to later-developing mutations.
Discussed in more detail here:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-021-00176-7
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Existing flu shots, whether built around inactivated viruses or recombinant proteins, typically offer only 40–60% protection from infection. In theory, mRNA might make for a better product: elicited immune responses may be broader, expressed proteins should have better sequence fidelity, strain selection may be more accurate and the technology makes it easy to incorporate large numbers of antigens. All of these features could translate into greater immune protection.

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Because mRNA vaccines are manufactured synthetically, by encoding a target antigen sequence into a plasmid template, they offer high fidelity: encoded antigens exactly match the flu strains selected for each year’s vaccine. By contrast, inactivated virus vaccines that are made in egg- and cell-based systems often suffer from sequence mutations that weaken their effectiveness.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3013 on: January 18, 2022, 04:43:29 am »

In certain sectors of the UK there is a feeling that FOMO is being replaced by FOGO !!

FOMO Fear of missing out
FOGO fear of going out

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3014 on: January 18, 2022, 12:38:03 pm »

FOGO fear of going out
Fear Of Getting Omicron? 🤔

Over here in the US as of today:
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The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a request to block a federal mask mandate for air travel.
The emergency application was filed by a father on behalf of himself and his 4-year-old autistic son, both of whom claim to be medically incapable of wearing masks for extended periods.
Their request was filed to Justice Neil Gorsuch, who handles emergency applications arising in several Western states, and he referred the matter to the full court. The justices denied the request without comment or noted dissent.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3015 on: January 18, 2022, 04:12:16 pm »

Any beta testers?
This hour:
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed Tuesday that the government website to order free Covid-19 tests is up and running as part of a "beta phase" ahead of the government website's formal rollout Wednesday morning.
"COVIDtests.gov is in the beta phase right now, which is a standard part of the process typically as it's being kind of tested in the early stages of being rolled out," Psaki told reporters at the White House. "It will officially launch tomorrow morning."
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« Reply #3016 on: January 18, 2022, 08:19:19 pm »

Any beta testers?
This hour:
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed Tuesday that the government website to order free Covid-19 tests is up and running as part of a "beta phase" ahead of the government website's formal rollout Wednesday morning.
"COVIDtests.gov is in the beta phase right now, which is a standard part of the process typically as it's being kind of tested in the early stages of being rolled out," Psaki told reporters at the White House. "It will officially launch tomorrow morning."

I haven't tried to order any tests from the federal website because I don't want to compete for the government-subsidized antigen tests with households that can't afford to buy them on the open market.

Having said that, it is important to understand that a positive result from an antigen test really is useful only for determining if the subject has a sufficiently advanced infection to potentially be shedding virus.

As far as I have been able to determine—admittedly, I have no expertise in virology or epidemiology—if you do get a positive from an antigen test it is strong evidence you are shedding virus and you should quarantine yourself immediately to avoid infecting others.  However, I haven't come across any evidence that a negative result from these tests yields any particularly actionable information.  In addition to having a fairly high rate of false negatives (I've seen estimates of 10-15 percent but I'm not certain anybody really knows), they are not sensitive enough to detect infections during incubation or toward the end of the infection.

For reliable information regarding whether you are infected or not, it appears you need a molecular test: one that collects a swab from the subject, amplifies the sampled RNA, and uses the RNA sample to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus if it is present.  Here in the United States, the federal Food and Drug Administration has issued Emergency Use Authorizations for at-home molecular tests which reportedly are roughly equivalent in accuracy to the PCR tests that require laboratory analysis.  (Multiple sequential tests taken 24-48 hours apart reportedly should be used to get the most reliable results.)

A table that includes molecular home tests which currently are approved for use in the United States is available at this link.  String search on "Home Collection" and—as always—exercise reasonable diligence before ordering any product.

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« Reply #3017 on: January 19, 2022, 03:37:54 pm »

Perhaps a New Cure for Covid....Texas Pete
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #3018 on: January 20, 2022, 12:37:24 pm »

From this week's "The Week" magazine:
Good week for: Getting the jab, after British doctors treating men who've had Covid reported that the virus sometimes damages blood vessels in the penis, causes impotence and a permanent reduction in its size.

Maybe someone here will post this to that 'other' forum post on Covid-19 for its author too see and consider....  ;D
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« Reply #3019 on: January 20, 2022, 02:05:53 pm »

From this week's "The Week" magazine:
Good week for: Getting the jab, after British doctors treating men who've had Covid reported that the virus sometimes damages blood vessels in the penis, causes impotence and a permanent reduction in its size.

Maybe someone here will post this to that 'other' forum post on Covid-19 for its author too see and consider....  ;D

You should post part of this study in bold. And then tweet it to a wider audience.
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