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Alan Klein

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #600 on: March 25, 2021, 03:55:03 pm »

The CDC had to "say" something to justify their existence. 
My question was rhetorical. Of course, I agree with you.

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« Reply #601 on: March 25, 2021, 03:59:32 pm »

So, it looks like 200 million shots will be administered in the first 100 days of Biden's presidency.
Under promised and over delivered, unlike many things over promised and under delivered under the previous president.
Oh Les stop it.  The only reason the vaccines are ahead of schedule is because of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.  20,000,000 shots were already injected by Jan 20 on Trump's last day in office. 

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #602 on: March 25, 2021, 04:05:28 pm »

Kudos to those who have posted in this topic.
It is both informative and civil.

Gratefully,
Dale

Didn't last, did it?

S

And what would you say is your most valuable contribution to the discussion of new vaccines?
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #603 on: March 25, 2021, 04:26:11 pm »

The CDC had to "say" something to justify their existence.

CDC is the acronym for Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As long as diseases exist or public health is a reasonable concern, I don't think it will be all that difficult for CDC to "justify their existence".
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« Reply #604 on: March 25, 2021, 05:02:40 pm »

Oh Les stop it.  The only reason the vaccines are ahead of schedule is because of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.  20,000,000 shots were already injected by Jan 20 on Trump's last day in office.

Warp speed or not, 20 million shots in the two months prior to Jan 20, or 180 million in the last 2 months are remarkable achievements.
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« Reply #605 on: March 25, 2021, 07:33:04 pm »

Looks like in Miami the safe social distance is less than 6 ft.



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article250181905.html
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« Reply #606 on: March 25, 2021, 07:51:16 pm »

Warp speed or not, 20 million shots in the two months prior to Jan 20, or 180 million in the last 2 months are remarkable achievements.
They were all in the pipeline from orders from Warp Speed. After all the Decmorts laughing at Trump's promise to get the vaccines out by the end of the  year, for Biden to take credit and for you to acknowledge his claim is incredible.   Meanwhile, in two months, Biden has completely reversed the lid Trump put onto illegals coming across the border. Even the Mexican President blames him for the crisis.

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« Reply #607 on: March 25, 2021, 07:53:32 pm »

Speaking of Mexicans, a couple of them invented this new mask that even Fauci should approve for eating.  However, I wouldn't be eating while watching the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1374777986965209100

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« Reply #608 on: March 25, 2021, 10:19:13 pm »

Oh Les stop it.  The only reason the vaccines are ahead of schedule is because of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.  20,000,000 shots were already injected by Jan 20 on Trump's last day in office. 
Even Macron admits that America had the vision last summer to go for the stars in developing vaccines.

“We didn’t think it would happen that quickly... You can give that to the Americans, as early as the summer of 2020 they said: let’s pull out all the stops and do it,” Macron said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-macron-idUKKBN2BG33P

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« Reply #609 on: March 26, 2021, 12:13:06 am »

Even Macron admits that America had the vision last summer to go for the stars in developing vaccines.

“We didn’t think it would happen that quickly... You can give that to the Americans, as early as the summer of 2020 they said: let’s pull out all the stops and do it,” Macron said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-macron-idUKKBN2BG33P

I'm surprised that most countries didn't do a proper planning. They had full year to plan it. But what can you expect from the government employees and career bureaucrats?
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« Reply #610 on: March 26, 2021, 10:05:15 am »

I'm surprised that most countries didn't do a proper planning. They had full year to plan it. But what can you expect from the government employees and career bureaucrats?

Macron has shown himself to be a complete incompetent, labelling AZ as "quasi-ineffective" and now throwing his toys out of the pram because AZ supplies to France have been held up, and despite the fact that 50% of French people have said they won't accept a vaccination, and so now the SA variant is on the rise in France threatening both them and their neighbours. Quel foutoir!
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« Reply #611 on: March 26, 2021, 10:47:19 am »

I'm surprised that most countries didn't do a proper planning. They had full year to plan it. But what can you expect from the government employees and career bureaucrats?
It required a leader with foresight and willingness to act.

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« Reply #612 on: March 26, 2021, 11:06:21 am »

It required a leader with foresight and willingness to act.

Too funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXxuUJJz4VE
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« Reply #613 on: March 26, 2021, 11:29:53 am »

It required a leader with foresight and willingness to act.

Like Benjamin Netanyahu.
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« Reply #614 on: March 26, 2021, 12:41:28 pm »

And what would you say is your most valuable contribution to the discussion of new vaccines?

Refraining from silly political posturing, which I understand from its title ("the sole domicile of politics") is supposed to be confined to just one topic.

They also serve, who only stand and wait.

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #615 on: March 26, 2021, 02:08:16 pm »

Refraining from silly posturing, political or otherwise, would be a good practice for each of us to embrace going forward. It will make for a better flow of useful information.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #616 on: March 26, 2021, 02:17:11 pm »

If you're looking for concise and informative discussion of vaccines and variants, this recent 60 Minutes video is useful. It discusses the current vaccines and variants; the fundamnental science; and the newly emerging domestic variants in the U.S. including the most recent New York variant. It's about 13-minutes long.

How do coronavirus variants form and will the current vaccines work against them?

https://www.youtube.com/60 Minutes - How do coronavirus variants form and will the current vaccines work against them?
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« Reply #617 on: March 26, 2021, 02:34:37 pm »

Another interesting 60 Minutes segment on the development of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine is worth watching. Again 13-minutes in length.

As you probably know, the vaccine was developed by Turkish immigrants in Germany who founded the R&D company BioNTech and were funded by a $445 million grant from the German government and an open checkbook from their manufacturing and distribution partner Pfizer.

How the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was developed

https://60 Minutes - How the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was developed
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« Reply #618 on: March 26, 2021, 03:11:29 pm »

And... One more short 12-minute video worth watching on how and why the first ever mRNA vaccines were ready for development and use just when the world needed them. It seems like their development came overnight, in reality they have been in development for several decades.

In a later post, I'll give my views on who the real heroes are inside and outside of government that made rapid vaccine development and deployment in the U.S. possible. Spoiler alert... It wasn't Biden, or Trump, or even Fauci.

Meanwhile, This is a concise and very informative history of mRNA development that led to the current vaccines.

Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines

https://www.youtube.com/Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines
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« Reply #619 on: March 26, 2021, 04:01:18 pm »

... why the first ever mRNA vaccines were ready for development and use just when the world needed them. It seems like their development came overnight, in reality they have been in development for several decades.


This is probably always true.
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