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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17120 on: June 25, 2025, 07:04:56 am »

You have an app for the security system at your place ?
Maybe turn off or disable that app when not needed ?


Hi!

No, no, I meant the security system of the iPhone itself!

I can’t remember if it was with this ‘phone or the Samsung I had before it, but the cost of the security system for my desktop computer also included the ‘phone. I think it must have been the old one, because I now see that the two devices employ different brands. My son-in-law set the iPhone up for me, so I suppose he just installed the one he was familiar with.

The reading at the top of my cellphone indicates 69% charge, and that’s not been charged since yesterday, so I have to guess that the peculiar events of the other evening must be something I provoked by myself. I sure hope so!

Thanks again for your help!

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« Reply #17121 on: June 26, 2025, 04:34:48 pm »

At a presser Hegseth stated, in reference to the recent bombing raid on Iran's nuclear facilities, that Trump directed the (paraphrasing) 'most complex military attack in history'. Really? Is he including the Manhattan project and the D-Day landing? There were some questions raised about the effectiveness of the mission, that maybe it was not as successful as the administration claimed. The administration attacked the journalists, as usual. That's getting old guys, change the record.

I had a feeling that the Shah might make a comeback, or his son anyway, https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/iran-shah-reza-pahlavi-son-regime-change-trump-rcna214695. The guy wants the throne back and who can blame him. What can go wrong.

I read the bizarre story about an 'influencer' known as "liver king" who threatened Joe Rogan online https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/liver-king-arrested-threatening-joe-rogan-rcna215004. I believe he threatened to engage Rogan in a fight of some kind, for which he was arrested. This is only interesting to me because about a week or two ago (mentioned previously on these pages) some good ole boy redneck Florida sheriff threatened protesters with violence and even death. But the sheriff wasn't arrested. Must be prosecutorial discretion.

I saw that RFK Jr and fluoride was being discusses on some online clip. I am not sure what happened to bring this back in the news at this time, but it may have been an old clip. Anyway, RFK Jr claims that the benefits of fluoride are not demonstrated adequately for him and he has been wanting to change the regs. Surely we'd have enough data on this worldwide by this point that it should be easy to arrive at a reasonable best practice. I hope RFK Jr doesn't read anything about Iodine or relativistic corrections of clocks on GPS satellites. Having ignorant amateurs tamper with important things is risky. Imagine trying to explain special relativity to any of the fools in this administration.
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« Reply #17123 on: July 01, 2025, 04:10:43 pm »

As I have managed to avoid the expat brigade by not going to the bars they “adopt”, it has been a long time since anyone thrust that rag into what they thought were my willing, feverish little hands. At the best of times it’s been little but a hysterical, right-wing piece of scribble for the more excitable of the Brit equivalent of the US rednecks.

It is quite clever, in the sense that it provides a newspaper equilibrium to the various labour/socialist publications of mass opinion manipulation. Take what it shrieks with a pinch celler of salt.

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« Reply #17124 on: July 01, 2025, 05:58:31 pm »

As I have managed to avoid the expat brigade by not going to the bars they “adopt”, it has been a long time since anyone thrust that rag into what they thought were my willing, feverish little hands. At the best of times it’s been little but a hysterical, right-wing piece of scribble for the more excitable of the Brit equivalent of the US rednecks.

It is quite clever, in the sense that it provides a newspaper equilibrium to the various labour/socialist publications of mass opinion manipulation. Take what it shrieks with a pinch celler of salt.

I don't know British newspapers so I'm sorry if I offended. This same story appeared on several other sites and I just happened to copy/paste this one. I'll be more careful in the future. :)

I did come across this podcast discussion today about the mind-bending corruption in the Trump regime, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyGvNUdE6f0. I've watched several of their broadcasts and enjoy (if that's the right word) them a lot. They seem to be astonished at what Trump et al. is getting away with, but I am getting used to the USA's banana republic status.

It was difficult not to notice that Trump did not attend the funereal of those two recently assassinated politicians in Minnesota. I wonder, was he golfing? But no one should be surprised anymore about any of this.
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« Reply #17125 on: July 02, 2025, 06:38:39 am »

The latest in the Trump vs Musk soap opera is that after Musk threatened to "primary" anyone who voted for the budget bill, Trump threatened Musk with deportation and then later with ending Musk enterprises' government contracts. So right there in plain view Trump threatened to use the apparatus of the state for his own political purposes. Not much outrage that I saw, I think this is now normal.
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« Reply #17126 on: July 02, 2025, 12:45:10 pm »

The latest in the Trump vs Musk soap opera is that after Musk threatened to "primary" anyone who voted for the budget bill, Trump threatened Musk with deportation and then later with ending Musk enterprises' government contracts. So right there in plain view Trump threatened to use the apparatus of the state for his own political purposes. Not much outrage that I saw, I think this is now normal.

Contracts might be placed. ;-)

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« Reply #17127 on: July 02, 2025, 02:48:13 pm »

Contracts might be placed. ;-)

Shhhhh, not so loud.  :)
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17128 on: July 02, 2025, 03:35:37 pm »

someone has to buy the coffee !  ;)
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« Reply #17129 on: July 02, 2025, 04:29:31 pm »

The shit show in New York is too funny for words. Trump accused the new Democratic mayoral nominee of being an illegal alien, presumably because of his ethnic background, and then he also accused him of being a "communist". Trump is barely coherent these days.

Nobody, but nobody, is going to believe historians when they write about this period in 100 years time. No way that really happened, people will say.

I saw that Trump went on a tour of that "alligator alcatraz" jail in Florida. Are there people who think that this behaviour is normal? Since it was in Florida, I assume there was a golf course nearby.

"Conservatives" used to claim to be worried about the national debt. That discussion is now farce. Trump wants a new fed chair, that should work out well. Maybe they should appoint that fictitious economist that Novarro invented, he won't cost much in salary.

Isn't it scary how quickly a nation can sink so low.
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« Reply #17130 on: July 02, 2025, 05:28:52 pm »

The shit show in New York is too funny for words. Trump accused the new Democratic mayoral nominee of being an illegal alien, presumably because of his ethnic background, and then he also accused him of being a "communist". Trump is barely coherent these days.

Nobody, but nobody, is going to believe historians when they write about this period in 100 years time. No way that really happened, people will say.

I saw that Trump went on a tour of that "alligator alcatraz" jail in Florida. Are there people who think that this behaviour is normal? Since it was in Florida, I assume there was a golf course nearby.

"Conservatives" used to claim to be worried about the national debt. That discussion is now farce. Trump wants a new fed chair, that should work out well. Maybe they should appoint that fictitious economist that Novarro invented, he won't cost much in salary.

Isn't it scary how quickly a nation can sink so low.

Well, short of army revolutions, as long as voters do it freely via elections, there not a lot of explaining to do. It adds meaning to that warning about being careful of what you wish. Britain has a recent history of doing much the same thing.

From my point of view, the sad thing was that I suddenly found myself without a single party I felt I could give my vote. That may be academic: if one is abroad for a long period of time, it seems that the vote is then denied one. Perhaps that’s because when you are away from a place for a long time, you get to discover many other versions of power structure, and the once-cherished illusions of doing things better than the rest, become tested… the spaghetti and the fan meet at just about the same moment that the scales fall from one’s eyes. Naked vision is not conducive to party support.
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« Reply #17131 on: July 02, 2025, 09:40:23 pm »

Well, short of army revolutions, as long as voters do it freely via elections, there not a lot of explaining to do. It adds meaning to that warning about being careful of what you wish. Britain has a recent history of doing much the same thing.

From my point of view, the sad thing was that I suddenly found myself without a single party I felt I could give my vote. That may be academic: if one is abroad for a long period of time, it seems that the vote is then denied one. Perhaps that’s because when you are away from a place for a long time, you get to discover many other versions of power structure, and the once-cherished illusions of doing things better than the rest, become tested… the spaghetti and the fan meet at just about the same moment that the scales fall from one’s eyes. Naked vision is not conducive to party support.

Disagreeing about how to make things better is one thing, that's just part of the normal argy-bargy. But what if there is no interest in making things better, that you think it's all there just to be looted? In a parliamentary system, there is at least the occasional mitigating effect of minority government, so the 'winner' doesn't necessarily get all the say. Also, the 'winner' can be toppled at any time, not crowned for years. But as you say, if the people vote in a king and hand him the keys, well, that's that. All other countries can do is wall themselves off from the madness as much as they can.

In different news, the TV evangelist and occasional client of sex workers, Jimmy Lee Swaggart, has shed his mortal coil and is enjoying his reward.
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« Reply #17132 on: July 02, 2025, 10:06:16 pm »

Dante's vision would be appropriate, IMO. :o
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« Reply #17133 on: July 03, 2025, 11:00:51 am »

Disagreeing about how to make things better is one thing, that's just part of the normal argy-bargy. But what if there is no interest in making things better, that you think it's all there just to be looted? In a parliamentary system, there is at least the occasional mitigating effect of minority government, so the 'winner' doesn't necessarily get all the say. Also, the 'winner' can be toppled at any time, not crowned for years. But as you say, if the people vote in a king and hand him the keys, well, that's that. All other countries can do is wall themselves off from the madness as much as they can.

In different news, the TV evangelist and occasional client of sex workers, Jimmy Lee Swaggart, has shed his mortal coil and is enjoying his reward.


Well the UK has a king, and he wields pretty much no power whatsoever. Many would see him go, along with his family, and that’s one opinion. However, in mine, every country really needs some kind of head of state that’s beyond politics - a sanitised version of leadership, if you will. I very much like the idea of historical leadership; if Britain has any heritage at all then it comes down to its history, to the kings and queens who led the nation into battle, through adversity, and in relatively recent terms, through two world wars. Yes, there was Churchill, and the first thing a grateful country did was throw him out. Had he not managed to sweet-talk the US to come in on the side of the angles, we Brits would today be speaking fluent German - well, fluent’s always doubtful - but you get the picture.

Though practically powerless, royalty today has a different kind of input: it can still galvanise a country into a state of self-respect - at least during the heat of the moment - and make it feel that it does have identity. In Spain, the next-in-line is currently doing her tour of playing a röle in the various armed forces. During her stint aboard a huge sailing ship, there was footage of her scrambling up the rigging, as high and as capable as anyone else except me: I can’t cope with heights. (There are lots of things with which I can't cope, but heights paralyse me.) Anyway, when her ship briefly came ashore somewhere, her mother, the current queen, went there to meet her, and it was beautiful to see mother and daughter throw themselves into one another's arms, just as would any other family. Unadulterated emotion. That’s credibility, humanity at its best. What does the UK get?  Stiff upper lips - from all its members, except the late Diana, the absolutely classical misfit if ever there was one. But hey, that’s how Britain likes its leadership: stiff (hopefully, alive) and practically devoid of the passions of humanity. We want that; it makes us feel strong; emotion equates with weakness, they say.

But yeah, one type of desired benign royalty or another, the nice thing about it, for me, is that it exists through centuries of traditions, training, self-sacrifice and that thing called national identity. I almost wrote wonderful thing, but thought better of that. National identity can also be something very dark. Some hate royalty and look upon it as parasitical. I can’t see it that way. I know only too well that I could never live my life bound by traditions, mores, the inability to have and even perhaps enjoy one’s own little peccadilloes without some shoal of sharks with microphones and cameras trying to find - or at least create - scandal that it can record and syndicate across the world. Imagine the horror of absolute loss of privacy! Not in a million years would I envy any of them. They are, effectively, born to national service, with no honourable way out.

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« Reply #17134 on: July 03, 2025, 12:34:32 pm »


Well the UK has a king, and he wields pretty much no power whatsoever. Many would see him go, along with his family, and that’s one opinion. However, in mine, every country really needs some kind of head of state that’s beyond politics - a sanitised version of leadership, if you will. I very much like the idea of historical leadership; if Britain has any heritage at all then it comes down to its history, to the kings and queens who led the nation into battle, through adversity, and in relatively recent terms, through two world wars. Yes, there was Churchill, and the first thing a grateful country did was throw him out. Had he not managed to sweet-talk the US to come in on the side of the angles, we Brits would today be speaking fluent German - well, fluent’s always doubtful - but you get the picture.

Though practically powerless, royalty today has a different kind of input: it can still galvanise a country into a state of self-respect - at least during the heat of the moment - and make it feel that it does have identity. In Spain, the next-in-line is currently doing her tour of playing a röle in the various armed forces. During her stint aboard a huge sailing ship, there was footage of her scrambling up the rigging, as high and as capable as anyone else except me: I can’t cope with heights. (There are lots of things with which I can't cope, but heights paralyse me.) Anyway, when her ship briefly came ashore somewhere, her mother, the current queen, went there to meet her, and it was beautiful to see mother and daughter throw themselves into one another's arms, just as would any other family. Unadulterated emotion. That’s credibility, humanity at its best. What does the UK get?  Stiff upper lips - from all its members, except the late Diana, the absolutely classical misfit if ever there was one. But hey, that’s how Britain likes its leadership: stiff (hopefully, alive) and practically devoid of the passions of humanity. We want that; it makes us feel strong; emotion equates with weakness, they say.

But yeah, one type of desired benign royalty or another, the nice thing about it, for me, is that it exists through centuries of traditions, training, self-sacrifice and that thing called national identity. I almost wrote wonderful thing, but thought better of that. National identity can also be something very dark. Some hate royalty and look upon it as parasitical. I can’t see it that way. I know only too well that I could never live my life bound by traditions, mores, the inability to have and even perhaps enjoy one’s own little peccadilloes without some shoal of sharks with microphones and cameras trying to find - or at least create - scandal that it can record and syndicate across the world. Imagine the horror of absolute loss of privacy! Not in a million years would I envy any of them. They are, effectively, born to national service, with no honourable way out.

I don't disagree with any of that. A figurehead can fulfill a useful role and the modern British royalty does just that. It's better than worshipping sports or entertainment celebrities, which seem to be the only available alternatives. At least the royals can speak in full grammatically correct sentences, mostly. And if they do something dumb now and then, well so what, who doesn't. The British monarchy is still the head of state for Canada and some of my friends are bothered by that and I can't understand why. If they weren't there, we'd be swearing allegiance to some other arbitrary object or meme, at least the British royals have ties to history. Besides, their kids do military duty, which is more than you can say about other countries' leaders. Friends of mine are not happy about the royals getting taxpayer support, but my understanding is that's only as compensation for duties of office. And anyway, we give taxpayer support to Amazon to build their warehouses and that seems to make sense to some people. It all depends how deep you want to wade in the bullshit.

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« Reply #17135 on: July 06, 2025, 03:06:51 pm »

Outstanding video!
Trump’s mega bill ‘hasn’t even cut taxes, it’s redistributed them’ | Justin Wolfers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7duenc71Uok&list=TLPQMDUwNzIwMjWPWkwwYkSUOw&index=5
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« Reply #17136 on: July 07, 2025, 08:28:38 pm »

You all likely got the email from Social Security praising the changes in SS that are coming. The letter is blatantly partisan and contains several errors. All the errors (of course) make the changes look better for SS recipients than they actually are.
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« Reply #17137 on: July 20, 2025, 09:38:56 pm »

More about Iran from Gwynne Dyer https://gwynnedyer.com/2025/iran-much-ado-about-nothing/. Love the Versailles comment.
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« Reply #17138 on: July 25, 2025, 11:40:34 am »

People are openly talking about Presidential reprisals for comedians or news media who make fun of or report negative things about him. The idea is being normalized right before our eyes. In the USA.

People are now also openly speculating about a pardon for Ghislain in exchange for silence and Congress does not seem to be outraged, which suggests the idea of purchased pardons is also now kind of normalized.

There are reports of gratuitous cruelty at ICE detention centres, and I'm not seeing much outrage about that, so maybe it is being normalized too. I mean, if you put someone in jail, you of course have the right to mistreat them. Especially if they aren't white.

Trump has hawked schlock crap while in office, including meme coins, whatever they are, so that's normal too now, I guess.

Last week, some CEO was caught cuddling with a woman not his wife on a video shot at some concert, and lots of people reacted to this as if it was any of their business. He was asked to resign, so I presume his employment contract had some clause that covered this. So people sign employment contracts that give their employers the right to interfere in their private lives. Way to go.

The reports are that Trump is not happy that a prime time TV show made fun of his johnson. Yup, that's a terrible loss of decorum alright. How could that happen.
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« Reply #17139 on: July 25, 2025, 01:11:07 pm »

so I presume his employment contract had some clause that covered this. So people sign employment contracts that give their employers the right to interfere in their private lives.
It's pretty common here in the UK to have a contract clause that says anything you do that brings the employer into disrepute can be grounds for dismissal.
So really it's pretty dumb, if having an affair, to go somewhere you might be on a big screen and seen by huge audiences. Ironically if they hadn't ducked out of it with embarrassment no one would have put it on social media, so very much an own goal.
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