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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3040 on: November 30, 2020, 08:47:36 pm »

What you say is so often absurd and not taken seriously by so many here; nothing new to report.

Still lost I see. 
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« Reply #3041 on: November 30, 2020, 08:49:18 pm »

Likely the Lameson will connect dogs and bitches in an upcoming post.  :D

Seriously Andrew, is this the best you can do?  I starting to feel sorry for you.

Btw, my wife, who is no part of this had a few pretty choice words for you for calling her a bitch.   You really should be ashamed of yourself, but I’m sure that too is beyond your  ken.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3042 on: November 30, 2020, 08:49:51 pm »

I'm likely tilting at windmills, but maybe you guys could step back, take a breath?    Probably not even my place to say anything, but hope springs eternal.
You make a valid point.
I have learned not to take Craig seriously and while I'm not in need for the ”dreaded” ignore nuclear option, it's pointless to continue paying attention to him (his needs and goal), let's get back on ”topic” whatever it moves towards. Thanks for reality check!
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3043 on: November 30, 2020, 08:57:46 pm »

OK all you self described conservatives:
Trump’s Disgraceful Endgame
By THE EDITORS

What editors?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/

"There are legitimate issues to consider after the 2020 vote about the security of mail-in ballots and the process of counting votes (some jurisdictions, bizarrely, take weeks to complete their initial count), but make no mistake: The chief driver of the post-election contention of the past several weeks is the petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people."


To Alan re what the president says:
Flawed and dishonest assertions like this pollute the public discourse and mislead good people who make the mistake of believing things said by the president of the United States.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3044 on: November 30, 2020, 08:58:34 pm »

Tortured logic? If someone collects your legitimate credit card information and uses that illegally, it does NOT mean that your credit card is fraudulent. It means the person that collected the information and used it in an illegal manner committed an act of fraud. But if you can't see the difference, so be it.
If someone used my card information illegally, then the card isn't fraudulent as you said.  But, the purchase is. Just like the vote.  The ballots could have been printed in the fraudster's basement.  So in that case, it's like the credit card never even existed.  Just like the vote. Your argument is still tortured logic. 

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« Reply #3045 on: November 30, 2020, 08:59:20 pm »

I don’t care, you decide which you are.

We both agree. I don't care either.
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« Reply #3046 on: November 30, 2020, 09:06:38 pm »

OMG, it just gets better;
A new Gallup poll shows that the post-election favorability rating for President Donald Trump has dipped three points over the last month to 42 percent, its lowest since August. Meanwhile, Biden's has risen 6 points to 55 percent, partly due to a doubling in Republican supporters from 6 percent to 12 percent.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3047 on: November 30, 2020, 09:12:20 pm »

Similar to colorectal cancer mail-in test. Sometimes they send the test kits to people who requested it, sometimes even to people who din't request it. Either way, it is a simple, non-invasive and painless procedure. When you get it in the mail, read the instructions, fill in the test kit and mail it in.

 
I didn't know dead people had need for a colon anymore.

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« Reply #3048 on: November 30, 2020, 09:16:57 pm »

We both agree. I don't care either.

Actually, we are all in agreement. No one cares.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3049 on: November 30, 2020, 09:28:04 pm »

Actually, we are all in agreement. No one cares.

Good call.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3050 on: November 30, 2020, 09:55:45 pm »

Wisconsin certified for Biden as well. Trump has five days to file suit, and says he will tomorrow.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-politics-arizona-6a1ec9db67e605e37f73a780e2451f97
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3051 on: November 30, 2020, 10:23:45 pm »

If someone used my card information illegally, then the card isn't fraudulent as you said.  But, the purchase is. Just like the vote.

To continually see you refer to fraudulent "votes" and fraudulent "ballots" without evidence that there was fraud by the voter, in the votes cast, or the ballot that was used seems like a tortured use of both language and logic. The evidence regarding improper collection was the issue and the point at which the word fraud would be applicable.

I would agree that if an unqualified voter cast a ballot then both the votes cast and ballot used would be fraudulent. Extending the use of the word fraud to include everything connected to the act of illegal collection seems a stretch. The ballots that were rejected were printed and sent to the voter—because those were later fraudulently collected mean that they should be described as fraudulently printed and received ballots? After fraudulently being collected, they were deposited in a mailbox; does that mean the mailbox is fraudulent now as well? How far up and down the line do you want to use the label of fraud? The evidence of the crime of fraud was in the collection process; not the printing, receipt, or voting of a ballot.

The ballots could have been printed in the fraudster's basement.  So in that case, it's like the credit card never even existed.  Just like the vote. Your argument is still tortured logic.

Well, something is being tortured. Rather than speculate regarding what may have happened to the ballots before or after collection, how about presenting some evidence as to what happened to them and how many were affected by some sort of fraud that extends beyond how they were collected.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3052 on: November 30, 2020, 10:34:32 pm »

Your analysis is a distinction without a difference.   The judge saw enough fraud that he threw out the election and called for a another election.

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« Reply #3053 on: November 30, 2020, 11:01:51 pm »

This stuff about NJ election fraud is all very interesting, however the rest of us are waiting for even the slightest shred of evidence of election fraud in the recent presidential election. 

Every attempt by Trump to prove his assertions of election fraud has been struck down by the courts, yet he continues to attack the very foundations of democracy by asserting that he won and the votes should be changed.

Why do Americans tolerate this?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3054 on: November 30, 2020, 11:19:26 pm »

This stuff about NJ election fraud is all very interesting, however the rest of us are waiting for even the slightest shred of evidence of election fraud in the recent presidential election. 

Every attempt by Trump to prove his assertions of election fraud has been struck down by the courts, yet he continues to attack the very foundations of democracy by asserting that he won and the votes should be changed.

Why do Americans tolerate this?

Why do Americans tolerate this? Because of ideological blindness. When ideology and personal identity become deeply intertwined and codependent, it takes priority over democracy and country.

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." - David Frum, The Atlantic - January 18, 2018
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #3055 on: December 01, 2020, 01:48:11 am »


Having said that, it is not enough to just suspect fraud, even if theoretically it seems possible, but you have to prove it.

A perfectly reasonable conclusion.

Perhaps, coming from you, Alan will be able to put this business to bed.
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« Reply #3056 on: December 01, 2020, 01:58:47 am »

Yesterday's top 5 countries "new cases" as per Worldometer.

I find the leaders of these countries interesting...

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« Reply #3057 on: December 01, 2020, 03:18:07 am »

Yesterday's top 5 countries "new cases" as per Worldometer.
I find the leaders of these countries interesting...

The US leader is clearly in the front, he's winning all races.
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« Reply #3058 on: December 01, 2020, 03:51:44 am »

Another alt-right Trump moron misusing his freedom of speech:
Quote from: Joe diGenova
Joe diGenova, an attorney for Trump's campaign, said during an appearance on "The Howie Carr Show": "Anybody who thinks the election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity. That guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot."
Rather than this type of hate speech he would be better served to shut up in shame because they fail to provide any real evidence of fraud in court.
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