Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[Alan Klein]

This nonsense from the guy who yesterday told his, he's done with the talk about elections.
"Cheats and hypocrites are those who do everything with words and do nothing with actions".—  Democritus

I'm not going to stop if people keep bashing him and making stuff up. 

[Alan Klein]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Right now Trump with his stupid tweets and phone calls to Fox is ripping your country apart.

Phoney Democrat charges of Russian collusion ripped the country apart.  Were you concerned about that?

[Craig Lamson]

You can search all my posts for that answer. 
Payback is a bitch! 😘

I know exactly were one post is right now dog.  No need to search at all.

[digitaldog]

I'm not going to stop if people keep bashing him and making stuff up.

Your hypocrisy is noted and expected.

[Alan Klein]

Oh Alan, I've been away for two years and you haven't changed one bit. Trump is still great (in your mind) and now also rightfully suspicious.

Only thing I would ask is if you believe all the Trump (campaign) allegations of massive fraud and that Trump won by a landslide. And if your answer to that is "yes" why you think it is the vast majority of lawsuits is either thrown out or withdrawn for lack of evidence. For me the lack of traction in court is the main reason why I qualify most of these statements as "delusional"

Don't get me wrong, voter fraud shouldn't happen but there is no credible data that show the practices of mail-in ballots are really "easier cheated". I think the only thing it does is nullify to some extent the voter supression practices in drawing strange district boundaries and making polling stations hard to reach.

Nice to see you back. I was explaining the suspicion with a lot of voters. Personally, I think he lost even if there was some fraud.  The illegal activity I mentioned where I live was about mail-in voting.  Those guilty were caught stuffing the Post Office mailboxes with phony ballots.  So it's a real problem that's going to get worse.

[digitaldog]

I know exactly were one post is right now dog.  No need to search at all.

I expected no more effort from you then you have proven you cannot produce.
You asked the question.
“If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.”
― Quentin Tarantino, Pulp Fiction

[pegelli]

Phoney Democrat charges of Russian collusion ripped the country apart.  Were you concerned about that?

Nothing phoney about those charges, just look at the number of convictions in that case. The only thing is it could not be proven Trump himself was involved and since the justice system in the western world woks with the presumption of innocence I agree that Trump got off free.

[Alan Klein]

Your hypocrisy is noted and expected.

Your snidely and insulting comments are noted and expected.

[digitaldog]

Nice to see you back. I was explaining the suspicion with a lot of voters. Personally, I think he lost even if there was some fraud.  The illegal activity I mentioned where I live was about mail-in voting.  Those guilty were caught stuffing the Post Office mailboxes with phony ballots.  So it's a real problem that's going to get worse.

Have you yet sent his PAC a check?
Proof of mail in voting sent to his attorneys?

[digitaldog]

Your snidely and insulting comments are noted and expected.

I’m sorry I offended you with my common sense.

[Alan Klein]

Nothing phoney about those charges, just look at the number of convictions in that case. The only thing is it could not be proven Trump himself was involved and since the justice system in the western world woks with the presumption of innocence I agree that Trump got off free.

So you believe he was guilty of collusion.  Nothing new there.

[faberryman]

I'm not going to stop if people keep bashing him and making stuff up.

Nobody expects you to stop. It is who you are. It is the albatross around your neck.

[Craig Lamson]

I expected no more effort from you then you have proven you cannot produce.
You asked the question.
“If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.”
― Quentin Tarantino, Pulp Fiction

If you think I'm wrong then just check your posts for the last few days, and I'll even give you a hint, it was a post from you to me.  It shouldn't be that TOUGH for you.

[Alan Klein]

I’m sorry I offended you with my common sense.

Can't you disagree without being disagreeable? 

[pegelli]

Nice to see you back. I was explaining the suspicion with a lot of voters. Personally, I think he lost even if there was some fraud.

That's great Alan, and there's always some small fraud but usually not enough and significantly below the margin to change the result (except maybe Florida in 2000) 

The illegal activity I mentioned where I live was about mail-in voting.  Those guilty were caught stuffing the Post Office mailboxes with phony ballots.  So it's a real problem that's going to get worse.

I think this is a bit hasty conclusion on an ill designed system. You can build in sufficient verification into the sytem to make mail-in ballots just as secure as in-person ballots. I think the main reason the Republicans are against mail-in voting is because it breaks down some of their carefull crafted voter suppression methods. When I hear them speak about "count every legal vote" I alsways think that's so hypocritical as long as they do everything in their power to make voting for "non-republicans" so difficult. I know this is happening with the blessing from the SCOTUS but in my mind that doesn't make it justified ethically. I also know democrats try to do the same, but they haven't perfected it to an art like the republicans yet.

[digitaldog]

If you think I'm wrong then just check your posts for the last few days, and I'll even give you a hint, it was a post from you to me.  It shouldn't be that TOUGH for you.

Like much of your rants here: CWOBaT (colossal waste of bandwidth and time). So much wrong, so little time or need to illustrate to others. Like your Dominion flat Earth grassy knoll conspiracy ”theory”. Rubbish and absurd no matter the spelling.
Without absurdity, we would have no one to laugh at. Thank you for your daily contributions.

[pegelli]

So you believe he was guilty of collusion.  Nothing new there.

No, to the contrary. If it wasn't proven in court it didn't happen. I think he was smart enough to let the lower echalons do it, only thing he has to do now is pardon them so he can again count on them when he runs in 2024 

[digitaldog]

Can't you disagree without being disagreeable? 

Like Trump? The role model for....More hypocrisy in action.

[digitaldog]

No, to the contrary. If it wasn't proven it didn't happen.

And now, it might.

"Reports that say something hasn't happened are interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
From: Donald Rumsfeld Wins 'Foot in Mouth Award'

[faberryman]

I haven't checked in at Photrio for a couple of weeks. I did so this morning and I have 7,913 unread posts. I'm never going to get through them. A more manageable 210 at Large Format Photography Forum. At Rangefinder Forum just 171. So it looks like the analog guys are the most active by a huge margin. Luckily, there's a mixture of rain and snow this morning, so I won't be going out with my dogs, and I'll have some time to catch up.