Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[faberryman]

One study I read said the places most covid positive claimed visiting were big box stores and restaurants  prior to testing positive .  It was from some State, I just don't remenber which one.

That seems to be reasonable. More people probably go to big box stores and restaurants than to Trump rallies. I stay away from big box stores and restaurants. There are people there.

[Craig Lamson]

Something fishy must have happened...

Valencia County has long streak of picking president

https://www.krqe.com/news/politics-government/elections/valencia-county-has-long-streak-of-picking-president/

NEW MEXICO (KRQE) – The nation’s eyes are on key battleground states like Pennsylvania and Florida but it turns out one New Mexico county holds the longest streak for picking the president. The answer to who will win in the 2020 presidential election may be found in Valencia County. Voters there have voted for the winner since 1952.

PRESIDENT
Valencia County
Candidate                           Votes   Percent
DONALD TRUMP Republican
                                        17,245   54.0%
JOSEPH BIDEN Democrat
                                        14,051   44.0%
Updated: 2 minutes ago
100% reporting

[digitaldog]

More bad news for Trump who got infected with Covid-19 cause he is handling the virus so well.

COVID-19 can invade testicles, University of Miami researchers find. What can this mean?
November 06, 2020 05:28 PM
COVID-19 can invade tissues in the testicles in some men who are infected with the novel coronavirus, according to a new study by a team of University of Miami Miller School of Medicine researchers.
The UM study was published Tuesday in The World Journal of Men’s Health.

Or maybe it will not affect him at all.

[digitaldog]

Something fishy must have happened...

Nope, and as a NM resident since 94, I'm happy to report our state has been blue for awhile. Since 1992, we've only gone red once (for Bush, who in retrospect to Trump, I actually rather miss  ). 

The answer to who will win in the 2020 presidential election may be found in Valencia County. Voters there have voted for the winner since 1952.

We've been voting for presidents since 1912.
Valencia County got smarter like much of the rest of the state this year?
And you'd be smart to examine how it's changed since 1952: The county, which was formerly much larger in area, lost almost 81 percent of its territory in 1981, upon the creation of Cibola County.
Nothing fishy, facts....

[Craig Lamson]

Nope, and as a NM resident since 94, I'm happy to report our state has been blue for awhile. Since 1992, we've only gone red once (for Bush, who in retrospect to Trump, I actually rather miss  ).  We've been voting for presidents since 1912.
Valencia County got smarter like much of the rest of the state this year?
And you'd be smart to examine how it's changed since 1952: The county, which was formerly much larger in area, lost almost 81 percent of its territory in 1981, upon the creation of Cibola County.
Nothing fishy, facts....

Fact is that the county voted for the eventual president since 1952....something changed. It might not have been Valencia which voted 54 Trump to 44 Biden.  So they got smarter?  roflmao!

[digitaldog]

Fact is that the county voted for the eventual president since 1952....something changed.

YES something changed; nearly 4 years with the worst President in modern times.
Currently the facts; Biden has 4 million more votes than Trump. Yeah; something changed. Thankfully.

[Craig Lamson]

YES something changed; nearly 4 years with the worst President in modern times.
Currently the facts; Biden has 4 million more votes than Trump. Yeah; something changed. Thankfully.

Worst?  Really? How did your 401K do prior to the china virus? Your business? Your property values?  Economy in you area? 

I was really happy on all counts, plus the added bonus of three SCOTUS seats and 300 Federal judges.  Not to mention some decent new trade deals.  Then of course YMMV....

I sure hope you are ready financially for the pain Biden and company wants to bring your way.  BTW, most of those 4 million votes are from California alone and of course its a meaningless metric. 

[digitaldog]

401K and property values are meaningless to the 230 thousand dead.
I'd be happy to make $400,000 a year or more and pay additional tax.

[LesPalenik]

1.  Are the positive test results to hospital cases rates falling since the start of the pandemic?
2.  Are the hospitilization rates to intensive care case rates falling since the start of the pandemic?
3.  Are the use of ventilators in intensive care cases falling since the start of the pandimic?
4.  Are doctors providing better treatment options since the start of the pandemic?
5.  Are there better therapeutic treatments available or soon to be available since the start of the pandemic?
6   Are vaccines closer to being available since the start of the pandemic?
7.  Are death rates from Covid lower now since the start of the pandemic?

Infection and death rates in USA are not falling. The numbers for the last 3 days are as follows:
Nov5 - 105,554   1,200
Nov6 - 123,718   1,154
Nov7 - 128,314   1,205   132,540   1,248

The numbers in Canada are also on a rise, but nothing compared to USA.

Stay at home and keep your mask on.

[Craig Lamson]

Infection and death rates in USA are not falling. The numbers for the last 3 days are as follows:
Nov5 - 105,554   1,200
Nov6 - 123,718   1,154
Nov7 - 128,314   1,205

The numbers in Canada are also on a rise, but nothing compared to USA.

Stay at home and keep your mask on.

I never said infection rates and death rates are falling.   

[Craig Lamson]

401K and property values are meaningless to the 230 thousand dead.
I'd be happy to make $400,000 a year or more and pay additional tax.

Perhaps we are lucky it’s only 230K. 

You think people are going to pay more taxes if you make over 400k?  If the Trump tax cuts get reversed, a whole boatload of people who own businesses and make less than 400k will pay higher taxes, I know I’m one of them.   Are you a pass through business?  If so, you will,too.

[digitaldog]

Infection and death rates in USA are not falling. The numbers for the last 3 days are as follows:
Nov5 - 105,554   1,200
Nov6 - 123,718   1,154
Nov7 - 128,314   1,205

The numbers in Canada are also on a rise, but nothing compared to USA.

Stay at home and keep your mask on.

Yeah, USA is tops in a very bad way.
Staying home/masks: amen!

[digitaldog]

Perhaps we are lucky it’s only 230K. 

You think people are going to pay more taxes if you make over 400k?  If the Trump tax cuts get reversed, a whole boatload of people who own businesses and make less than 400k will pay higher taxes, I know I’m one of them.   Are you a pass through business?  If so, you will,too.

Unlucky from deliberate malpractice from the current government.
I have no problem if taxes go up; none. Unlike Trump who paid next to nothing recently.

[Craig Lamson]

Unlucky from deliberate malpractice from the current government.
I have no problem if taxes go up; none. Unlike Trump who paid next to nothing recently.

Well we will never know will we ?  Your opinion on Deliberate and malpractice are duly noted as opinion.

It I remember correctly the NYT stated Trump prepaid over 5 Million in Taxes for the years in question.

And if you are somebody happy to see taxes go up have you forgiven your your Federal tax deductions in the last few years, or ever?  If not your claim appears to be empty rhetoric.

[digitaldog]

It I remember correctly the NYT stated Trump prepaid over 5 Million in Taxes for the years in question.

Your memory is faulty:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html
Trump Paid $750 in Federal Income Taxes in 2017. Here’s the Math.
I'm happy to see taxes go up if well spent. My taxes ending up in Trump's pocket, not at all:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/09/11/trumps-businesses-raked-in-19-billion-of-revenue-during-his-first-three-years-in-office/?sh=5393b3c51e13
Trump’s Businesses Raked In $1.9 Billion Of Revenue During His First Three Years In Office
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/26/754485105/a-look-at-president-trumps-history-of-profiting-off-his-presidency
A Look At President Trump's History Of Profiting Off His Presidency
And no, I don't expect you'll read or accept that he's lined his tiny pockets with yours and my hard earned tax dollars.

[Chris Kern]

And the count continues. It's only 'the leader' who thinks votes for him should be counted, those against are illegal. And we still have zero proof of that of course. Putin would be proud of his prodigy.

Lumpy Trumptweet sat on The Wall.
Lumpy Trumptweet had a great fall.
All Putin's hackers and Rudy's con men
Cannot hoist Trumptweet back up there again.

(Apologies to the Digital Dog for the digital doggerel.)

[Craig Lamson]

Your memory is faulty:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html
Trump Paid $750 in Federal Income Taxes in 2017. Here’s the Math.
I'm happy to see taxes go up if well spent. My taxes ending up in Trump's pocket, not at all:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/09/11/trumps-businesses-raked-in-19-billion-of-revenue-during-his-first-three-years-in-office/?sh=5393b3c51e13
Trump’s Businesses Raked In $1.9 Billion Of Revenue During His First Three Years In Office
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/26/754485105/a-look-at-president-trumps-history-of-profiting-off-his-presidency
A Look At President Trump's History Of Profiting Off His Presidency
And no, I don't expect you'll read or accept that he's lined his tiny pockets with yours and my hard earned tax dollars.

Read NYT article.  You might actually learn something, but my opinion is that’s a long shot

[digitaldog]

Read NYT article.

I did read it; the facts you have ignored again: Trump paid $750 in taxes in 2017 just as I started.

[Craig Lamson]

I did read it; the facts you have ignored again: Trump paid $750 in taxes in 2017 just as I started.

No, actually he paid over  7 million

Let the NYT explain it to you.

The math behind the $750 tax filing

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-750-taxes.html

But tax laws gave him one more line on which to reduce the A.M.T. Mr. Trump had $22.7 million in General Business Credit, much of it carried forward from prior years, that he could apply. The credit is a smorgasbord of tax incentives and givebacks to business owners, and in Mr. Trump’s case they ranged from credits of $322,926 for Social Security and Medicare taxes paid on employee tips to at least $1.5 million related to rehabilitating the Old Post Office in Washington.

The business credit cannot be used to get a refund; it can only be applied against taxes owed. Mr. Trump had more than enough to cancel out his $7,435,857 tax bill. But on the Form 3800 for the General Business Credit, his accountants subtracted $750 from his allowable credit. Why they did that is not clear. But the result was a total federal income tax liability of $750.

[digitaldog]

Lost again:
But the result was a total federal income tax liability of $750.
It is rude to silence a fool, and cruelty to let him go on.