Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[Peter McLennan]

Who are you guys going to blame after Trump is gone?

You! 

[faberryman]

Giuliani and fellow legal team members are spouting off at a press conference going on now. They appear to have moved on from massive voter fraud to a vast election conspiracy among Democrats across the nation to rig the election. Still no proof of anything. Giuliani's brief is due tomorrow in federal court in Pennsylvania.

You've got to love the Daily Mail. Here is how they characterized the press conference:

'Did you all watch My Cousin Vinny?' Sweating Rudy Giuliani presents 'evidence' for 'massive voting fraud' as hair dye runs down his face - alongside 'elite legal strike force' who claim Joe Biden's win is a Venezuelan plot they uncovered on the internet

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8967203/Rudy-Giuliani-presents-evidence-massive-voting-fraud-bizarre-press-conference.html

"What we are seeing is massive influence of Communist money from Venezuela, Cuba and likely China,' he said."

At $20,000 a day, Giuliani can keep this up for a while. No word on how much the other members of this crack team of lawyers are getting paid.

So all the lawyers are at the press conference. Why? Do you need five lawyers for a press conference? Who is actually doing the work?

[James Clark]

Giuliani and fellow legal team members are shooting their mouths off at a press going on now. They appear to have moved on from massive voter fraud to a vast election conspiracy among Democrats across the nation to rig the election. Still no proof of anything. Giuliani's brief is due tomorrow in federal court in Pennsylvania.

Trumpy SuperLawyer Sydney Powell is blaming it on Hugo Chavez.   

[LesPalenik]

Quote from: Robert Roaldi on Today at 12:34:36 pm

You finally answered the original question. So you think that stalling the transfer is a bad move. That didn't hurt, did it?

As for all your other questions about what Biden will do or not do, the voters have given him the mandate to forge ahead. You can decide how well he did after it's over, the same way you did with Trump.

Thats the real question at hand right now...correct?

That is not a question, it is a symptom of a Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD). I knew once a woman with such a disorder, but according to the Cleveland Clinic, PPD appears to be more common in men than women. They interpret anything as a personal attack. Treatment for PPD can be successful, however, most individuals with this condition have trouble accepting treatment.

An individual with paranoid personality behavior is very suspicious of other people. They mistrust the motives of others and believe that others want to harm them. Additional hallmarks of this condition include being reluctant to confide in others, bearing grudges, and finding demeaning or threatening subtext in even the most innocent of comments or events. A person with PPD can be quick to feel anger and feel hostile toward others.

People with paranoid personality disorder don’t believe that their behavior is abnormal. It may seem completely rational to a person with PPD to be suspicious of others. However, those around them may believe this distrust is unwarranted and offensive. The person with PPD may behave in a hostile or stubborn manner. They may be sarcastic, which often elicits a hostile response from others, which may seem to confirm their original suspicions

Other symptoms include:

- believing that others have hidden motives or are out to harm them
- doubting the loyalty of others
- being hypersensitive to criticism
- having trouble working with others
- being quick to become angry and hostile
- becoming detached or socially isolated
- being argumentative and defensive
- having trouble seeing their own problems
- having trouble relaxing[/li][/list]

https://www.healthline.com/health/paranoid-personality-disorder

[Alan Klein]

Then why is he refusing to allow parts of his administration to prepare for transition by doing so?

Ask Guiliani.  He's his consigliere. 

[LesPalenik]

Erin O'Toole from Canada's Conservative Party who is the main rival to Justin Trudeau said he would toughen the country’s stance on China, including potentially boycotting some goods produced there.

Two months ago, the United States announced targeted bans on some goods produced in Xinjiang in an effort to combat China’s use of forced labor by detained Uighur Muslims there. O’Toole said he would consider doing the same, if elected.

However, the first two products to be banned should be garlic and counterfeit batteries. The chinese garlic can be poisonous because it is loaded with toxic chemicals and often produced under questionable circumstances. The fake batteries don't hold their charge and can explode when you least expect it.

Some of the labor behind garlic production in China comes from prisoners. The hours are long, and according to former prisoners, "the pungent acids in the garlic can melt detainees’ fingernails, exposing stinging flesh. Those who can no longer use their hands bite off the garlic skins with their teeth."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics/main-rival-to-canada-pm-trudeau-says-he-would-be-tougher-on-china-may-boycott-some-goods-idUSKBN27Z2TP?il=0

[Alan Klein]

Erin O'Toole from Canada's Conservative Party who is the main rival to Justin Trudeau said he would toughen the country’s stance on China, including potentially boycotting some goods produced there.

However, the first two products to be banned should be garlic and counterfeit batteries. The chinese garlic can be poisonous because it is loaded with toxic chemicals and often produced under questionable circumstances. The fake batteries don't hold their charge and can explode when you least expect it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics/main-rival-to-canada-pm-trudeau-says-he-would-be-tougher-on-china-may-boycott-some-goods-idUSKBN27Z2TP?il=0

They say there's a huge trade in body parts from prisoners there as well. 

[LesPalenik]

They say there's a huge trade in body parts from prisoners there as well.

That would explain the large number of executions in China. 1,000 deaths there compared with 251 in Iran, 184 in Saudi Arabia, 100 in Iraq and 22 in USA (none in Australia, Canada and UK).
Do they harvest body parts only from criminals or also from political activists?  I read reports that found evidence of "forced organ harvesting" from Chinese prisoners. Apparently, this has been going on a significant scale for a long time, but China has said that the practice has been outlawed, replaced with a system of "voluntary donations".

A 2015 documentary claimed China’s illegal organ transplant industry is worth $1 billion each year—but China insists that forced extractions have stopped, that its efforts to reform date back to 2010, with a system of voluntary donations replacing forced organ harvesting from prisoners.

Not so, says the BMC article, claiming that China is “artificially manufacturing organ transplant donation data.” The report says its findings mean that any trust in China’s organ harvesting system “has been violated,” that the reforms were “a mask for the continued use of non-voluntary donors or donors who are coerced into giving organs.” In short, the allegation is that the new system of voluntary donations operates alongside and not instead of forced extractions. The giveaway, according to the report, is patterns in the state’s data which are too neat to be genuine—they must be falsified.

Sources behind the forensic data analysis deployed by the report’s authors included the China Organ Transplant Response System (COTRS) and the Red Cross Society of China. Data that found mathematical patterns that defy expected statistical anomalies. In others words, the official China reports emanate from a PR spreadsheet and not from any kind of genuine on the ground analysis and genuine data.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/11/16/china-covers-up-killing-of-prisoners-to-harvest-organs-for-transplant-new-report/?sh=962b54b2ec7c

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I'll just leave this here. Hopefully our forum friends from the very top of the list will take notice

https://dailynewshungary.com/how-lazy-are-hungarians-here-is-the-list-of-laziest-countries-in-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR1t5SKdy8UBN9_6csVue_8Ne3qK4jxD_mmZg5UpDunhc4GU9RKemv2xxHs

[Alan Klein]

That would explain the large number of executions in China. 1,000 deaths there compared with 251 in Iran, 184 in Saudi Arabia, 100 in Iraq and 22 in USA (none in Australia, Canada and UK).
Do they harvest body parts only from criminals or also from political activists?  I read reports that found evidence of "forced organ harvesting" from Chinese prisoners. Apparently, this has been going on a significant scale for a long time, but China has said that the practice has been outlawed, replaced with a system of "voluntary donations".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/11/16/china-covers-up-killing-of-prisoners-to-harvest-organs-for-transplant-new-report/?sh=962b54b2ec7c

I'm sure it's all above-board.  "Give a Kidney to Help Celebrate Mao's Birthday."

[Frans Waterlander]

History and facts from History: https://www.history.com/topics/us-politics/joe-biden

Ah, the History Channel, who brought us the Ancient Alien series. Oh, wait, Biden is an alien? Makes sense.
The History Channel also brought us The Curse of Oak Island, touted as the most science-based program on TV, I kid you not! That program is just a Jerry Seinfeld show in disguise: a program about nothing. Not my words, Jerry's.

[LesPalenik]

Sure Trump should be discussing those things with Biden.  But that doesn't answer the question. How we're going to get out of the twin issues of the disease and a failing economy.  What is Biden going to do that's different than what Trump did?  What are the governors of the states going to do that is different?  The bouncing back and forth between closing and opening their states' economies doesn't seem to help anything.  Rates of illness are going up at the same time that more and more people are losing their jobs and businesses. The horns of a dilemma.  Are we stuck waiting for the vaccines?

If Trump hasn't got time or wisdom to answer the questions, he could turn to the new Storyfile app. This website has come up with an artificial intelligence alternative to the holiday tradition: an interactive website where Santa Claus answers questions as if in person.

“The database has about 180, 200 questions so they can ask him quite a lot,” said Storyfile Chief Executive Heather Smith. “The No. 1 question so far is ‘Am I on the naughty or nice list?”
Santa has already fielded many questions about the pandemic. “If a child has asked me ‘Santa, is there any chance that you might come down with coronavirus?’, I tell them, like anybody else, I do exactly what I’m supposed to,” he said.

“I wear my gloves, I wash my hands, I social distance, I wear my mask. I just reiterate the important things that they’re hearing regularly.”

Depending on the response to the free app, Santa’s skills may be expanded to store Trump's questions and Kayleigh McEnany's answers for the next year.

[Alan Klein]

If Trump hasn't got time or wisdom to answer the questions, he could turn to the new Storyfile app. This website has come up with an artificial intelligence alternative to the holiday tradition: an interactive website where Santa Claus answers questions as if in person.

Depending on the response to the free app, Santa’s skills may be expanded to store Trump's questions and Kayleigh McEnany's answers for the next year.

Well, Trump will be too busy with his new TV program:  The Apprentice President. 
"You're fired."

[LesPalenik]

Well, Trump will be too busy with his new TV program:  The Apprentice President. 
"You're fired."

He certainly gained a lot of relevant practice in the last 4 years.

[Alan Klein]

He certainly gained a lot of relevant practice in the last 4 years.

It will be a natural.

[digitaldog]

Ah, the History Channel, who brought us the Ancient Alien series.

So you've watched it?

[Frans Waterlander]

So you've watched it?

How would I otherwise know? And yes, a couple of minutes was all I could handle, like watching a trainwreck.

[James Clark]

So Trump's lawyers were in court today admitting that sedition is the plan, and that the will of the people should be ignored. Trump and his crew are actual honest-to-God traitors / wannabe dictators.

[LesPalenik]

So Trump's lawyers were in court today admitting that sedition is the plan, and that the will of the people should be ignored. Trump and his crew are actual honest-to-God traitors / wannabe dictators.

and while Trump is playing golf, pushing more lies and engaging in these shenanigans instead of dealing with the C19, the virus has rounded the corner and has killed today first time over two thousands Americans.

[digitaldog]

How would I otherwise know? And yes, a couple of minutes was all I could handle, like watching a trainwreck.

Ah, so that one show invalidates the URL which spells out the facts of what Biden has accomplished; as expected from you, an OT comment and a desire to ignore the facts that dismiss what you wrote. You've learned the art of deflection from data and facts well from Trump.
Now dismiss these guys who've outlined Biden's accomplishments:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joe-Biden