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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #13500 on: January 09, 2022, 12:00:06 am »

And yet, you fabricated the claim that he was fired—by Nancy Pelosi. Just like you fabricated the claim that she hired him. Just like you have fabricated so many other claims.

It's easy to understand why—you don't care whether your assertions are false. You've even explained to us why you don't care. You've told us that there is no such thing as truth and that facts are just opinions. The proof that you don't care is shown in your insistence on incessant repetition of false assertions that have been shown to you to be false.

Now... I'll get you a fresh crying towel for your upcoming reply. I mean replies, as whatever it is, you're sure to repeat it over and over and over...
I'll let the readers decide if the commander of the Capitol Police and the Sergeants at Arms of the Senate and the House were fired.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/7/capitol-police-face-shake-after-failure-fend-mob-p/

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« Reply #13501 on: January 09, 2022, 12:27:22 am »

Sure, why not? Your link says that they all resigned.

Your fabrications about Nancy Pelosi hiring, firing, and being in charge of the Capitol Police Chief are still fabricated bullshit.

Now, go about repeating the same BS as is your habit.
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« Reply #13502 on: January 09, 2022, 02:20:23 am »

Just to help you out with your it's Nancy Pelosi's fault narrative. The three member Capitol Police Board, which governs the Capitol Police and its Chief, on January 6, 2021 was comprised entirely of members elected by a Republican controlled House, Republican controlled Senate, or appointed by Trump.

Capitol Police Board on January 6, 2021

• Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives Paul D. Irving assumed office January 17, 2012 after being elected by the Republican majority House. He resigned January 7, 2021.

• Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate Michael C. Stenger assumed office April 16, 2018 after being elected by the Republican majority Senate. He resigned January 7, 2021.

• Architect of the Capitol Brett Blanton was nominated by Donald Trump and confirmed by the Republican majority Senate on December 19, 2019. He assumed office January 16, 2020 and is currently serving the remainder of his 10-year term.

Chief of the Capitol Police on January 6, 2021

• Chief of the Capitol Police Steven Sund was appointed as Chief by the Capitol Police Board and assumed office on June 14, 2019. He resigned January 7, 2021 with resignation effective on January 16, 2021.

Title 2, U.S. Code § 1901 - Establishment; officer appointments — There shall be a Capitol police... The Capitol Police shall be headed by a Chief who shall be appointed by the Capitol Police Board and shall serve at the pleasure of the Board.

Or... As you've been narrating it... All under the control of Nancy Pelosi.
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« Reply #13503 on: January 09, 2022, 09:48:30 am »

Just to help you out with your it's Nancy Pelosi's fault narrative. The three member Capitol Police Board, which governs the Capitol Police and its Chief, on January 6, 2021 was comprised entirely of members elected by a Republican controlled House, Republican controlled Senate, or appointed by Trump.

Capitol Police Board on January 6, 2021

• Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives Paul D. Irving assumed office January 17, 2012 after being elected by the Republican majority House. He resigned January 7, 2021.

• Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate Michael C. Stenger assumed office April 16, 2018 after being elected by the Republican majority Senate. He resigned January 7, 2021.

• Architect of the Capitol Brett Blanton was nominated by Donald Trump and confirmed by the Republican majority Senate on December 19, 2019. He assumed office January 16, 2020 and is currently serving the remainder of his 10-year term.

Chief of the Capitol Police on January 6, 2021

• Chief of the Capitol Police Steven Sund was appointed as Chief by the Capitol Police Board and assumed office on June 14, 2019. He resigned January 7, 2021 with resignation effective on January 16, 2021.

Title 2, U.S. Code § 1901 - Establishment; officer appointments — There shall be a Capitol police... The Capitol Police shall be headed by a Chief who shall be appointed by the Capitol Police Board and shall serve at the pleasure of the Board.

Or... As you've been narrating it... All under the control of Nancy Pelosi.
Thanks for clarifying that Republicans appointed them especially the House Sergeant of Arms Paul Irving where Pelosi is the speaker. That does lessen the possibility that a Democrat influenced the situation that left the Capitol Police undermanned and ineffective to stop the trespass into the Capitol building.

What I want to know is what Irving meant when he told Sund that the "optics" would be bad if Sund got more police help from other sources for the Jan 6th demonstration? Because of a lack of police presence to a large enough degree, they were undermanned and incapable of keeping control and order.  Were they prepared, we wouldn't even be talking about this now. That's why I have my suspicions.  Something doesn't seem right about the way this played out. 

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« Reply #13504 on: January 11, 2022, 11:24:42 am »

TVO interview with an academic who has studied QAnon and how it disseminates its beliefs, https://www.tvo.org/video/how-qanon-ensnared-america. I don't know if this video is blocked in countries other than Canada. It's about 30 min long.

Here's the blurb from the landing page: "It's been a year since the attack on the U.S. Capitol, and the participation in it of many QAnon followers. In the book,"Pastels And Pedophiles: Inside the Mind of QAnon," Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalenko explain in-depth how the group attracted such a huge following across America, and beyond. Why has QAnon flourished during the pandemic? Who are the believers? And how has QAnon infiltrated Canada? Co-author Mia Bloom speaks to Steve Paikin from Atlanta, Georgia, where she's a communications professor at Georgia State University."

(I had forgotten about the Jewish space lasers thing.)
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« Reply #13505 on: January 12, 2022, 09:30:08 am »

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Good or bad, Biden and the Democrats are in charge and responsible.  They own the government, both the executive and legislative branches.  They can't blame anyone else for what happens in the country and world.

I've been meaning to ask you about your seemingly recent conversion to holding leaders to account for what happens while they're in office. During Trump's time, you blamed almost everyone except Trump for Covid problems, the CDC, the Chinese, WHO, the Governors (well, the Democrat ones anyway), but not Trump even though he was in charge and was repeatedly making lame statements about Covid ("..it will just go away..."). What caused you to change your approach to this? You can see how a reader could arrive at a cynical interpretation.
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« Reply #13506 on: January 12, 2022, 09:40:53 am »

I've been meaning to ask you about your seemingly recent conversion to holding leaders to account for what happens while they're in office.
What caused you to change your approach to this? You can see how a reader could arrive at a cynical interpretation.
Again, if you want a reasonable answer, ask a reasonable person. Readers here after all this time and the nonsense Alan has posted for over a year could arrive at a cynical interpretation? How can they not come to this conclusion would be a more reasonable question back at you <g>. The only reason to ask this fellow a question is to engage more of his posting rubbish here and that will soon be demonstrated…..wait for it….wait for it…..
Asking him a question here is akin to handing a horny teenage boy a stack of porno magazines and a huge jar of lube. Not that I’m knocking a teenage boy’s hobbies, just Alan’s only hobby.
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« Reply #13507 on: January 12, 2022, 12:04:20 pm »

I've been meaning to ask you about your seemingly recent conversion to holding leaders to account for what happens while they're in office. During Trump's time, you blamed almost everyone except Trump for Covid problems, the CDC, the Chinese, WHO, the Governors (well, the Democrat ones anyway), but not Trump even though he was in charge and was repeatedly making lame statements about Covid ("..it will just go away..."). What caused you to change your approach to this? You can see how a reader could arrive at a cynical interpretation.
I complained a lot about Trump.  He was (is) a spendthrift.  He caused a lot of inflation and debt.  He attacked people who he needed to get things done like Republican Sen John McCain.  He is not easy to listen to.  I often shut him off when he started to go on and on.  I complained that he carried a lot of private baggage from who he was and is. He's got a big mouth and is insulting. He's a bull in a China shop.  I also said I would never work for him as I did other real estate developers in NYC because I don't trust him to get paid. 

His positive comments about Covid will go away are what politicians say all the time. They're supposed to be positive and encouraging.  The public looks to leaders for hope and inspiration that things will get better.  Obama was very good at that as was Reagan.

The important thing is he did things to help like NAavy hospital ships, building temporary hospitals where needed, and starting Operation Warp Speed to get the vaccines sooner than expected.  The problem is you never gave him any credit at all.  Unfortunately, Biden does everything the opposite for political reasons even if Trump's methods were good.  Such as with the southern border illegal immigration or the Keystone pipeline.  Biden reversed policies that were working.  That's just plain stupid.  Now, the public sees him as an ineffective leader and just plain wrong in what he does.  He shot himself in the foot.

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« Reply #13508 on: January 12, 2022, 12:20:37 pm »

Asking him a question here is akin to handing a horny teenage boy a stack of porno magazines and a huge jar of lube. Not that I’m knocking a teenage boy’s hobbies, just Alan’s only hobby.
Just when I thought you couldn't outdo yourself. Congratulations on the new low.
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« Reply #13509 on: January 12, 2022, 01:11:19 pm »

Just when I thought you couldn't outdo yourself. Congratulations on the new low.
At least unlike you, Alan can produce snapshots.
This is a photography site; why are you here?
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« Reply #13510 on: January 12, 2022, 01:32:25 pm »

I often shut him off when he started to go on and on.

That's an idea that I'm trying to apply right here in these threads.
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« Reply #13511 on: January 12, 2022, 03:10:41 pm »

Unfortunately, Biden does everything the opposite for political reasons even if Trump's methods were good.

Nope. That's what Republicans do.  McConnell even copped to doing exactly that, saying something like  "We'll do everything we can to ensure that Obama doesn't succeed."

Great way to run a country. Party first, America second.  How's that working out?

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« Reply #13512 on: January 12, 2022, 04:12:34 pm »

Nope. That's what Republicans do.  McConnell even copped to doing exactly that, saying something like  "We'll do everything we can to ensure that Obama doesn't succeed."

Great way to run a country. Party first, America second.  How's that working out?


are you kidding? The Democrats have spent six years trying to destroy Trump, his presidency, calling him a traitor and investigating him for two years for collusion and then impeaching him twice. Now that he's no longer president they're still going after him trying to bury him legally.  TDS.

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« Reply #13513 on: January 12, 2022, 04:14:33 pm »

Just when I thought you couldn't outdo yourself. Congratulations on the new low.
Andrew is going to drive this website into Oblivion as everyone leaves and apparently the owner doesn't care.

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« Reply #13514 on: January 12, 2022, 04:52:31 pm »

Democrats playing the race card again.  Even civil rights activists like Stacy Abrams are distancing themselves from the Biden who now they see him as an impediment to their election success in the future. When Republicans did similar things, Trump went after them campaigning against them.  I don't think Biden has the stomach to do the same.

Are You With Joe Biden, or Jefferson Davis?
Every official in America, President Biden said Tuesday, has a choice: “Do you want to be on the side of Dr. [Martin Luther] King or George Wallace? Do you want to be on the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be on the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?” Seriously, he said that grandiloquent nonsense.

Mr. Biden’s speech in Georgia was a call to bulldoze the Senate’s filibuster to pass a rebranded version of H.R.1, a bill that would impose a federal election code on all 50 states, including forcing them to count late mail ballots that lack postmarks. If you happen to think that’s a bad idea, or that it’s unconstitutional, or that nuking the filibuster would hurt the Senate, well, then apparently you’re against Abraham Lincoln.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-you-with-joe-biden-or-jefferson-davis-georgia-voting-rights-filibuster-11641943418

Abrams noticeably absent from Biden’s voting rights push
During a day that was shrouded in the city’s legacy as a bastion of the Civil Rights Movement, the absence of one of the nation’s most prominent voting rights activists created something of an awkward moment.

For Biden, it was an unexpected snub at a time when he faces mounting vulnerabilities, including skepticism from Black voters who elected him and now question his dedication to their priorities. And for Abrams, who once openly lobbied Biden to pick her as his vice president, her absence left the impression that she was now distancing from the leader of her party as she campaigns for Georgia governor.

https://apnews.com/article/voting-rights-joe-biden-voting-atlanta-stacey-abrams-7bb6e8cd4ad78267cc56d713ecdbf39d

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« Reply #13515 on: January 12, 2022, 05:21:38 pm »

When people stop reading, watching, or listening to something or someone; it's often due to boredom. How often does someone want to listen to the same songs played on repeat; over, and over, and over... by people oblivious and immune to their own boring repetition.
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« Reply #13516 on: January 12, 2022, 06:05:01 pm »

When people stop reading, watching, or listening to something or someone; it's often due to boredom. How often does someone want to listen to the same songs played on repeat; over, and over, and over... by people oblivious and immune to their own boring repetition.
I agree.  I remember reading here for years from the same posters how Trump was a traitor and colluded with the Russians, over and over and over again.  They're still repeating the same old stuff about him even though he's out of office for a year. 

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« Reply #13517 on: January 12, 2022, 06:08:50 pm »

Buy a mirror.
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« Reply #13518 on: January 12, 2022, 06:10:23 pm »

Well, the final figure for inflation is in for December 2021.  Those who argued here earlier we weren't beating 14-year-old rates, have to accept that we are now beating 40-year-old rates dating back to 1982. - 7%.  Europe isn't off the hook.  Their inflation rate was 5%.

Inflation at 40-year high pressures consumers, Fed and Biden
https://apnews.com/article/consumer-prices-inflation-c1bfd93ed1719cf0135420f4fd0270f9

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« Reply #13519 on: January 12, 2022, 06:17:55 pm »

Well, the final figure for inflation is in for December 2021.  Those who argued here earlier we weren't beating 14-year-old rates, have to accept that we are now beating 40-year-old rates dating back to 1982. - 7%.  Europe isn't off the hook.  Their inflation rate was 5%.

Inflation at 40-year high pressures consumers, Fed and Biden
https://apnews.com/article/consumer-prices-inflation-c1bfd93ed1719cf0135420f4fd0270f9

Porsche Taycan Turbo 2022 price is over $177,000. But they offer now complimentary and touchless home delivery.
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