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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2020, 01:02:12 am »

Ceased forums you've brought up that have no bearing; OT again Frans. No luck anywhere on any forums with 'Sensor heat'?  :o
Like many in these parts and others; plenty are not paying attention to your fantasies and requests. 😭
Let me spell it out for you why I referred to the now-defunct forums of Shutterbug and Popular Photography: the way the LuLa forum is going with it's hateful postings, not the least of which by you, it may very well go the same route.
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2020, 09:02:53 am »

Let me spell it out for you why I referred to the now-defunct forums of Shutterbug and Popular Photography: the way the LuLa forum is going with it's hateful postings, not the least of which by you, it may very well go the same route.
Let me spell it out for you; it's not happening now. Despite your ongoing FUD.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2020, 01:29:17 pm »

LuLa is well on the way of the Shutterbug and Popular Photography forums, whether you acknowledge that or not.

It isn't, and I don't.

If you and Andrew don't stop bickering, one or both of you will be suspended. I've had enough of this playground abuse.

Jeremy
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2021, 10:31:27 am »

Important news.

It seems that the Forum moderator expressed some skepticism  about one of LuLa's authors, based on the moderator's own experience on a workshop led by that author. LuLa's owner has retaliated by removing the (unpaid) moderator and his account from LuLa.

I expect that my post here will get me removed from LuLa as well. If so, I will be greatly disappointed, since I have made many good friends on LuLain the years I have been here.

-Eric Myrvaagnes
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2021, 02:05:49 pm »

I expect that my post here will get me removed from LuLa as well. If so, I will be greatly disappointed, since I have made many good friends on LuLain the years I have been here.

-Eric Myrvaagnes

Eric, I really don't see why or what would make you fear that. But to correct the record, Jeremy was not removed from LuLa, his account and posts are there for all to see (barring his last somewhat distasteful meltdown) and AFAIK, his exile is self inflicted.

His persistent snarky and disparaging attitude was called out by this site’s owner. It had been called out by others before. The site he’s absconded to is all but moribund, so let’s hope he’ll reflect, reform and be back to his old effervescent self soon - a reformed man, but not as moderator.
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2021, 02:20:01 pm »

Eric, I really don't see why or what would make you fear that. But to correct the record, Jeremy was not removed from LuLa, his account and posts are there for all to see (barring his last somewhat distasteful meltdown) and AFAIK, his exile is self inflicted.

His persistent snarky and disparaging attitude was called out by this site’s owner. It had been called out by others before. The site he’s absconded to is all but moribund, so let’s hope he’ll reflect, reform and be back to his old effervescent self soon - a reformed man, but not as moderator.

Indeed.
And thanks for putting in the labour to explain.

Josh
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2021, 02:57:26 pm »

His persistent snarky and disparaging attitude was called out by this site’s owner. It had been called out by others before.
Yes, I can see that but it didn't bother me FWIW. However, I do believe, and Josh may or may not agree, a moderator should do his/her job and say as little about it, publicly as possible. The "Stop Bickering" comment didn't ruffle my feathers at all, but he could have said this via PM. I think going forward, the less said publicly about moderation, the better.
Just do it.
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2021, 03:11:59 pm »

Yes, I can see that but it didn't bother me FWIW. However, I do believe, and Josh may or may not agree, a moderator should do his/her job and say as little about it, publicly as possible. The "Stop Bickering" comment didn't ruffle my feathers at all, but he could have said this via PM. I think going forward, the less said publicly about moderation, the better.
Just do it.
I do agree.
There is no need for posturing or displays of power.

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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2021, 03:24:21 pm »

Eric, I really don't see why or what would make you fear that. But to correct the record, Jeremy was not removed from LuLa, his account and posts are there for all to see (barring his last somewhat distasteful meltdown) and AFAIK, his exile is self inflicted.

His persistent snarky and disparaging attitude was called out by this site’s owner. It had been called out by others before. The site he’s absconded to is all but moribund, so let’s hope he’ll reflect, reform and be back to his old effervescent self soon - a reformed man, but not as moderator.


What a bunch of bullshit!

Dealing with the likes of you has been a tough, thankless, and unpaid job done splendidly over the years.

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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2021, 03:45:10 pm »

What a bunch of bullshit!
Dealing with the likes of you has been a tough, thankless, and unpaid job done splendidly over the years.
And now we have an excellent example of a post that needs some moderation.
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2021, 03:59:35 pm »

And now we have an excellent example of a post that needs some moderation.


Perhaps this negates my last response related to not posturing - but let me be clear, and I hope I won't have to repeat it. We are entering an era here at Lula where I will no longer tolerate toxic and inflammatory behavior. I will not be capricious and I will do my best to be fair. But I am done with bullies and people who sully the site. And no, there is no relativism when it comes to bullies. I'll use my judgment.

It's a photography site.
It's a social media forum - disagreements, even heated ones will happen. But there is a dug-in culture by a few that needs to be rooted out. I have no compunction or fear about doing so. I happen to know it will help ventilate the site. Voices are being silenced by the noisy and aggressive ones.

I leave it to each member to decide where they want to fit here. Healing, helping, developing the dialogue even when it's frustrating? Or degrading it inch by inch.
Choose wisely.

Josh


 
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2021, 04:03:16 pm »

Let's see how this progresses. I applaud progress.
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2021, 04:06:13 pm »


Perhaps this negates my last response related to not posturing - but let me be clear, and I hope I won't have to repeat it. We are entering an era here at Lula where I will no longer tolerate toxic and inflammatory behavior. I will not be capricious and I will do my best to be fair. But I am done with bullies and people who sully the site. And no, there is no relativism when it comes to bullies. I'll use my judgment.

It's a photography site.
It's a social media forum - disagreements, even heated ones will happen. But there is a dug-in culture by a few that needs to be rooted out. I have no compunction or fear about doing so. I happen to know it will help ventilate the site. Voices are being silenced by the noisy and aggressive ones.

I leave it to each member to decide where they want to fit here. Healing, helping, developing the dialogue even when it's frustrating? Or degrading it inch by inch.
Choose wisely.

Josh


 
Personal attacks should not be acceptable. Let's disagree without being disagreeable. 

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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2021, 04:08:03 pm »

Personal attacks should not be acceptable. Let's disagree without being disagreeable.
So with both agree:
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What a bunch of bullshit!
Dealing with the likes of you has been a tough, thankless, and unpaid job done splendidly over the years.
... is that's exactly the tone that needs moderation?
Also stating others called you a liar when they never did, isn't acceptable as well?
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2021, 05:30:16 am »

Re. Jeremy's contribution ...
[it] has been a tough, thankless, and unpaid job done splendidly over the years.

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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2021, 05:42:34 am »

What a bunch of bullshit!

Dealing with the likes of you has been a tough, thankless, and unpaid job done splendidly over the years.

-1  :-)
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Re: Politics, again.
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2021, 10:54:41 am »


Perhaps this negates my last response related to not posturing - but let me be clear, and I hope I won't have to repeat it. We are entering an era here at Lula where I will no longer tolerate toxic and inflammatory behavior. I will not be capricious and I will do my best to be fair. But I am done with bullies and people who sully the site. And no, there is no relativism when it comes to bullies. I'll use my judgment.

It's a photography site.
It's a social media forum - disagreements, even heated ones will happen. But there is a dug-in culture by a few that needs to be rooted out. I have no compunction or fear about doing so. I happen to know it will help ventilate the site. Voices are being silenced by the noisy and aggressive ones.

I leave it to each member to decide where they want to fit here. Healing, helping, developing the dialogue even when it's frustrating? Or degrading it inch by inch.
Choose wisely.

Josh


 
Since we seem to be starting out anew, I'm dropping all Ignores and will hope that posts going forward won't have personal attacks.

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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2021, 12:49:52 pm »

Since we seem to be starting out anew, I'm dropping all Ignores and will hope that posts going forward won't have personal attacks.

I think that is a healthy approach. Let's see if we can refresh.
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