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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2020, 05:49:35 pm »

Political Concerns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting#Political_concerns

"In 2004 and 2005, people from PBS and NPR complained that the CPB was starting to push a conservative agenda. Board members replied that they were merely seeking balance. Polls of the PBS and NPR audiences in 2002 and 2003 indicated that few felt that the groups' news reports contained bias, and those who saw a slant were split as to which side they believed the reports favored."

"The charge of a conservative agenda came to a head in 2005. Kenneth Tomlinson, chair of the CPB board from September 2003 until September 2005, angered PBS and NPR supporters by unilaterally commissioning a conservative colleague to conduct a study of alleged bias in the PBS show NOW with Bill Moyers, and by appointing two conservatives as CPB Ombudsmen. On November 3, 2005, Tomlinson resigned from the board, prompted by a report of his tenure by the CPB Inspector General, Kenneth Konz, requested by Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives. The report was made public on November 15. It states:

We found evidence that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) former Chairman violated statutory provisions and the Director's Code of Ethics by dealing directly with one of the creators of a new public affairs program during negotiations with the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) and the CPB over creating the show. Our review also found evidence that suggests "political tests" were a major criteria [sic] used by the former Chairman in recruiting a President/Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for CPB, which violated statutory prohibitions against such practices."

Objectivity and balance requirements

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"The Public Broadcasting Act of 1967 requires the CPB to operate with a "strict adherence to objectivity and balance in all programs or series of programs of a controversial nature". It also requires it to regularly review national programming for objectivity and balance, and to report on "its efforts to address concerns about objectivity and balance"."
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2020, 07:07:02 pm »

The current Board of Directors for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has eight members. Five of the current board members were appointed by that crazy radical liberal Donald Trump including the Chairman.[/url]
That sound you heard, from facts provided, is Alan and Russ's heads exploding.  ;D
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2020, 12:36:42 am »

Changes at the top at PBS may change,  but their left leaning bias hasn't.

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2020, 09:16:27 am »

Changes at the top at PBS may change,  but their left leaning bias hasn't.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2020, 09:21:35 am »

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."-Carl Sagan
I've watched PBS all my life.  I draw my own conclusions from what I've seen.  It's like color, let's say flesh tones.  Do you need someone else to tell you when it's not right?

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2020, 09:31:05 am »

I've watched PBS all my life.  I draw my own conclusions from what I've seen.  It's like color, let's say flesh tones.  Do you need someone else to tell you when it's not right?
”left leaning bias”.
Again, no proof, no facts. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." --Mark Twain
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2020, 10:01:19 am »

”left leaning bias”.
Again, no proof, no facts. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." --Mark Twain
I got the facts first hand from my watching it.  I don't need others' bias opinions to tell me what I saw.  You're just sealioning me. Have a nice day, Andrew.

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2020, 10:11:40 am »

I got the facts first hand from my watching it.  I don't need others' bias opinions to tell me what I saw.  You're just sealioning me. Have a nice day, Andrew.
Without data, you're just a person with an opinion.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2020, 12:09:30 pm »

Without data, you're just a person with an opinion.
He just told you that he has watched them his whole life. That's data, and oodles of it.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2020, 12:14:01 pm »

He just told you that he has watched them his whole life. That's data, and oodles of it.
Seems the concept of data and proof of data has once again confused you.

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2020, 12:22:10 pm »

Our local PBS station shows reruns of The Lawrence Welk Show every Saturday night. Does that qualify as left wing?
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2020, 12:35:02 pm »

That's data, and oodles of it.
Shocking, coming from someone who in just one silly post demanding here actual (hard) data has said:

So, there you have it and I'm still looking for actual test data.

In case you wonder what the data I'm looking for might look like, here is an example. "Camera X from manufacturer Y has 14 stops of dynamic range when just powered up at room temperature.

And again, no hard data, just opinions.

Like Alan.  ;D

A while back I tried to get hard data on sensor heating in mirrorless cameras and resulting noise increase/dynamic range decrease.
Anybody aware of real data?

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2020, 01:21:45 pm »

Our local PBS station shows reruns of The Lawrence Welk Show every Saturday night. Does that qualify as left wing?
Must be due to all that pot....  ;D
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2020, 01:57:21 pm »

Must be due to all that pot....  ;D
One Toke Over the line

Now that video was funny! It begins with Myron Floren trying to clear his throat while introducing the song (One toke too many during the break?) and ends with Welk saying, "There you heard a modern spiritual by Gail and Dale."

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2020, 02:12:49 pm »

Well Welk would be happy with Biden/Harris's "new green deal": Marijuana Decriminalization nationally. That's a green deal I can sign onto.  8)
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/biden-administration-will-pursue-marijuana-decriminalization-vp-pick-harris-says/
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« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2020, 02:41:45 pm »

Well, that settles it. No more Lawrence Welk for me. Commies. Just conservative shows from now on. Is Downton Abbey conservative? They did let that chauffeur marry one of the daughters so it makes me wonder. Maybe This Old House. Charlie Rose got kicked off for sexual harassment. That’s conservative, isn’t it? Must be. Everyone is doing it over at Fox. All the shows are sponsored by really rich people with foundations. They’re Republicans, right? Life is so complicated I don’t even know what shows to watch. If Trump wins, I’m cancelling my cable anyway. I can’t take four more years of that fat orange face lying to me every time I turn on the TV, so the problem may solve itself. Trump is even worse than the guy trying to sell you Flexi Seal rubberized paint so you can install screen doors on the bottom of your boat. I bought some and I don't even have a boat. Or screen doors.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2020, 04:30:45 pm »

Well, that settles it. No more Lawrence Welk for me. Commies. Just conservative shows from now on. Is Downton Abbey conservative? They did let that chauffeur marry one of the daughters so it makes me wonder. Maybe This Old House. Charlie Rose got kicked off for sexual harassment. That’s conservative, isn’t it? Must be. Everyone is doing it over at Fox. All the shows are sponsored by really rich people with foundations. They’re Republicans, right? Life is so complicated I don’t even know what shows to watch. If Trump wins, I’m cancelling my cable anyway. I can’t take four more years of that fat orange face lying to me every time I turn on the TV, so the problem may solve itself. Trump is even worse than that guy trying to sell you that rubberized paint so you can install screen doors on the bottom of you boat, and that’s saying a lot.
If Trump loses you won't want to watch anymore.  Biden will bore everyone to death and all the cable shows will go broke with no one watching them.  Jeremy will shut down the Coffee Corner and we'll all have to start taking pictures again.

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2020, 04:34:24 pm »

If Trump loses you won't want to watch anymore.  Biden will bore everyone to death and all the cable shows will go broke with no one watching them.  Jeremy will shut down the Coffee Corner and we'll all have to start taking pictures again.
Even more reason to vote Biden.
Of course, peaceful transfer of power? Neither Trump or Pence will agree to do so when repeatedly asked.
Unlike you, I never stopped making pictures.  ::)
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2020, 04:36:02 pm »

Even more reason to vote Biden.
Of course, peaceful transfer of power? Neither Trump or Pence will agree to do so when repeatedly asked.
Actually it would be better to stop politics for awhile.  We're all caught up in too much of it.

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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2020, 04:38:40 pm »

Actually it would be better to stop politics for awhile.  We're all caught up in too much of it.
Speaking for everyone again; unnecessary and tiring.
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