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PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« on: September 27, 2020, 12:40:54 am »

Every presidential election season since 1988, the PBS documentary series Frontline has produced a biographical documentary which profiles the Democratic and Republican nominees. This week The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden premiered and is available for free streaming.

The two-hour program can be viewed on the PBS Frontline website along with lots of additional material. The extras include transcripts or videos from the full length interviews conducted and behind-the-scenes material.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2020-trump-vs-biden

It is also available on YouTube. Below are links to the trailer and the full video.

https://www.youtube.com/TRAILER: "The Choice 2020: Trump vs. Biden" | FRONTLINE

https://www.youtube.com/The Choice 2020: Trump vs. Biden (full film) | FRONTLINE

There are also full length interviews from the documentary available on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/c/frontline/videos

I found it informative and well worth watching.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 10:58:41 am »

Unfortunately apparently blocked outside of the US.  Time to fire up the VPN.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 01:31:23 pm »

Good documentaries, though I doubt anyone's vote will change. Can you imagine a Trumper saying: "Gosh, this Biden seems like a nice guy, I think I'll vote for him. Hey honey, will you toss my MAGA hat?"

Speaking of hats, I noticed that Biden has some hats for sale on his website. I doubt anyone has bought one. What does it say about you when you want to wear a hat with a candidate's name or slogan on it? Same goes for bumper stickers. I was waiting at the light yesterday, and the car in front of me had a Trump sticker on the rear bumper. I wondered whether the guy actually thought someone might vote for Trump if they saw a Trump sticker on his car? Yard signs are particularly problematic. Put one in your yard and maybe your neighbor who supports the other candidate will stop saying hello to you when you walk your dog, or even let the air out of your tires late one night.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2020, 01:49:45 pm »

Good documentaries, though I doubt anyone's vote will change. Can you imagine a Trumper saying: "Gosh, this Biden seems like a nice guy, I think I'll vote for him. Hey honey, will you toss my MAGA hat?"

Speaking of hats, I noticed that Biden has some hats for sale on his website. I doubt anyone has bought one. What does it say about you when you want to wear a hat with a candidate's name or slogan on it? Same goes for bumper stickers. I was waiting at the light yesterday, and the car in front of me had a Trump sticker on the rear bumper. I wondered whether the guy actually thought someone might vote for Trump if they saw a Trump sticker on his car? Yard signs are particularly problematic. Put one in your yard and maybe your neighbor who supports the other candidate will stop saying hello to you when you walk your dog, or even let the air out of your tires late one night.
No one's buying Biden hats because no one cares about him. People are voting for Trump or against Trump.  You could get as many votes as Biden.  Even without a hat. :)

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2020, 01:58:25 pm »

No one's buying Biden hats because no one cares about him.
No one, used twice in one sentence filled with generalizations: speaking for everyone, a sure sign of the absurd and the absurd is the last refuge of a pundit without an argument.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2020, 02:21:46 pm »

No one, used twice in one sentence filled with generalizations: speaking for everyone, a sure sign of the absurd and the absurd is the last refuge of a pundit without an argument.
Did you buy one of his hats?

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2020, 02:51:09 pm »

Did you buy one of his hats?
Nope. Nor do you speak for me or others, a fact your question illustrates you can't grasp.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2020, 03:44:00 pm »

Good documentaries, though I doubt anyone's vote will change. Can you imagine a Trumper saying: "Gosh, this Biden seems like a nice guy, I think I'll vote for him. Hey honey, will you toss my MAGA hat?"

Speaking of hats, I noticed that Biden has some hats for sale on his website. I doubt anyone has bought one. What does it say about you when you want to wear a hat with a candidate's name or slogan on it? Same goes for bumper stickers. I was waiting at the light yesterday, and the car in front of me had a Trump sticker on the rear bumper. I wondered whether the guy actually thought someone might vote for Trump if they saw a Trump sticker on his car? Yard signs are particularly problematic. Put one in your yard and maybe your neighbor who supports the other candidate will stop saying hello to you when you walk your dog, or even let the air out of your tires late one night.

I agree about hats, bumper stickers, etc. What's the point? I do think some of the MAGA clowns enjoy getting in other people's faces, sorta like in high school.
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Re: PBS Frontline - The Choice 2020 Trump vs. Biden
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2020, 03:48:56 pm »

I agree about hats, bumper stickers, etc. What's the point? I do think some of the MAGA clowns enjoy getting in other people's faces, sorta like in high school.
They made it all the way to high school? 😁
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/11/11/poorly-educated-voters-hold-the-keys-to-the-white-house
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2020, 04:53:20 pm »

I have tons of free hats which for me are mostly for utility. I try to avoid any slogans or advertising on my hats, especially if It's not free.
If I'm buying, it's to keep me warm or keep the sun off my face (which has had too much already).

But I'm all in for Biden, even if he does not reflect my personal philosophies exactly. He's much closer to them than the alternative. As a centrist that is his appeal to a broad variety of people.
What's most important to me is he is a decent person who cares about all Americans, not just the ones that support him. He is relatable, reasonable, and calculated.
Really, that's enough for me. We aren't getting married, we are choosing from a very short list of who we would rather be governed by and it's no contest.

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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2020, 06:01:33 pm »

I have tons of free hats which for me are mostly for utility. I try to avoid any slogans or advertising on my hats, especially if It's not free.
If I'm buying, it's to keep me warm or keep the sun off my face (which has had too much already).

But I'm all in for Biden, even if he does not reflect my personal philosophies exactly. He's much closer to them than the alternative. As a centrist that is his appeal to a broad variety of people.
What's most important to me is he is a decent person who cares about all Americans, not just the ones that support him. He is relatable, reasonable, and calculated.
Really, that's enough for me. We aren't getting married, we are choosing from a very short list of who we would rather be governed by and it's no contest.


Biden's dropped his middle of the road politics and has swung far left. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2020, 06:11:28 pm »

Biden's dropped his middle of the road politics and has swung far left.
Even better if true (which it is not)!
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2020, 06:14:24 pm »

They made it all the way to high school? 😁
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2019/11/11/poorly-educated-voters-hold-the-keys-to-the-white-house

Gee, nice post.  How many "poorly educated" minority folks make up the backbone of the Democratic Party?
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2020, 06:41:38 pm »

Gee, nice post.  How many "poorly educated" minority folks make up the backbone of the Democratic Party?
You can ask them to count the jelly beans in the jar before you allow them to vote.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2020, 06:47:38 pm »

Biden's dropped his middle of the road politics and has swung far left.

Not far enough for me but it's a step in the right direction.
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2020, 07:25:19 pm »

You can ask them to count the jelly beans in the jar before you allow them to vote.

You know Andrew, these “poorly educated “ folks who you openly mocked make your life possible, regardless of who they vote for.

They grow your food, deliver it to market, process it, stock it on shelves and the bag it after you buy it.  They keep your lights on, your water running and your internet working.  They build and repair your car.  The build and maintain your roads.  They build and repair the home, your hvac, they cut your hair, they might even mow your lawn.  The list goes on and on.

Without them you are toast.  Never forget it.

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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2020, 07:28:04 pm »

You know Andrew, these “poorly educated “ folks who you openly mocked make your life possible, regardless of who they vote for.
I'm not mocking them, I'm mocking you. "Poorly educated" minority folks that make up the backbone of the Democratic Party?, really?
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/

According to exit polls, 61 percent of non-college-educated white voters cast their ballots for Republicans while just 45 percent of college-educated white voters did so. Meanwhile 53 percent of college-educated white voters cast their votes for Democrats compared with 37 percent of those without a degree.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 07:37:10 pm »

I'm not mocking them, I'm mocking you. "Poorly educated" minority folks that make up the backbone of the Democratic Party?, really?
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/

According to exit polls, 61 percent of non-college-educated white voters cast their ballots for Republicans while just 45 percent of college-educated white voters did so. Meanwhile 53 percent of college-educated white voters cast their votes for Democrats compared with 37 percent of those without a degree.

No, you openly mocked “ poorly educated “ voters in your initial post.  Learn to live with your abject failure. 

And yes, without the minority voters the Democratic party goes nowhere.  Again learn to deal with your shortcomings.   
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2020, 07:40:34 pm »

No, you openly mocked “ poorly educated “ voters in your initial post.  Learn to live with your abject failure. 
You got it wrong, again. You used the langauge, copy and paste: How many "poorly educated" minority folks make up the backbone of the Democratic Party? Your shortcomings.
And you got the facts about the party wrong too.
Rule on holes; when you are deep inside one, stop digging.
My initial post: No one, used twice in one sentence filled with generalizations: speaking for everyone, a sure sign of the absurd and the absurd is the last refuge of a pundit without an argument.
I am again, openly mocking you. Adiós
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2020, 07:46:45 pm »

You got it wrong, again. You used the langauge, copy and paste: How many "poorly educated" minority folks make up the backbone of the Democratic Party? Your shortcomings.
And you got the facts about the party wrong too.
Rule on holes; when you are deep inside one, stop digging.
My initial post: No one, used twice in one sentence filled with generalizations: speaking for everyone, a sure sign of the absurd and the absurd is the last refuge of a pundit without an argument.
I am again, openly mocking you. Adiós

If that works for you go for it.  It’s your sop.  Your original post speaks for itself.  Your distain in is on full display.  But then again, that’s pretty common as well.

Of course you again missed the fact that the post I quoted of yours on this subject ( poorly educated voters = your initial post)  degrade those whom it seems you think are beneath you.   Again all on full display. 
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