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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2020, 11:25:20 pm »

Just found out it is now blazin fast on new hardware: it uses the GPU and the CPU; only a few seconds to stack 10  46MP images.
(You have to go in the preferences to tune it)

Unfortunately they don't support Quadro cards, but the software is really great.

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« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2020, 04:40:16 pm »

As I mentioned in a post in the articles section, when you append Lightroom with "Classic", that means the end of the road. Idiots. I will never, ever use Lightroom CC. In my mind, it's amateur driven, not pro. Others may argue that's not the case, but I do personally know any pros who would exclusively store and work with their image library/catalog in a cloud-based environment. Can someone really tell me that's more reasonable to use than local when going through hundreds of gigabytes of images? My average week long catalog shoot produces 500-750GB of images.

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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2020, 04:41:54 pm »

As I mentioned in a post in the articles section, when you append Lightroom with "Classic", that means the end of the road. Idiots.
"All generalizations are false, including this one." -Mark Twain
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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2020, 04:51:54 pm »

While you are more far knowledgeable than I about Adobe and its inner workings, I stick to my original assertion -- Classic = Death. Otherwise, why not use Lightroom CC for desktop and Lightroom Cloud for it's dreaded counterpart?

Perhaps you meant to use this quote instead  ;D:

"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2020, 04:55:58 pm »

While you are more far knowledgeable than I about Adobe and its inner workings, I stick to my original assertion -- Classic = Death.
You are most welcome to you assumptive opinions. My understanding of an assertion is: a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief.
Without facts and data, you are just someone with an opinion.
Yes, the reports of LR's death are greatly exaggerated mostly by people who are looking for attention by posting about topics they have no direct understanding of. Nothing new on the net.  ;D
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2020, 02:08:40 pm »

While you are more far knowledgeable than I about Adobe and its inner workings, I stick to my original assertion -- Classic = Death. Otherwise, why not use Lightroom CC for desktop and Lightroom Cloud for it's dreaded counterpart?


Two different products for two different audiences is the simple answer.  For some Lightroom Classic was too much club. For others Google/Apple Photos wasn't enough.  For those people there is the Lightroom Ecosystem (Desktop, Mobile and Web). For those who need more/different there is Lightroom Classic.  Both products have robust teams and active development.
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2020, 04:37:38 pm »

Thanks, Rikk!!! 
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« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2020, 06:03:07 pm »

I didn't say that I thought Photoshop and Lightroom were not as useful as days gone by or that I desired to argue with the Digital Dog over semantics once more ... I was simply offering that there is considerable dead weight, duplication and outright cruft in the code that we call Photoshop and hoped that game plan wouldn't be the future for Lightroom Classic as well.

Heck, there are plenty of apps now for mobile devices that can achieve many of the tasks photographers desire with a far smaller footprint and much more modest use of resources. I'm not saying those apps are totally on par with Ps ... only that their code base and footprint can achieve more with less effort by comparison.

I don't think it's too much to ask for a solution that is leaner, meaner and more efficient to take us into the next 3 or more decades. Maybe it's time to re-think the database structure for Lightroom since much has changed in technology since it was first written. Or should it take several more decades to reach that point?

Cost of rewrite is huge, cost of maintenance is huge. A company needs to evaluate cost versus benefit with their products. Right when Adobe's cost of maintaining and enhancing their old code base is greater than the cost of a rewrite...we'll see a new product...until then computers are always getting faster and cheaper.
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2020, 08:47:07 am »

... Both products have robust teams and active development.


And ... both teams (and their respective end users) suffer from the same inept, verbally challenged marketing department that confuses more issues then they solve.
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2020, 10:04:14 am »

And ... both teams (and their respective end users) suffer from the same inept, verbally challenged marketing department that confuses more issues then they solve.


I used to go away for weeks in a state of confusion.-Albert Einstein
When a man's knowledge is not in order, the more of it he has the greater will be his confusion.- Herbert Spencer
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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2020, 11:37:56 am »

And ... both teams (and their respective end users) suffer from the same inept, verbally challenged marketing department that confuses more issues then they solve.
Seriously?   Is anyone forcing you to use LR?
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2020, 01:10:49 pm »

I am a bit confused by the way to make default develop-profiles now...
Had all iso's covered for my d850 and then they change it in such a way that i don't even understand how to use the new version.
have to add some text here and there i believe...
I wait with upgrading till they have changed that for something frontend that i can understand.

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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2020, 01:57:33 pm »

I am a bit confused by the way to make default develop-profiles now...
Had all iso's covered for my d850 and then they change it in such a way that i don't even understand how to use the new version.
have to add some text here and there i believe...
I wait with upgrading till they have changed that for something frontend that i can understand.

https://laurashoe.com/2020/02/11/whats-new-in-lightroom-classic-9-2-raw-defaults/
Video: https://youtu.be/XGCnR9qEqA4
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2020, 04:24:52 pm »

I use and like several products of the Adobe Creative Cloud. Having said that, I find the naming product strategy strange. First they add the CC and say the names of the product don't need to change, then they add the year because they are different versions, then they remove the "CC" maybe because there is no point.

In regards to Lightroom, If you are going to offer a lighter version because "For some Lightroom Classic was too much club. For others Google/Apple Photos wasn't enough. ", then why you don't name it Lightroom lite or cloud instead of changing the name of the full featured version?

And finally, you have a Senior Director of product development who publicly declares that the perpetual licence of lightroom will be offered indefinetly, but a few years later it turns out it wasn't true.

So yes, there is absolutely no justification for people to speculate and be confused.

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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2020, 03:03:40 am »

And finally, you have a Senior Director of product development who publicly declares that the perpetual licence of lightroom will be offered indefinetly, but a few years later it turns out it wasn't true.

It's only untrue if one thinks "indefinitely" means "forever", but you can't blame folk for wishful thinking.
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2020, 08:03:53 am »

alas
I don't blame her if see doesn't grasp it...

It does feel unfinished. For a couple of workarounds, see http://lightroomsolutions.com/iso-dependent-presets/ and especially the link in the comments.
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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2020, 08:43:57 am »



I used to go away for weeks in a state of confusion.-Albert Einstein
When a man's knowledge is not in order, the more of it he has the greater will be his confusion.- Herbert Spencer

"How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?" -Satchel Paige
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2020, 08:44:44 am »

Seriously?   Is anyone forcing you to use LR?

Is anyone forcing you to read my posts or respond to them?
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Re: Lightroom Classic future
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2020, 08:49:13 am »

Is anyone forcing you to read my posts or respond to them?
Or take you seriously? No.
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