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Ray

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6860 on: August 12, 2020, 09:57:07 am »

Is Kamala Harris 1/3rd white (Irish), 1/3rd brown (Indian) and 1/3rd black (Negro)?

I can't find any definite information about this on the internet. Whilst her mother appears to be a full-blooded Indian, her father, Professor Donald Harris, who emigrated from Jamaica to the US, doesn't appear to be black.

The British colonized Jamaica in the 17th century. Sugar cane became the main crop, which was very labor-intensive to grow and harvest, so the British imported lots of African slaves. However, Donald Harris has written that he is descended from Hamilton Brown who was a slave owner and from Northern Ireland.

Attached is a photo of Donald.



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« Reply #6861 on: August 12, 2020, 10:02:17 am »

Is Kamala Harris 1/3rd white (Irish), 1/3rd brown (Indian) and 1/3rd black (Negro)?

I'm not sure I really care. Is this like a Pocohantas outing?
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« Reply #6862 on: August 12, 2020, 10:26:52 am »

I heard the Russians developed a vaccine they called Sputnik. Would you take a vaccine called Sputnik?   :o   It may not stop Covid, but it makes you vote for Trump in November. (Moved from the other thread where I posted it by mistake.)

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« Reply #6863 on: August 12, 2020, 10:38:35 am »

I heard the Russians developed a vaccine they called Sputnik. Would you take a vaccine called Sputnik?   :o   It may not stop Covid, but it makes you vote for Trump in November. (Moved from the other thread where I posted it by mistake.)

Who cares what the vaccine is called? Is that a reason not to take it? Perhaps he named it Sputnik to arouse patriotic feeling in the citizenry so more people would be inclined to get vaccinated, so fewer would catch the virus and die.
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« Reply #6864 on: August 12, 2020, 10:41:26 am »

Who cares what the vaccine is called? Is that a reason not to take it? Perhaps he named it Sputnik to arouse patriotic feeling in the citizenry so more people would be inclined to get vaccinated, so fewer would catch the virus and die.
Who cares what the vaccine is called? Is that a reason not to take it? Perhaps he named it Sputnik to arouse patriotic feeling in the citizenry so more people would be inclined to get vaccinated, so fewer would catch the virus and die.
My joke was clearly over your head.

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« Reply #6865 on: August 12, 2020, 10:46:47 am »

Great idea!  Let's skip the debates* and go straight to the treadmill.

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*Just the presidential ones, however.  It would be gratuitously painful to ask the public to watch two inarticulate old guys trying to outdo each other in mangling the English language.  But I'm really looking forward to the televised debate on Oct. 7 between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence: the litigator v. the ideologue.
If Biden skips the debates, he'll only confirm his senility to the voters.  The claim will be be that's why he pulled out of the debates.  He has to do the debates and show he can handle himself to bury that concern.  If he fails the test, then Americans should be concerned with his ability to handle the job. 

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« Reply #6866 on: August 12, 2020, 10:51:30 am »

If Biden skips the debates, he'll only confirm his senility to the voters.  The claim will be be that's why he pulled out of the debates.  He has to do the debates and show he can handle himself to bury that concern.  If he fails the test, then Americans should be concerned with his ability to handle the job.

Biden agreed to do the debates months ago. Trump finally agreed to do them last week.
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Alan Klein

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« Reply #6867 on: August 12, 2020, 10:54:55 am »

Alan - that is the point - the author is writing about politics in general - not about their own politics. You (and I'm not really singling you out personally in this) are exactly the subject of the author.  You see everything as left or right, Rep or Dem, black or white.  Everything.

Jim

He wasn't writing about politics in general.  His whole article was anti-Trump and anti-Republican favoring Democrat policies.  You have gotten so use to anti-Trump and anti-Republican news, you think it's not biased when done.   I think you ought to re-read it. 

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« Reply #6868 on: August 12, 2020, 10:55:18 am »

If Biden skips the debates, he'll only confirm his senility to the voters.  The claim will be be that's why he pulled out of the debates.  He has to do the debates and show he can handle himself to bury that concern.  If he fails the test, then Americans should be concerned with his ability to handle the job.

From this side of the Atlantic, it seems that all Biden needs to do is keep quiet, Trump will lose the election all by himself, thanks to his "tremendous" achievements. IMO, it is not hard to find someone more competent than Trump, can´t get any lower.

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« Reply #6869 on: August 12, 2020, 10:56:58 am »

Could you please be a bit more nuanced in your criticism of the consequences of Trump’s decisions?

Because what you describe is exactly the result of his decisions, more so than any president before him.

Cheers,
Bernard
I agree that Trump is acting more Socialist than anyone else in government.  AOC should praise him.

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« Reply #6870 on: August 12, 2020, 11:01:50 am »

I agree that Trump is acting more Socialist than anyone else in government.  AOC should praise him.

Always with the labels.
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« Reply #6871 on: August 12, 2020, 11:03:30 am »

My joke was clearly over your head.

Either that or maybe you are not that funny after all.
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« Reply #6872 on: August 12, 2020, 11:05:23 am »

I'm not sure I really care. Is this like a Pocohantas outing?
Well, if her ancestors weren't slaves but rather slave owners, it raises the question whether she most represents American blacks whose ancestors were in fact slaves.  It becomes important because apparently, we're picking political candidates based on the color of their skin and their ancestry which I think is abhorrent for America.  This dividing us up into groups by race, gender, etc won't end well for the country.

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« Reply #6873 on: August 12, 2020, 11:08:58 am »

Well, if her ancestors weren't slaves but rather slave owners, it raises the question whether she most represents American blacks whose ancestors were in fact slaves.  It becomes important because apparently, we're picking political candidates based on the color of their skin and their ancestry which I think is abhorrent for America.  This dividing us up into groups by race, gender, etc won't end well for the country.

OMG. Really?  Has anyone seen her long-form birth certificate? Maybe she was born in Kenya? When you get her ancestry all nailed down, be sure to let us know.
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« Reply #6874 on: August 12, 2020, 11:13:45 am »

Well, if her ancestors weren't slaves but rather slave owners, it raises the question whether she most represents American blacks whose ancestors were in fact slaves.  It becomes important because apparently, we're picking political candidates based on the color of their skin and their ancestry which I think is abhorrent for America.  This dividing us up into groups by race, gender, etc won't end well for the country.

When people choose non-whites they're choosing for racial reasons. But when they choose rich fat white guys, that's ok and normal. What divides people is statements like the one you just made.
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« Reply #6875 on: August 12, 2020, 11:14:33 am »

I'm not sure I really care. Is this like a Pocohantas outing?

Precisely.  Who the eff cares?  Why is this even remotely important?
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« Reply #6876 on: August 12, 2020, 11:16:30 am »

  This dividing us up into groups by race, gender, etc won't end well for the country.

That's why you have to get rid of Trump who has divided the nation like no other president. So much unrest in your country.
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« Reply #6877 on: August 12, 2020, 11:31:21 am »

When people choose non-whites they're choosing for racial reasons. But when they choose rich fat white guys, that's ok and normal. What divides people is statements like the one you just made.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
...from Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech delivered 28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.

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« Reply #6878 on: August 12, 2020, 11:35:55 am »

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
...from Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech delivered 28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.

That's rich. You and Ray are the only ones around here concerned about her ancestry
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« Reply #6879 on: August 12, 2020, 11:41:35 am »

That's rich. You and Ray are the only ones around here concerned about her ancestry
All the pundits on cable TV are talking about nothing but her color.  All the Democrats were demanding that Biden pick no one but a Black woman, which he did.  It was based on gender and race.  Your dismissal of her ancestry isn't supported by the facts. 
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