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JoeKitchen

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« Reply #620 on: March 19, 2020, 10:33:54 pm »

I get a feeling Joe would be relieved if people start dying in droves.

Chez, seriously?  How dare you be so ignorant to suggest that. 

You just showed exactly how much of an ignorant you are with this comment. 

I reported you to the moderator over this. 
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« Reply #621 on: March 19, 2020, 10:58:41 pm »

A map to show your friends who don’t understand why we keep the distance

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« Reply #622 on: March 19, 2020, 11:00:26 pm »

With that said, I think the real limit here is two, possibly three, months.  Since this only kills the elderly and those with other conditions, that is the real limit for everyone else to become numb to death to the point where they just move on.  It be different if healthy people were being killed here. 

I just watched interviews with two doctors on CBC and they said two things:
1. Although the older people are more susceptible to the virus, there are also many people between 20 and 50 who get sick.
2. Even if you get through the disease, you don't develop an absolute immunity against it, and can contract it again.
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« Reply #623 on: March 19, 2020, 11:01:33 pm »

Otherwise there is another advantage to slowing this down. In my hospital there are big positive steps in how to deal with this more effectively, steps that wouldn’t have been possible without the extra time.
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« Reply #624 on: March 19, 2020, 11:03:42 pm »

A map to show your friends who don’t understand why we keep the distance

Good poster, especially for dummies. They should show it every day a few times on TV and put in the store windows.
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« Reply #625 on: March 19, 2020, 11:12:01 pm »

I think it is inevitable, and just like in Italy, that is when people will start to take this seriously enough to self-isolate, especially without a clear plan that explains exactly how long this will last. 

It is inevitable if people behave like Italians, but the deaths can be drastically reduced if the situation is handled like in South Korea.
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« Reply #626 on: March 19, 2020, 11:13:01 pm »

It's going to be close to 80° here tomorrow where I live. Maybe it'll help kill the virus.

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« Reply #627 on: March 19, 2020, 11:29:02 pm »

It's going to be close to 80° here tomorrow where I live. Maybe it'll help kill the virus.

Or maybe not.  As of today, both Florida and New Jersey show exactly nine Covid-19 fatalities.
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« Reply #628 on: March 19, 2020, 11:51:44 pm »

Nothing wrong with a little optimism in such a situation.

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« Reply #629 on: March 20, 2020, 12:00:23 am »

Sorry, but I just don't believe people in the US are so naive. Have they not seen what's happening in Italy...and this is even after drastic isolation measures. I give people more credit than that.
Not everyone in the US agrees with Joe Kitchen.
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« Reply #631 on: March 20, 2020, 12:51:34 am »

Nothing wrong with a little optimism in such a situation.

I don't think Covid-19 is swayed by optimism.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo
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« Reply #633 on: March 20, 2020, 01:18:44 am »

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« Reply #634 on: March 20, 2020, 02:26:34 am »

The biggest problem and stress factor is the uncertainty.
Putting up for a specific time with the stay-at-home policy wouldn't be such a problem if there is a light at the end of the tunnel, but the uncertainty and not being able to trust your own government in handling the crisis is the main issue.
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« Reply #635 on: March 20, 2020, 03:28:29 am »



Try not to worry.

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« Reply #636 on: March 20, 2020, 04:03:45 am »

I get a feeling Joe would be relieved if people start dying in droves.

That is a truly nauseating comment. Retract it immediately and apologise.

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« Reply #637 on: March 20, 2020, 05:29:08 am »

Not everyone in the US agrees with Joe Kitchen.

For all of your sakes, I hope you are right!

That said, perhaps Joe has developed a special immunity to disease: as he constanly refers to flies dropping dead (as if it were an everyday, visible occurance), let me say up front that without the use of a spray, I have never seen flies or even mosquitoes fall down and die. He must live in one helluva backwoods swamp to have that many flies and to have had the opportunity of watching so many fall down dead. Maybe that's where the next pestilence will arise: from all those dead flies.

Sky News today showed a filmed report of the inside of the hospìtal in Bergamo, Italy, and brief interviews - in English - with some staff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo

And this and its figures coming from a country will free medical care for all. It seems the US population has been granted a "temporary" close approximation to that now - I wonder if it marks the time when it will become permanent, when the poor will refuse to allow themselves to be dumped back on the trash again. (Remember, guns are not the province of the comparatively rich alone. So it may be a result of having them so widely available that at last, protection from your own govt, is actually what they will achieve.)
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« Reply #638 on: March 20, 2020, 05:32:54 am »

People in Italy only stayed inside after death was clearly behind the walls, which is how I feel the rest of the world will go, especially given the idea we can just lock it down without an end game. 

It is inevitable if people behave like Italians ...

And just hw exactly did the Italians behave ?
I think you both should be more careful not just over what you post but the manner in which you phrase it.

The Italians are barely one month into this. Isolation measures are into their third week. They moved with speed. No-one, surely, could help but be moved by the sight of army convoys moving the dead to temporary morgues under cover of night. 41,035 cases, 3,405 dead.

@Joe: Think about it and do us all a favour and stick your ignorance where it belongs. IIRC, you're married to an Italian - repeat 1/3 of your postings in Italy, if you ever go, and don't be in the least surprised 'si ti mandano nel tuo paese' or worse.

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« Reply #639 on: March 20, 2020, 05:40:50 am »

And just hw exactly did the Italians behave ?
I think you both should be more careful not just over what you post but the manner in which you phrase it.

The Italians are barely one month into this. Isolation measures are into their third week. They moved with speed. No-one, surely, could help but be moved by the sight of army convoys moving the dead to temporary morgues under cover of night. 41,035 cases, 3,405 dead.

@Joe: Think about it and do us all a favour and stick your ignorance where it belongs. IIRC, you're married to an Italian - repeat 1/3 of your postings in Italy, if you ever go, and don't be in the least surprised 'si ti mandano nel tuo paese' or worse.



Trust me, much, much worse and final.
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