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Re: After The Acquittal
« Reply #160 on: February 20, 2020, 02:45:35 pm »

Trump only releases old friends...

And whites only - at least according to the loony left, like Chelsea Handler.

In fact, of the 11 on the pardoned and commuted list, there are three black women and one Latina.

So, in the interest of combating Fake News that are apparently reaching the Netherlands, here is the full list:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-2/

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« Reply #161 on: February 20, 2020, 02:51:01 pm »

You can't vote for anyone. We'll decide if you have to put up with another four years of Trump.

You have done this several times on these pages, attempting to shut someone down by reason of their nationality. It is tiresome. These forum threads are for the voicing of opinions and discussion, and it is a Canadian hosted site besides. If you don't like the fact that non Americans voice their opinions about some things, you are going to have to get over it.
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Re: After The Acquittal
« Reply #162 on: February 20, 2020, 03:02:21 pm »

You have done this several times on these pages, attempting to shut someone down by reason of their nationality. It is tiresome. These forum threads are for the voicing of opinions and discussion, and it is a Canadian hosted site besides. If you don't like the fact that non Americans voice their opinions about some things, you are going to have to get over it.
Well, I'm voicing my opinion. The fact is you can squeal all you want about Trump but you don't get to vote against him. That's the point I'm making.  The fact you're not an American means that what happens here has much less affect on you.  Plus your rationale against Trump as a foreigner may be different than what Americans look at. Finally, if you don't like the fact that Americans voice their opinions about some things, you are going to have to get over it.

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« Reply #163 on: February 20, 2020, 10:31:30 pm »

Well, I'm voicing my opinion. The fact is you can squeal all you want about Trump but you don't get to vote against him. That's the point I'm making.  The fact you're not an American means that what happens here has much less affect on you.  Plus your rationale against Trump as a foreigner may be different than what Americans look at. Finally, if you don't like the fact that Americans voice their opinions about some things, you are going to have to get over it.

No one, including me, has ever sought to stop you from giving your opinion, and you know it. Stop twisting other people's words.
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Re: After The Acquittal
« Reply #164 on: February 24, 2020, 05:05:01 am »

Illustration for the "world hates Trump" narrative - Trump arrives to India:

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« Reply #165 on: February 24, 2020, 08:59:21 am »

Illustration for the "world hates Trump" narrative - Trump arrives to India:


The NY Times doesn;t even mention his trip on their front page this morning.  The "fake news" press at it again.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/24/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf

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« Reply #166 on: February 24, 2020, 11:35:08 am »

Illustration for the "world hates Trump" narrative - Trump arrives to India:


There may be a handout in it, and freak shows are always interesting if you have nothing better to do with your time.

On the other hand, the crowds are bigger for cricket.

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« Reply #167 on: February 24, 2020, 12:21:04 pm »

The NY Times doesn;t even mention his trip on their front page this morning.  The "fake news" press at it again.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/24/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf
The New York Times has two stories with photographs of Trump's trip to India up on its digital site. Perhaps they were waiting for him to actually do something besides going for a ride in a plane before providing coverage.
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« Reply #168 on: February 24, 2020, 03:08:17 pm »

The New York Times has two stories with photographs of Trump's trip to India up on its digital site. Perhaps they were waiting for him to actually do something besides going for a ride in a plane before providing coverage.
We'll see what happens with tomorrow's headlines in their actual newspaper.  Digital is BS.  In any case, I just looked on Google News.  Not one article about the trip to India.  So I checked Google World news.  Same.  No articles.  MAybe it will change by the time your click it. 
https://news.google.com/topics/CAAqJggKIiBDQkFTRWdvSUwyMHZNRGx1YlY4U0FtVnVHZ0pWVXlnQVAB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

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« Reply #169 on: February 24, 2020, 03:18:15 pm »

We'll see what happens with tomorrow's headlines in their actual newspaper.  Digital is BS.  In any case, I just looked on Google News.  Not one article about the trip to India.  So I checked Google World news.  Same.  No articles.  MAybe it will change by the time your click it. 
https://news.google.com/topics/CAAqJggKIiBDQkFTRWdvSUwyMHZNRGx1YlY4U0FtVnVHZ0pWVXlnQVAB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
The digital version of the New York Times is just fine. Updated stories throughout the day. I clicked on your link and the second article shown was Trump and Melania's visit to the the Taj Mahal.
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« Reply #170 on: February 24, 2020, 03:23:59 pm »

The digital version of the New York Times is just fine. Updated stories throughout the day. I clicked on your link and the second article shown was Trump and Melania's visit to the the Taj Mahal.
I'm still getting the digital Time articles although I had been cut off for awhile after a certain amount of articles.  The Washington Post has cut me off completely.  There's no way I'd send either money for a subscription.  I use to read the actual NYT paper.  Now I'll only buy it when I traveling by jet. 

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« Reply #171 on: February 24, 2020, 06:12:57 pm »

The digital version of the New York Times is just fine. Updated stories throughout the day. I clicked on your link and the second article shown was Trump and Melania's visit to the the Taj Mahal.


Funny about her: at the "biggest inauguration ever" she wore blue, I think, and looked a zillion dollars of class and style but today, in India, she wore what looked like a white jumpsuit - 'twas hard to tell - and the most terrible, unflattering, stand-out sash/belt you could imagine. Just shows you what can happen to you with prolonged exposure to the wrong influences...

Whilst T and M (the Indian M) were mutually self-congratulating, Delhi was burning with protests about the radical Hindu movement that is backing new legislation designed to disenfranchise thousands of Indian Moslems (anyone reminded of Israel here?) and the "Trump go home" placards were also out, but by the communists, this time. Did your US news services show you that? Did any of them tell you that Modi's party is the modern incarnation of the same one that spawned the guy who murdered Mahatma Gandhi?

Mr T made his speech about standing shoulder to shoulder with his new best friend - much as he described, at one time or another,  China and NK as well as France, and managed both to knock Pakistan but still not enough to screw the little remaining connection he has with it. Oh, all of this at the same time as applying trade sanctions to India amid continuing arguments.

Truth is, such visits achieve two things: for both men, they distract from domestic issues at the right time (helps having about six million Indians living in the US) and also try to cement mutual fences against old new best friend China, which has its borders uncomfortably close to India, as has Pakistan, too. But India still has its own ties with China, so following that should beome labyrinthian as things progress. Funny how a leader, inexorably leading his country from being the worlds largest non-sectarian democracy into a theocracy, can be embraced like that by the supposedly greatest free country in the world.

There is nothing as crazy as politics.
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« Reply #172 on: February 24, 2020, 07:17:18 pm »


Funny about her: at the "biggest inauguration ever" she wore blue, I think, and looked a zillion dollars of class and style but today, in India, she wore what looked like a white jumpsuit - 'twas hard to tell - and the most terrible, unflattering, stand-out sash/belt you could imagine. Just shows you what can happen to you with prolonged exposure to the wrong influences...

Whilst T and M (the Indian M) were mutually self-congratulating, Delhi was burning with protests about the radical Hindu movement that is backing new legislation designed to disenfranchise thousands of Indian Moslems (anyone reminded of Israel here?) and the "Trump go home" placards were also out, but by the communists, this time. Did your US news services show you that? Did any of them tell you that Modi's party is the modern incarnation of the same one that spawned the guy who murdered Mahatma Gandhi?

Mr T made his speech about standing shoulder to shoulder with his new best friend - much as he described, at one time or another,  China and NK as well as France, and managed both to knock Pakistan but still not enough to screw the little remaining connection he has with it. Oh, all of this at the same time as applying trade sanctions to India amid continuing arguments.

Truth is, such visits achieve two things: for both men, they distract from domestic issues at the right time (helps having about six million Indians living in the US) and also try to cement mutual fences against old new best friend China, which has its borders uncomfortably close to India, as has Pakistan, too. But India still has its own ties with China, so following that should beome labyrinthian as things progress. Funny how a leader, inexorably leading his country from being the worlds largest non-sectarian democracy into a theocracy, can be embraced like that by the supposedly greatest free country in the world.

There is nothing as crazy as politics.
Rob, you don't know what you like. Previously, you complained that Trump is an isolationist, withdrawing America into a shell.  So here he's reaching out, making friends and alliances with an important, large country who we may need as a counterpoint to an expansionist China.   Yet you, as a Brit who should know better,  complain about his actions as if American presidents haven't gone to all sorts of lands to try to make deals and alliances with nice leaders as well as contemptible ones.   Should he not have visited North Korea because Kim is a murderer?  How about Dictator for Life Xi in China? 

You also complain that America butts its nose into the internal affairs of other countries.  Yet here we are not doing that.  Like a gorgeous woman who might not be too smart, we accept the good and ignore the bad.   Well, with India, should we butt in?  Or should we ignore and try for better relations with foreigners?  You're all very confusing. 

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« Reply #173 on: February 24, 2020, 08:34:54 pm »


Like a gorgeous woman who might not be too smart, we accept the good and ignore the bad.   

Are we thinking about the same woman?
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« Reply #174 on: February 24, 2020, 08:42:07 pm »

Are we thinking about the same woman?
Let's be generous.  I was being rhetorical. 

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« Reply #175 on: February 24, 2020, 08:57:24 pm »

We'll see what happens with tomorrow's headlines in their actual newspaper.  Digital is BS.  In any case, I just looked on Google News.  Not one article about the trip to India.  So I checked Google World news.  Same.  No articles.  MAybe it will change by the time your click it. 
https://news.google.com/topics/CAAqJggKIiBDQkFTRWdvSUwyMHZNRGx1YlY4U0FtVnVHZ0pWVXlnQVAB?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Reuters just published an article describing death and injuries connected with Trump's visit.

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A policeman was killed and dozens of people injured amid clashes in New Delhi on Monday as thousands demonstrating for and against a new citizenship law rioted for several hours before U.S. President Donald Trump’s maiden visit to the city.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-citizenship-protests/one-killed-dozens-injured-in-delhi-clashes-as-trump-visits-idUSKCN20I0XE?il=0
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« Reply #177 on: February 24, 2020, 09:17:46 pm »

What's your point?

Alan, I  just responded to your post where you complain about no articles about Trump's India visit. I'm sure more articles will follow.
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« Reply #178 on: February 24, 2020, 09:21:50 pm »

Alan, I  just responded to your post where you complain about no articles about Trump's India visit. I'm sure more articles will follow.
That was a Reuters article.  The anti-Trump NY Times will wait for news that is bad for Trump.  Then they'll put it on Page 1.  Don't you know the drill yet?

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« Reply #179 on: February 24, 2020, 09:33:54 pm »

That was a Reuters article.  The anti-Trump NY Times will wait for news that is bad for Trump.  Then they'll put it on Page 1.  Don't you know the drill yet?

Usually, I read the articles in the chronological order, as they arrive to my computer. Here is one from earlier today, but there seems to be something wrong with the pictures, since Trump looks there better than Melania.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8036815/Crowds-line-greet-Donald-Melania-Trump-couple-touches-India.html
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