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Bart_van_der_Wolf

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Re: Incursions into Syria
« Reply #220 on: December 05, 2019, 01:35:14 pm »

Bart.  The Dutch are welcome to build Kurdistan.

It's too crowded. Americans, Russians, Turks, Iraki, ..., paid by their taxpayers, all after the oil reserves.
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« Reply #221 on: February 27, 2020, 10:08:43 pm »

Here's why Trump pulled American troops out.

Airstrike Hits Turkish Forces in Syria, Raising Fears of Escalation
The Turkish Army suffered mass casualties in the strike, officials said, an attack that could set off a direct conflict between Turkey and Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/world/middleeast/russia-turkey-syria-war-strikes.html

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« Reply #222 on: February 29, 2020, 10:31:25 am »

So now I understand why Europeans really wanted America to stay on the Turkish-Syrian border.  It had nothing to do with protecting the Kurds.  It had to do with preventing millions of Middle Easterners from fleeing into Europe. Well, good luck.

Erdogan Says, ‘We Opened the Doors,’ and Clashes Erupt as Migrants Head for Europe
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/world/europe/turkey-migrants-eu.html

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« Reply #223 on: February 29, 2020, 09:02:21 pm »

So now I understand why Europeans really wanted America to stay on the Turkish-Syrian border.  It had nothing to do with protecting the Kurds.  It had to do with preventing millions of Middle Easterners from fleeing into Europe. Well, good luck.

Erdogan Says, ‘We Opened the Doors,’ and Clashes Erupt as Migrants Head for Europe
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/world/europe/turkey-migrants-eu.html

Excellent photos in that New York Times article, Alan.
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« Reply #224 on: February 29, 2020, 11:09:23 pm »

Excellent photos in that New York Times article, Alan.
I appreciate the NY Times keeping up with their photo essays.  They often tell a powerful story. 

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« Reply #225 on: March 05, 2020, 08:52:53 am »

Fighting in Syria extends to the Turkish parliament.  Now this is the way we should settle political arguments.
Brawl in Turkey's parliament after MP criticises Erdogan
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/brawl-turkey-parliament-mp-criticises-erdogan-200304162054642.html

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« Reply #226 on: March 05, 2020, 09:06:19 am »

The remarkable thing is not the brawl, but the fact that a sitting MP dares to critize Erdogan.
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« Reply #227 on: March 05, 2020, 09:30:52 am »

The remarkable thing is not the brawl, but the fact that a sitting MP dares to critize Erdogan.
I'm just glad America isn't up there on the border dealing with all these maniacs.  The Turks, the Syrians,  Assad, The Kurds, the various terrorist factions, remnants if ISIS, the Russians, etc.  Who needs it?  Nothing good is going to happen up there. No one gives Trump enough credit for getting us out of there.  Frankly, the Europeans should get involved if they feel threatened by the refugees.  It's more their problem than ours.  Fortunately Trump didn't fall for the argument we're responsible to take care of the Kurds. 

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« Reply #228 on: March 05, 2020, 02:31:29 pm »

Apparently, Turkey is sending a thousand troops to that Turkish/Greek border in order to prevent the Greeks from keeping their border secure, with the migrants still within Turkey.

With little love lost between those two counties, this could erupt into a mini-war of its own.

One must sympathise with Turkey, nonetheless. It is holding millions of refugees already, and its own people are sick of it, as are the Greek islanders facing the same situation.

The brutal reality is that nobody wants these people. All those pretty international agreements, resolves and moral highgrounds are cool when there is no existing situation, but quickly vanish when reality comes streaming down the country road. As ever, it's one of those problems that requires solution where it begins: at home.

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« Reply #229 on: March 06, 2020, 05:02:32 am »

It all starts with Assad pushing its own people out of the country with the help of Russians bombers.
People flee to Turkey to save their lives and Turkey now pushes them to Europe.
In the mean time the Turkey vs Russia relations seems good.(!?)
It is a strange world, and a lot of innocent people are victim of those idiots in charge.

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« Reply #230 on: March 06, 2020, 07:51:51 am »

It all starts with Assad pushing its own people out of the country...

It all starts with pushing Assad, a legitimately elected and internationally recognized president, out of the country. 

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« Reply #231 on: March 06, 2020, 10:03:29 am »

It all starts with pushing Assad, a legitimately elected and internationally recognized president, out of the country.

You could have said that for Saddam Hussein or Colonel G. if the spirit leaving counts for the same; who pushed out Assad? I didn't know he ever left; I thought he took over from his Dad. He'll leave when Putin says so, and not a moment before.

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« Reply #232 on: March 06, 2020, 10:28:02 am »

It all starts with pushing Assad, a legitimately elected and internationally recognized president, out of the country.
No,
 it started with non violent protest of the Syrian People... looking for more political freedom and democracy.

Try inform yourself better and see this documentary. 
'For Sama' van Waad al-Kateab
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/for-sama/
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« Reply #233 on: March 06, 2020, 10:28:35 am »

You could have said that for Saddam Hussein or Colonel G...

I could have and I did. In all three cases, you have Americans to blame.

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« Reply #234 on: March 06, 2020, 10:30:53 am »

No,
 it started with non violent protest of the Syrian People...

Please.

Who do you think instigated, encouraged, and supported those protests into armed uprising?

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« Reply #235 on: March 06, 2020, 10:42:53 am »

Please.

Who do you think instigated, encouraged, and supported those protests into armed uprising?

It started nonviolent. Who do you think made it violent? Could it be Assad?
In the documentary it is claimed that of the 19 hospitals in Aleppo 19 were bombed. Only one survived - because it was no hospital, but used as such as a displacement.
The documentary is made by a young woman Aleppo reporter married with a doctor.
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« Reply #236 on: March 06, 2020, 12:00:42 pm »

Whoever started it, it's not America's fight to settle it. 

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« Reply #237 on: March 06, 2020, 02:47:32 pm »

The Kurds survive in Syria without America's involvement or blood and money.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-ceasefire-idUSKBN20T2DJ

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« Reply #238 on: March 06, 2020, 03:31:18 pm »

No,
 it started with non violent protest of the Syrian People... looking for more political freedom and democracy.

Try inform yourself better and see this documentary. 
'For Sama' van Waad al-Kateab
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/for-sama/


Vid not available here in Mallorca for copyright reasons.

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« Reply #239 on: March 06, 2020, 05:08:18 pm »


Vid not available here in Mallorca for copyright reasons.
Happens all the time.. but it was the complete movie so

Trailer here  https://youtu.be/vsvBqtg2RM0
and try a google search 'for Sama' and you get enough info..

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