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Robert-Peter Westphal

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Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« on: October 02, 2019, 04:30:49 pm »

Hello,

has anyone of you tested the new firmware 3.01 ( which seems a big step from former 2.7 ) for the Canon pro-1000 or has any information what has been changed or added.

Best wishes Robert
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 02:31:52 am »

The official changelog is so informative that we can forgive them the spelling error :)

[Ver.2.5]
- Verious new functions are supported.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 03:43:05 am »

I found the first new feature!
Increased length printing limit to 47,24 inches - 120 cm!!!!!!
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 04:32:30 am »

Second new feature:

The number of paper media types which can be registered to the printer is increased from 25 to 35.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2019, 07:31:37 am »

The official changelog is so informative that we can forgive them the spelling error :)

[Ver.2.5]
- Verious new functions are supported.

Is there a weblink for this?  When I Google the new firmware 3.01, I cannot find anything.  There is also nothing on the Canon Pro-1000 website that describes what's new.  Glad to see that one can use larger sheets of paper as this now makes panos a real possibility.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 08:22:33 am »

Is there a weblink for this?  When I Google the new firmware 3.01, I cannot find anything.  There is also nothing on the Canon Pro-1000 website that describes what's new.  Glad to see that one can use larger sheets of paper as this now makes panos a real possibility.

Alan,

here is the link:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/professional-large-format-printers/professional-inkjet-printers/imageprograf-pro-1000?subtab=downloads-firmware

"Select" the 2.5 firmware update and then go to "Driver/Software Details --> History (scroll down)".
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 09:20:32 am »

Useful addons with print length and number of custom papers.

Also, new drivers are out.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2019, 10:01:01 am »

Alan,

here is the link:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/professional-large-format-printers/professional-inkjet-printers/imageprograf-pro-1000?subtab=downloads-firmware

"Select" the 2.5 firmware update and then go to "Driver/Software Details --> History (scroll down)".
Thanks!!!  Have you updated your printer???
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 10:11:58 am »

Thanks!!!  Have you updated your printer???

Yes. That is how I found the additions. I installed the firmware and the latest drivers v. 1.10.

There is also a new I think media/paper type. It's called "Photo Paper Pro Crystal Grade". Maybe there is an upcoming new Canon paper.

EDIT: and a "Baryta Photo Paper".
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2019, 10:07:25 am »

I normally use my printer via USB.

To update the firmware I enabled LAN and hooked it up, to update the firmware directly from the printer menu interface (no software used). That worked as I've tried before.

I disabled the LAN again after that.

Now I tried to print today (haven't tried since update), and the printer is no longer seen via USB connection. Have tried two Macs, no luck. Restart, reinstall of printer driver etc. It is not seen anymore by any computer connected to it via USB.

Can USB somewhere be disabled in the printer, that I'm not aware of?

Any ideas?

Edit: Works with LAN, but USB is dead. Can anyone confirm if their USB went dead as well after firmware update?
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2019, 10:00:44 pm »

https://www.canon-europe.com/pro/news/pro-1000-firmware-update/

The new baryta media type option sounds interesting. Requires new profiling it seems, but will give it a go. Anyone done experiments with this yet and noticed an improvement? Would be nice with more details on the change.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2019, 02:01:28 am »

https://www.canon-europe.com/pro/news/pro-1000-firmware-update/

The new baryta media type option sounds interesting. Requires new profiling it seems, but will give it a go. Anyone done experiments with this yet and noticed an improvement? Would be nice with more details on the change.

I tested the "Baryta" media setting against "Pro Platinum" media setting on Canson Baryta Photographique 310 in BW mode with CO overall. The "less bronzing" claim is valid. Noticeable less bronzing. I cannot tell about the deeper reds and greens. I will have to reprofile all the papers with the "Baryta" setting first which is something I cannot do right now.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2019, 07:30:30 am »

I tested the "Baryta" media setting against "Pro Platinum" media setting on Canson Baryta Photographique 310 in BW mode with CO overall. The "less bronzing" claim is valid. Noticeable less bronzing. I cannot tell about the deeper reds and greens. I will have to reprofile all the papers with the "Baryta" setting first which is something I cannot do right now.
It would be nice if Canon would tell us whether the amount of ink or chroma (or both) is increased when using the new Baryta setting.  The gloss paper I mostly print on is Moab Juniper Rag, a non-baryta paper so I don't think this new setting will have any advantage for me.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2019, 11:50:37 am »

Good info!

I haven't upgraded yet so a perfect opportunity for an apples to apples test of Baryta paper. I have some lustre baryta and will test gamut changes as well as look for bronzing/gloss differential changes. Should be interesting.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2019, 06:24:50 pm »

I tested the "Baryta" media setting against "Pro Platinum" media setting on Canson Baryta Photographique 310 in BW mode with CO overall. The "less bronzing" claim is valid. Noticeable less bronzing. I cannot tell about the deeper reds and greens. I will have to reprofile all the papers with the "Baryta" setting first which is something I cannot do right now.

Does BW more work differently than regular color mode when printing BW images? I mean, does the printer/driver mix gray tones differently, like not using (or reducing) the amount of colored inks and staying with black and the two gray inks. Just wondering what advantage bw mode has.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2019, 11:18:04 pm »

Does BW more work differently than regular color mode when printing BW images? I mean, does the printer/driver mix gray tones differently, like not using (or reducing) the amount of colored inks and staying with black and the two gray inks. Just wondering what advantage bw mode has.

Yes, B&W uses significantly less CYM inks since color isn't required. With color printing a mix of CYM as well as black/gray inks are used so that colors can be smoothly transitioned. B&W prints have less variation as a result and, usually, better lifetime.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2019, 12:46:37 am »

It would be nice if Canon would tell us whether the amount of ink or chroma (or both) is increased when using the new Baryta setting.  The gloss paper I mostly print on is Moab Juniper Rag, a non-baryta paper so I don't think this new setting will have any advantage for me.

There is distinctly less gloss differential in the few areas it previously showed using Finestra Fine Art Natural 300gsm Bartya with the new Baryta setting. I haven't yet checked impact on gamut size. Waiting for it to dry.

There is a significant shift in colors between the Plat Pro setting and Baryta setting at "highest" with average dE76 diff of 4.  Gamut is almost identical except for low L* violets where the Baryta shows a bit more saturation. Virtually identical gamut edges otherwise. Same Black point at 2.5.  So you will need to profile the papers.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2019, 03:14:45 am »

Does BW more work differently than regular color mode when printing BW images? I mean, does the printer/driver mix gray tones differently, like not using (or reducing) the amount of colored inks and staying with black and the two gray inks. Just wondering what advantage bw mode has.

Doug answered the question. I didn't know. I choose BW mode for the comparison because I didn't have an icc profile based on the Baryta media setting and because bronzing is better examined on a BW image.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2019, 09:15:14 am »

Yes, B&W uses significantly less CYM inks since color isn't required. With color printing a mix of CYM as well as black/gray inks are used so that colors can be smoothly transitioned. B&W prints have less variation as a result and, usually, better lifetime.
I had some spare letter size Moab Somerset Museum Rag and printed one of my B/W images using the traditional color managed approach with LR using an ICC profile that has a 51 step B/W patch set and the Canon B/W setting.  Visual examination of the prints showed no difference.  It's likely that larger images may show differences and one would also need to print out B/W patch sets to see what the deviation is to confirm this.  My only previous experience was with an Epson 3880 and it was clear from the work of others that less colored ink was used in the ABW mode of that printer.  I did tests that showed a marginally better black point when using the ABW mode and generated profiles using Roy Harrington's tool that enabled me to print and soft proof in LR.  The soft proof feature only works in Wnidows as Apple changed things about five years ago that eliminated that option in MacOS.

It's not clear to me that the approach I used with the Epson printer will work with the Pro-1000 and LR.  Doug has another thread on a work around when printing from PS as well as an approach for creating B/W profiles.

In his printer reviews Mark Segal did some research on printing B/W images via both approaches on newer Epson printers and does not bother with the ABW mode as he saw no visual differences.
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Re: Canon pro-1000 new firmware 3.01 and tools
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2019, 01:08:24 am »

I had some spare letter size Moab Somerset Museum Rag and printed one of my B/W images using the traditional color managed approach with LR using an ICC profile that has a 51 step B/W patch set and the Canon B/W setting.  Visual examination of the prints showed no difference.  It's likely that larger images may show differences and one would also need to print out B/W patch sets to see what the deviation is to confirm this.  My only previous experience was with an Epson 3880 and it was clear from the work of others that less colored ink was used in the ABW mode of that printer.  I did tests that showed a marginally better black point when using the ABW mode and generated profiles using Roy Harrington's tool that enabled me to print and soft proof in LR.  The soft proof feature only works in Wnidows as Apple changed things about five years ago that eliminated that option in MacOS.

It's not clear to me that the approach I used with the Epson printer will work with the Pro-1000 and LR.  Doug has another thread on a work around when printing from PS as well as an approach for creating B/W profiles.

In his printer reviews Mark Segal did some research on printing B/W images via both approaches on newer Epson printers and does not bother with the ABW mode as he saw no visual differences.

I agree with Mark Segal too. While there are more variations in color mode than B&W mode, they are well under visual threshold with the possible exception of large prints that also have large, very dark, areas. You can see differences between, say L*2.5 and 3.0 with enough light. This is because even though only a tiny fraction of light is reflected, the L*=3 reflects 20% more light than the L*2.5. But to see it you would have to provide enough illumination and block out any specular reflections from the gloss.  This can be fun to do with a bright flashlight carefully positioned but it's rarely an issue normally.

That said, B&W mode should provide somewhat longer print life but these days that's not much of an issue either with color pigment printing typically having decent life.
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