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Peter McLennan

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #900 on: November 03, 2019, 12:31:24 pm »

First off, coal is profitable.

WAS profitable.  Like buggy whips. 

Coal is failing because natural gas and, wait for it,

renewables

are cheaper.

We're still off topic.  This is supposed to be about impeaching Trump.
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Peter McLennan

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« Reply #901 on: November 03, 2019, 12:32:50 pm »

No. It was better when he was getting a life.

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« Reply #902 on: November 03, 2019, 12:32:55 pm »

First off, coal is profitable.
That's why mines are shutting down and coal miners are losing their jobs. Because coal is so profitable.
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Alan Klein

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« Reply #903 on: November 03, 2019, 12:33:42 pm »

So, Trump's phone call to Ukraine is none of those?  You approve of what he (apparently) did?
At worse, it's political shenanigans, and not impeachable.  All politicians play political games.  It's called politics.  However, in this case there is a nexus for investigating Biden as part of general Ukrainian corruption we wanted Ukraine to solve, including the last Obama administration.  That's perfectly legal.  We went over this before I went on a break.  We're just repeating again. 

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« Reply #904 on: November 03, 2019, 12:34:38 pm »

Your memory is fading, jeremyrh.  Alan isn't in favour of government taking sides with industry, remember?  They shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers.

He maintains that "all markets are free", IIRC

Yes - it's almost as though he just invents stuff on the spur of moment to support whatever delusion has seized him last.
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« Reply #905 on: November 03, 2019, 12:35:11 pm »

That's why mines are shutting down and coal miners are losing their jobs. Because coal is so profitable.

Just keep hating on coal miners.  I like that.  So does Trump.  I hope you're advising the Democrats. 

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« Reply #906 on: November 03, 2019, 12:36:13 pm »

At worse, it's political shenanigans, and not impeachable. 

Err, no, it's abuse of his power for personal gain, and eminently impeachable. As may well be seen in the near future.
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« Reply #907 on: November 03, 2019, 12:37:15 pm »

No. It was better when he was getting a life.

True, there weren't so many empty speech boxes on the topic.

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« Reply #908 on: November 03, 2019, 12:37:35 pm »

Just keep hating on coal miners.  I like that.  So does Trump.  I hope you're advising the Democrats.

Nobody is hating on coal miners. Or buggy whip drivers.
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« Reply #909 on: November 03, 2019, 12:38:34 pm »

Nobody is hating on coal miners. Or buggy whip drivers.

Fine.  Just keep saying what you're saying.  Good for Trump.  Thank you for your help. 

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« Reply #910 on: November 03, 2019, 12:41:18 pm »

Nobody is hating on coal miners. Or buggy whip drivers.

Were you perchance expecting a sweet, logical flow of reason? Wait until film vs. digital is brought in; you know, to keep the topic on track.

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« Reply #911 on: November 03, 2019, 12:42:45 pm »

Fine.  Just keep saying what you're saying.  Good for Trump.  Thank you for your help.

Time for another little rest, Alan - I think you'll find that American coal miners are not paying that much attention to a mediocre photographer in west London.
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Peter McLennan

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« Reply #912 on: November 03, 2019, 12:48:45 pm »

It's a good thing Canada's fossil fuel industry isn't dead, yet.  Otherwise I couldn't have made this image in the Canadian Rockies a couple of weeks ago. ie ALBERTA!  :)

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« Reply #913 on: November 03, 2019, 12:50:58 pm »

First off, coal is profitable.  It's cheaper than many other fuels.   However, the previous government has intervened by making it harder for coal to compete even though 30% of our electricity is made with coal.  So Trump has reversed some government regulations that Obama imposed unilaterally.  It's not subsidizing coal as far as I know otherwise.    I don;t believe in subsidies.

So is marijuana. With the global warming trend, it might be more profitable to start growing weed than mining coal.

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10 U.S. states have now legalized the recreational use of marijuana while another 34 have given it the green light for medicinal use. That has resulted in a noticeable boost in the American job market and it's estimated that 211,000 people are now directly employed in the industry full time. Counting indirect and induced jobs depending on legal marijuana, that number rises to 296,000. By comparison, the U.S. has 69,000 brewing workers while 52,000 people are employed in coal mining jobs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/03/22/where-marijuana-jobs-are-booming-across-the-u-s-infographic/#345f9e47df6d
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« Reply #914 on: November 03, 2019, 12:59:33 pm »

So, Trump's phone call to Ukraine is none of those?  You approve of what he (apparently) did?

Yes.

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« Reply #915 on: November 03, 2019, 12:59:53 pm »

In UK, the fracking has been recently banned because of the danger of earthquakes. No wonder, if you shake something or somebody, violent reactions can follow. Including gas release.

Finally a post relevant to the Trump impeachment inquiry.  This was a comment about Trump's latest Twitter rants about the "witch hunt," was it not?

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« Reply #916 on: November 03, 2019, 01:12:08 pm »

Yes.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how corruption is born.
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« Reply #917 on: November 03, 2019, 01:16:02 pm »

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how corruption is born.

What corruption?

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« Reply #918 on: November 03, 2019, 01:18:23 pm »

First off, coal is profitable.  It's cheaper than many other fuels.   However, the previous government has intervened by making it harder for coal to compete even though 30% of our electricity is made with coal.  So Trump has reversed some government regulations that Obama imposed unilaterally.  It's not subsidizing coal as far as I know otherwise.    I don;t believe in subsidies.
Why are all the coal companies going bankrupt?  How has Trump's plan helped save coal mining jobs.  According to all the data I've seen jobs in this industry continue to decline.
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« Reply #919 on: November 03, 2019, 01:24:00 pm »

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how corruption is born.
Quite right and one wonders what else there is behind all these claims for executive privilege.  There is also the very real case of the President's own lawyer, Mr. Giuliani and his various foreign policy escapades.
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