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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #760 on: October 28, 2019, 08:31:54 pm »

Doesn't anyone who opposes Trump here have anything positive to say about him regarding al Baghdadi?  What would you want him to do that you would actually praise him?  Would your fingers fall off your hand if you typed something positive about him?

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #761 on: October 28, 2019, 09:05:38 pm »

Trump, The Leaker-in-Chief, just leaked the identity of the key agent participating in the raid:

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« Reply #762 on: October 28, 2019, 09:22:24 pm »

My men's club visited Mcguire Air Force Base here in New Jersey a few months ago.  Beside airmen giving us a tour of the C17 and base fire brigade company, they ran us threw their dog training area explaining all the procedures they use.  We then got a demo of how dogs bring down "villains".  Of course most of those would be drug people here in the states. But of course, overseas, the dogs are used for other things.  They don't know a drug pusher from a terrorist or care.  They seem to enjoy biting people in general and aren't particular about which one.  :) 

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« Reply #763 on: October 28, 2019, 09:26:42 pm »

Doesn't anyone who opposes Trump here have anything positive to say about him regarding al Baghdadi?  What would you want him to do that you would actually praise him?  Would your fingers fall off your hand if you typed something positive about him?

We don't have enough information how the mission unfolded and what was Trump's involvement. But as shown in another Coffee Corner thread, NYT and Times Of Israel stated that the operation was successful despite Trump, not thanks to him. And that's very positive.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #764 on: October 28, 2019, 09:29:59 pm »

My men's club visited Mcguire Air Force Base here in New Jersey a few months ago.  Beside airmen giving us a tour of the C17 and base fire brigade company, they ran us threw their dog training area explaining all the procedures they use.  We then got a demo of how dogs bring down "villains".  Of course most of those would be drug people here in the states. But of course, overseas, the dogs are used for other things.  They don't know a drug pusher from a terrorist or care.  They seem to enjoy biting people in general and aren't particular about which one.  :)

Nice dog, but it seems slightly overweight. Same as Baghdadi.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #765 on: October 28, 2019, 09:35:03 pm »

We don't have enough information how the mission unfolded and what was Trump's involvement. But as shown in another Coffee Corner thread, NYT and Times Of Israel stated that the operation was successful despite Trump, not thanks to him. And that's very positive.
That's just another hit on Trump, Les.  Obama did nothing more than Trump but got high praises for weeks about his "courage" on ordering the raid which eliminated Bin Laden.  Had it failed, Obama would have been blasted as Democrat President Carter was when his raid to rescue American hostages in Iran failed.  He lost his re-election bid because of it.  So would have Trump been lambasted if he had failed.  Yet you read and mimic the anti-Trump press and refuse to give him any credit. 

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« Reply #766 on: October 28, 2019, 09:42:38 pm »

I didn't think it was Obama's achievement. Main thing I remember from that mission is that Hillary Clinton couldn't control herself in the war room.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #767 on: October 28, 2019, 11:11:34 pm »

To fight off another recession, I see the Federal Reserve Bank is lowering interest rates twice and will again for the third time before the end of the month. Meanwhile, they're again printing $60 billion a month to support bonds and debt.  At the top of the 2008 crisis they were printing $85 billion a month.  So we're back into Qualitative Easing, printing cash.  Our debt is massive; so is our deficit.  So despite the fact the economy looks so good, the Fed thinks otherwise.  If it pops, or should I say when, impeachment will be a secondary concern.  Trump will never get re-elected because a pop this time will make 2008 look like child's play.  And the whole world will be impacted as well. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #768 on: October 28, 2019, 11:19:23 pm »

My, my... TDS in full display.

[Trump Derangement Syndrome -- I had to look it up.]

I won't argue that; I even agree with it. I covered politics as a reporter for quite a long time, for major metro newspapers; and I majored in American Studies in college, which was a combination of American history, political science and literature. I served in the Army, as did my father and both of my uncles (in World War II.) I love this country. It's the greatest country that's ever been. I loathe Trump, I really do. He's the most destructive influence we've ever seen in this nation. He is immoral, ignorant, personally vicious, suffers from a severe mental disorder, and refuses even the basic sort of education necessary to run this country. He is doing great damage to it, and encouraging the very worst of it -- racism, white nationalism, political corruption on an unprecedented scale.

For me, he's also quite an interesting case study. That's why I say he's a fascist -- because it fits. If instead of a wise-ass reply to this, go out to wiki or some other source, and see what fascism means, and understand that it was quite a popular political position in Europe, part of South America, and Japan, for quite a long time. And then look what it led to. In every case.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #769 on: October 28, 2019, 11:38:01 pm »

[Trump Derangement Syndrome -- I had to look it up.]

I won't argue that; I even agree with it. I covered politics as a reporter for quite a long time, for major metro newspapers; and I majored in American Studies in college, which was a combination of American history, political science and literature. I served in the Army, as did my father and both of my uncles (in World War II.) I love this country. It's the greatest country that's ever been. I loathe Trump, I really do. He's the most destructive influence we've ever seen in this nation. He is immoral, ignorant, personally vicious, suffers from a severe mental disorder, and refuses even the basic sort of education necessary to run this country. He is doing great damage to it, and encouraging the very worst of it -- racism, white nationalism, political corruption on an unprecedented scale.

For me, he's also quite an interesting case study. That's why I say he's a fascist -- because it fits. If instead of a wise-ass reply to this, go out to wiki or some other source, and see what fascism means, and understand that it was quite a popular political position in Europe, part of South America, and Japan, for quite a long time. And then look what it led to. In every case.
John to compare Trump to let's say Spanish Fascism under Franco is a bridge too far.  Trump is a loudmouth, true.  A bull in a china shop.  All right. Course, rough.  OK.  But, his bark is louder than his bite.  The Constitution and federal courts control all presidents including this one.  Franco made war on his people and was a dictator who killed his countrymen.  To compare Trump to that is, well, TDS.   You're just being hyperbolic like all the other anti-Trump people here. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #770 on: October 28, 2019, 11:58:07 pm »

... If instead of a wise-ass reply to this, go out to wiki or some other source, and see what fascism means...

You think I need Wikipedia to know what fascism is? Or any other subject under discussion here?

Since you stated your credentials, I will state mine. My father was in a fascist concentration camp. My people fought fascism. I lived, worked, or visited 38 countries. I lived in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and the USA. I speak five languages. I am a trained economist and hold an MBA degree from the #1 business school in the world (Booth). I worked for four major US multinationals, here and abroad. I think I can discuss politics and fascism without resorting to Wikipedia. I see no fascism here. I see no racism in his actions or words, or in the broader environment, for that matter. I see no damage to the country, just perhaps someone's sensitive feelings hurt, causing a TDS. The only real threat to this country is the slow, steady advance of socialism. The only thing I might agree with you is his personality (short of "severe mental disorder"). He is a New Yorker. Spoiled, jerkish billionaire. Enough said. But people knew it well before voting for him. People did not vote for his charming personality, but for his policy proposals.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #771 on: October 29, 2019, 12:20:54 am »

Doesn't anyone who opposes Trump here have anything positive to say about him regarding al Baghdadi?  What would you want him to do that you would actually praise him?  Would your fingers fall off your hand if you typed something positive about him?

Yes. I am not sure what Trump had to do with it (nor what Obama had to do with Bin Laden btw), but the special forces who were able to take him down must certainly be praised.

Now, the whole thing is complicated by the fact that al Baghdadi is an indirect, but obvious, consequence of previous GOP action in the region though. Had Irak not been attacked on false premises spread by Bush and the Republican falcons, IS would never have reached the level of influence that created the need to take down al Baghdadi.

Do we congratulate our kids when they fix the mess they created? Probably, but certainly not as much as Trump congratulated himself during his 50 mins speech.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #772 on: October 29, 2019, 08:06:28 am »

Doesn't anyone who opposes Trump here have anything positive to say about him regarding al Baghdadi?  What would you want him to do that you would actually praise him?  Would your fingers fall off your hand if you typed something positive about him?
LOL, as if he had much to do with this other than giving the go ahead.  Reports coming out yesterday pointed out that his military withdrawal forced them to accelerate the timetable.  Shouldn't the military and intelligence groups be praised much more than the President?  I found it curious that in his praise of those who had ancillary roles, the Syrian Kurds who provided most of the key intelligence were listed last.  Of course this also had to be the 'greatest' assassination of a terrorist even though the Caliphate never posed any threat to the US unlike bin Laden's group who murdered several thousand Americans.  Good that the President got in yet another dig at Obama for not doing more against Gaghdadi!! 

President Trump is the greatest; at least that's what his press secretary, Stephanie Grisham said the other day referring to "...the genius of our great president..."  I guess this must be true and I salute you Mr. President for your genius in taking down the evil leader of the Caliphate for without you this would all not be possible.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #773 on: October 29, 2019, 08:14:35 am »

I speak five languages. I am a trained economist and hold an MBA degree from the #1 business school in the world (Booth).
According to whose metric?  A quick Google search shows a variety of rankings with several #1 business schools both in the the US and abroad.  There are lots of people who graduate from #1 colleges/universities and that means very little.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #774 on: October 29, 2019, 09:24:09 am »

According to whose metric?  A quick Google search shows..

This:

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« Reply #775 on: October 29, 2019, 10:19:22 am »

This:
Yes, you can validate anything on the Internet.  The US News rating is from 2018.  US News now has it tied for 3rd behind Wharton and Stanford.  In the end it really doesn't matter at all what the ratings mean, it is what the graduate does with the degree that matters.  In the good old days when I was growing up we didn't have college/university rankings; perhaps we were better off.  We always told our daughters that they could go to what ever school they wanted.  They chose wisely and have fulfilling careers helping at risk children.  That's what it's all about.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #776 on: October 29, 2019, 10:46:40 am »

Turns out, Trump was, once again, totally wrong. Once again, betting on the wrong horse (errr... dog). Not such a hero, after all:

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-uncovers-evidence-hero-dog-sniffed-butts?fbclid=IwAR0zucm3faFUyDOJdT555E4TvtapxxHvbwl8o5s0lqoB_JyFvYlF7drd5ss

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #777 on: October 29, 2019, 11:03:35 am »

Doesn't anyone who opposes Trump here have anything positive to say about him regarding al Baghdadi?  What would you want him to do that you would actually praise him?  Would your fingers fall off your hand if you typed something positive about him?

Trump had nothing to do with al-Baghdadi except perhaps for okaying the mission--just like Obama/bin Ladin. But Obama never took any credit while here's the Bone Spur Boy prancing around patting himself on the back. And Trump's moronic decision to pull US troops out and leave the Kurds hanging by their testicles came very close to scuttling the entire al-Baghdadi mission. And Trump has been spouting classified information about the mission to the press. And military sources involved in the operation say that some of Trump's statements about the operation are false.

You want me to praise Trump? Have him resign. It will finally be something good for the country.
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« Reply #778 on: October 29, 2019, 11:08:43 am »

Turns out, Trump was, once again, totally wrong. Once again, betting on the wrong horse (errr... dog). Not such a hero, after all:

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-uncovers-evidence-hero-dog-sniffed-butts?fbclid=IwAR0zucm3faFUyDOJdT555E4TvtapxxHvbwl8o5s0lqoB_JyFvYlF7drd5ss

That's great.  Love this, "He was always sniffing any butt he could find. Cats, dogs, humans, you name it. He didn't have a preference. He identified as pansniffual."

Pansniffual   ;D
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #779 on: October 29, 2019, 11:10:19 am »

Trump had nothing to do with al-Baghdadi except perhaps for okaying the mission--just like Obama/bin Ladin. But Obama never took any credit while here's the Bone Spur Boy prancing around patting himself on the back. And Trump's moronic decision to pull US troops out and leave the Kurds hanging by their testicles came very close to scuttling the entire al-Baghdadi mission. And Trump has been spouting classified information about the mission to the press. And military sources involved in the operation say that some of Trump's statements about the operation are false.

You want me to praise Trump? Have him resign. It will finally be something good for the country.

What?  ???

I seem to remember Obama touting this on his re-election campaign, "Osama is dead and Detroit is alive," along with other variants said plenty of times in 2012. 

Insofar as the Kurds, there is no way that we could meddle with the Kurds, Turkey, Syria and Russia without pissing someone off to the point of making a new enemy. 
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